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Title: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on January 01, 2015, 03:15:12 AM
I see that the Cold Blood is going on sale or on closeout multiple places. Does that mean a replacement for it will be coming soon? If so, is the same going to be happening to the First Blood?

Not trying to start rumors, just trying to see if any information is out there.  ;D
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: SVstar34 on January 01, 2015, 12:16:20 PM
The Cold Blood didn't seem to do as well, I have one and it has just been more condition specific for me. I think that is also partially because I went with a smoother layout and it is naturally providing a smoother motion. The cover seems to be too strong at times, but when polished up mine doesn't have enough to make it back. Again I believe that's because of the layout I chose. Really no room to miss for me, if I do a little bit it's hello 10 pin.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Blood series gone and something new coming in
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on January 01, 2015, 06:32:34 PM
I had some extra cash after purchasing my Ball Spinner and decided that purchasing a new ball isn't too far out there and the fact that I've been on the edge about getting a Cold Blood. Then I went to the Pro Shop and they didn't have any in stock. I went online and it's discounted so I was like is it getting replaced? Should I just wait it out and see what 2015 brings?

I just wanted a new ball and now I got this cash burning a hole in my pocket lol.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: SVstar34 on January 01, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
I wouldn't personally recommend the Cold Blood. I think there are many other options out there that are a better investment.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on January 01, 2015, 06:48:01 PM
I wouldn't personally recommend the Cold Blood. I think there are many other options out there that are a better investment.

Thanks for the honest opinion and feedback.

Is there something you would've gotten over the Cold Blood if you had to make the decision again. If you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: SVstar34 on January 01, 2015, 06:55:49 PM
If I had to do that over, I would have gone with a Brunswick Mastermind or Ebonite Pivot. I actually had a Radical Guru ordered that should be getting drilled tomorrow or Saturday and then get to throw it Sunday in league
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: milorafferty on January 01, 2015, 07:19:17 PM
Buddies has a nice selection of Cold Bloods in 14 and 15 lbs for $89.00 each shipped. Probably the best deal you will ever find.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: Dave81644 on January 01, 2015, 07:38:41 PM
the BW legend would be a better choice in my opinion
proven core/cover combo
very clean cover and seems to store a ton of energy at the pins
mine took some tweaking to get it where i wanted

the deadly aim might also work as well
while not exactly the same, the motions of these 2 should be similar to the cold blood
i just figure that im going to have to tweak a new piece to get it where i want, i dont like a weight hole until i throw it and then decide if i need 1 or not
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: buckeyebailz on January 07, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
I personally love my cold blood. I took the cover to 4000 and polished it up. Everyone told me that the ball would never hook. To everyones surprize it hooked more. This is the first ball out my bag. I better hurry up and find another one before they are all gone. Mine has about 1000 games on it and its still going strong. I tried to replace it with my bad ass but my bad ass is to over under for me to throw it consistantly. Now im gonna have to hurry and get another cold blood.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: billdozer on January 07, 2015, 10:36:51 PM
You will see a bad ass solid...if theyre smart..it'll come out for nationals.   

I dont bet on EBI being that smart...it'll prolly come out in July lol
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: buckeyebailz on January 07, 2015, 10:49:36 PM
I have a good friend who is a staffer that said there is a new bass ass ball coming out next. Should be in feb from what i was told
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: billdozer on January 07, 2015, 11:34:19 PM
I have a good friend who is a staffer that said there is a new bass ass ball coming out next. Should be in feb from what i was told

Good for them!  Makes sense right!
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: Dave81644 on January 08, 2015, 07:18:37 AM
it will be a beast from what i have heard
it will a "bad" something........
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: billdozer on January 08, 2015, 09:09:59 AM
I think at some point they should do a mixture of the lines...."bad blood" would be interesting.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: Plowboy300 on January 08, 2015, 12:14:13 PM
I personally did not care of the Cold Blood (a little too strong/early for a HP ball), but you cannot wrong with a BW Legend or the new Bad Ass...

Question for you is what ball motion are you looking for?
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: bradl on January 08, 2015, 12:28:50 PM
You will see a bad ass solid...if theyre smart..it'll come out for nationals.   

I dont bet on EBI being that smart...it'll prolly come out in July lol

You mean something like this?

http://www.legend-star.com/ball-bad-ass-move.html

Not sure if we'll have anything stateside that's comparable, but seeing how some hidden gems tend to show up at Nationals, I wouldn't be surprised if one is released.

BL.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: billdozer on January 08, 2015, 01:51:56 PM
Clearly the move didn't make the cut, and it wasn't the right one.

We all have known about the move for a month! Or longer...
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on January 08, 2015, 09:24:45 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't count on the move. It uses the NBT Solid cover, so I would guess that the next version of the Bad Ass would have some variation of the Juiced coverstock.

