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Joe Jr

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Backlash Videos
« on: May 08, 2010, 10:23:24 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr5z3m9rLyI

Hammer sure stepped up their game with this video.
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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2010, 03:50:46 PM »
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was that filmed in Hopkinsville, KY?

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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2010, 08:57:03 PM »
yes

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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2010, 09:02:47 PM »
only a chick can have low revs
it seems from the vid
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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2010, 09:38:25 PM »
It's hilarious people with NO TYPE OF SOFTWARE to track such stats such as speed and revrate are questioning the guys at a center with THE MOST technologically advanced software and tracking tools.  What would they have to gain by saying someone had a revrate around 290 and it was really 375.  They're not selling you someone's revrate, they're selling the ball.  

If they wanted to really sell you the ball as "something sick" they'd throw all the shots on a light volume high friction walled up THS from left of 18 out to the ditch and back in every video.  Opps, that's a buddies/videoballreviews video.  But no one says anything about those videos skewing reality.

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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2010, 09:46:20 PM »
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Agree completely. It's horrible that Ebonite/Hammer thinks league bowlers won't notice....shows what they think of our knowledge.

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Whose revrates were false?
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All of them except the woman in my opinion.  My guess is that the first two guys are 325-350 (not 450/435), the third guy is around 450, not 595, and the last guy is around 400, not 587.
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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2010, 09:57:02 PM »
I've had my rev rate measured twice.  Once with CATS at Kegels and once with national coach Ron Clifton's software (don't remember what it is).  I know what my release looks like and what my ball looks like off my hand.  My normal release is right at 300 and neither of the first two guys hit it much harder than I do.  Ron's "crash test dummy" Andy is 400-450, so that's another number I see every week.  Obviously I'm guessing, but I still think something is wrong with the numbers they give.  They obviously don't have anything to gain by lying, but I just don't see Jeremy's rev rate to be in the same category as Robert Smith's.  The balls look good in all of their hands and it's a good video, but I'm still not a believer in their rev rate numbers.

There have been some TV matches (both men and women) where they gave some really bad numbers as well should I believe them also?  I'm trying to remember specifics, but not having much luck.  Didn't they give Carolyn Dorin Ballard's as 350?  One of the early telecasts at the WSOB they had a few guys with drastically different rates, but they told us they were very close.
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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2010, 03:08:06 AM »
wasn''t the point of this topic supposed to be about the ball...?
not to be a d*ck or anything to anyone but really now. its just like the people saying "oh my ball is dead". you sure its not the bowler? operator error sure does play a big role in this game... who cares if this guy has a higher rev rate than you? you''re the one throwing the ball and can carry just as well (well i would hope), so whats the big deal!? i believe only 2-3 replies to this topic were about the ball...

just keepin it real..

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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 07:27:16 PM »
Revrates are legit in my eyes, Hunt and Flunder absolutely rip the logos off the ball. I have seen both in person and they are every bit of 550+ rpms.
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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2010, 06:25:43 AM »
its great to have a video with sooo many different types of releases to get a better idea about the ball! great job hammer!
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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2010, 07:51:11 AM »
A very good informative vid.  Jeremy, curious as to what type of layout Flunder had on his balls.

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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2010, 08:08:51 AM »
Hi everyone,

Thanks for the feedback on the videos.  We tried really hard to give everyone a lot of different players, styles, and ball motions to look at.  Do you have a suggestion for us?  If so, feel free to send them over to jussery@hammerbowling.com.  Thanks!
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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2010, 05:05:39 PM »
Wha was he oil pattern bowled on.  i may have missed it.  I really have a hard time getting a ball not to over hook on short dry pattern..  everyone talks me out of buying a urethane.  I am hopping one of these will fit the bill.


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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2010, 05:22:08 PM »
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Revrates are legit in my eyes, Hunt and Flunder absolutely rip the logos off the ball. I have seen both in person and they are every bit of 550+ rpms.
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I've crossed with Jeremy at a PBA Midwest Regional and can say he most definitely revs it up.

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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2010, 10:39:05 AM »
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Wha was he oil pattern bowled on.  i may have missed it.  I really have a hard time getting a ball not to over hook on short dry pattern..  everyone talks me out of buying a urethane.  I am hopping one of these will fit the bill.


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Re: Backlash Videos
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2010, 10:45:23 AM »
Really liked the variety of different players. Wish i could have seen the layouts thought.

And a 450rpm Stroker? hahahahahahahahah. Yeah okay. Last time i checked anything over 375 is a cranker.
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