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OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« on: May 11, 2007, 05:22:12 PM »
Buddies is all sold out and not even listing them anymore. Bowling ball.Com only has 14#. Allstarbowling has 3 on Ebay.

I bought one Pain brand new, drilled it with the pin to the right of ring and cg stacked. The ball was a bit flakey, unpredictable. Then I bought a used one with the pin above and slightly to the right of ring w/ cg just right of midline. This one's a monster! It has the same heavy rolling characteristics of my No Mercy but with an arc that is continuous. It has a very tweakable coverstock that performs well from sanded to polished. It also is the best ball I have ever had to combat carry down and only one of a few that I seem to be able to use all night with incremental adjustments.

I'm in a panic as I always thought of getting another and did not envision Hammer discontinuing them so soon. I'm sure other sites still have them but they appear to be selling out fast.

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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2007, 02:28:32 AM »
I'm really not sure why the Pain was discontinued...unless they plan on releasing something else at Bowl Expo...the Pain sold like hotcakes around our parts here in Indiana-er...I would like to pick up one myself personally....but the way Hammer has been releasing home runs...I'll wait and see what they have next on their plate
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2007, 11:36:27 AM »
I believe it's been stated in one of the other threads that it was partially (or completely) because it was outselling the higher end balls.
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2007, 12:15:25 PM »
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I believe it's been stated in one of the other threads that it was partially (or completely) because it was outselling the higher end balls.
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Someone has the wrong stats, if this ball was selling more than the BW or NM.  Sorry.
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2007, 09:09:45 PM »
There will be another Raw Hammer that is supposedly a bit stronger and more on the back than the Pain.
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 01:36:54 PM »
anotherwindup, with you being on amateur stff, you may be more privy to info.  Just reporting what I saw:
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=159141&ForumID=73&CategoryID=2

 
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The way it was explained to me, the Pain was doing fine in sales. Actually, it was doing too well, outselling the top line Hammer balls. Since the Pain is a mid-priced ball, they were losing money in the sense that the top line ball sales couldn't compete with it.

It'll probably show up some time in the future with a new name and a higher price tag.




Actually, you have a post in there right after his statement of the above.
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2007, 01:57:46 PM »
Considering the Juiced reactive cover was only on one other ball in the US, it makes sense to discontinue it in favor of another ball/new cover. CT Reactive in only on one US ball; I would expect the Blue Vibe to go away by next season, too.
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 02:02:45 PM »
It certainly may have been outselling the Hawg line, however.


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I believe it's been stated in one of the other threads that it was partially (or completely) because it was outselling the higher end balls.
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BR.com.....going down the toilet one nugget at a time!!  

g thing is back....with a vengeance!!  



Someone has the wrong stats, if this ball was selling more than the BW or NM.  Sorry.
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 02:06:16 PM »
Does anyone have any info on the ball that is going to be replacing the pain, the anger?  I posted a thread about it, but no one has said anything yet.
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2007, 02:11:01 PM »
Those who talk, don't know, those who know don't talk.  
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Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Salnicker with the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got a, an informal report, that a member of your team, uh, Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true of course, it contravenes a number of the league's by-laws, and article 27 of the league...

I invented America.

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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2007, 10:51:05 AM »
Not giving the Raw Pain one more season is VERY disappointing. I sold 28 Pains this past season and expected to sell MANY more. This ball really helped boost my overall pro shop sales as I was able to feed off this ball and compliment it with the Doom or the Toxic. Of the 28 sold, only ONE person wasn't THRILLED with it. (After a surface change, he was very happy.) One award score after another was rolled with this ball....I hope Hammer releases something else with this core. The Doom was awesome as well, but much more condition specific. The Hawg line should be discontinued, IMHO.

BTW, I sold 28 Pains and 18 Toxics in 2006...great 2 ball combo. Compared to 1 No Mercy (mine - very inconsistent on local conditions for most) and 6 Widows (2 mine - big rev guys loved it).

... overall, Hammer equipment resulted in exactly 66.6% of my total sales due mainly to the quality of the Pain cover/core match. No other ball in the Hammer line provided the Pain's overall sales versatility!  

Doesn't having a ball that sells and performs THIS well draw attention and sales to other balls in the company's current sales line? Plus, many people bought more than one Pain and used different layouts and cover preparations.

I think the last ball to have this big an impact on the local scene and then disappear as quickly was the phased Track Heat. (The original Inferno stuck around awhile.) Did Track ever recovered from this?

Are you reading, Mr. Graham?  

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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2007, 11:54:28 AM »
Kegler - you could pass that info on to BG through Hammer's website.  

I am happy that the PAIN was a solid performer/seller for you.    

But, for me, I saw all of 2 PAIN's hit the lane in all of 2006/2007 bowling season.  I bowl in Central IL, in 2 different cities, and I saw 2. (one was mine)

So, obviously, the ball had mixed reviews.
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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2007, 01:55:55 PM »
Anotherwindup, I understand your point. Not all pro shops "push" the same equipment, the same way not all lane condition environments are the same across the country.

In 2003, when I lived in Chicago, I worked out of a well known (Star) pro shop there. I noticed right away that conditions were much different there compared to this part (eastern Pa) of the country. When I first moved there and took my arsenal with me, not one single ball gave me a good look on the lanes at Poplar Creek Bowl where I bowled league. Then when I moved back here, not one single ball I drilled for the conditions there worked here, either!!!

We are cursed here with mainly huge top hat lane conditions!!

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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2007, 02:17:36 PM »
the majority of shots here are x-mas trees that are light.  therefore, the PAIN is a bad choice.  

The majority of my league arsenal consists of VIBE's.  That should give you an indication of what I see most.  


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Re: OH MY GOD...THE PAIN IS REALLY GONE!!!
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2007, 10:58:43 PM »
I agree. The ball that made me the most money out there was the Threat, so I can understand your point.

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