Only question is what kind of condition will it be made for.

Separate question though, is Ron Hickland responsible for Overseas designs as will as the stateside designs?
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: buckeyebailz on January 09, 2015, 12:23:11 PM
From what im hearing the name is somewhere along the lines of bite me. Could be the widow bite cover with bad ass core?
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: bradl on January 09, 2015, 12:51:07 PM
From what im hearing the name is somewhere along the lines of bite me. Could be the widow bite cover with bad ass core?

Hmm..

Bite Me + Bad Ass = Bite My Ass.

Don't think that's gonna work.  :P

BL.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: Plowboy300 on January 09, 2015, 12:54:22 PM
That's definitely not the name of the new ball... I know, but cannot say anything until the info release date... Think you will be happy with what balls will be coming out...

From top to bottom, the Hammer line is rocking it this season. Really don't have any holes in the current line. The new ALF Solid is a great rolling piece & better than the original (which is scary)... Let me know if you have any questions regarding the current Hammer line!

Have a great weekend, gang!
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on January 09, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
That's definitely not the name of the new ball... I know, but cannot say anything until the info release date... Think you will be happy with what balls will be coming out...

From top to bottom, the Hammer line is rocking it this season. Really don't have any holes in the current line. The new ALF Solid is a great rolling piece & better than the original (which is scary)... Let me know if you have any questions regarding the current Hammer line!

Have a great weekend, gang!

That sounds great. Hopefully information will be released soon!
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: Dave81644 on January 14, 2015, 07:16:47 AM
27th
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: billdozer on January 14, 2015, 07:35:12 AM
There are 2 virals in league looking great FWIW, one guy is having a career season with one...
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: tkkshop on January 14, 2015, 09:22:36 AM
Bad Intentions and Black Widow Red Legend have been approved this month. The BWRL may have my attention if it's a Red Pearl like the original MISSION.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on January 15, 2015, 02:40:22 AM
Bad Intentions and Black Widow Red Legend have been approved this month. The BWRL may have my attention if it's a Red Pearl like the original MISSION.

If either of those balls can be equivalent to either the Jackal or the Guru then I would be EXTREMELY interested. I was debating between those two but decided to hold off until February so hopefully word is put out by then.

If I were to guess I'd think the B.W. Red Legend to be a pearl like the original B.W. Pearl and all I hear some places is that they wished they'd re-release that. No idea or guess about the Bad Intentions though lol.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: Dave81644 on January 15, 2015, 06:06:57 AM
BI = solid version of bad a$$
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: lbss831 on January 15, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
Wasn't the  bad  a** already a solid, so why would they make the bad intentions another solid, it should be hybrid or a pearl
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: Dave81644 on January 15, 2015, 03:59:34 PM
bad a$$ is a polished solid i believe
this one is supposed to a "suped" up version
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: Rodney_L on January 20, 2015, 07:58:50 AM
They had this new Bad series ball at the demo for the seminar. This ball was probably the strongest most continuous ball I have seen.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: lbss831 on January 20, 2015, 11:57:30 AM
Rodney Did you get to see the new widow
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: tkkshop on January 28, 2015, 04:19:45 AM
Bad Intentions and Black Widow Red Legend have been approved this month. The BWRL may have my attention if it's a Red Pearl like the original MISSION.
it has my attention  ;D
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on January 28, 2015, 04:31:26 AM
Bad Intentions and Black Widow Red Legend have been approved this month. The BWRL may have my attention if it's a Red Pearl like the original MISSION.
it has my attention  ;D

I would have to agree the BWRL has my attention and maybe a spot reserved in my bowling bag, but I'm having reservations about the Bad Intentions so far. I need to hear/see more of that one.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: ACES80 on January 28, 2015, 09:06:51 AM
i will have this in my bag ;D
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: pin-smasher on January 28, 2015, 11:54:25 AM
Didnt care for bad ass so i will pass on bad intentions but will get red legend. .
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: SVstar34 on January 28, 2015, 12:54:11 PM
Something about the Bad Ass and Bad Intentions have never been that appealing to me. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I know I wouldn't pay the premium they want for them when the core doesn't seem much different from the Fat Max used in the Absolut series which is $50+ less
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on January 28, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
Something about the Bad Ass and Bad Intentions have never been that appealing to me. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I know I wouldn't pay the premium they want for them when the core doesn't seem much different from the Fat Max used in the Absolut series which is $50+ less

I'd have to agree, the "Bad" line so far hasn't really appealed with me either. Maybe because of my success with my Black Widow's, but I haven't been that intrigued with the high-end releases when the stuff they have underneath is just as good or better and they cost less.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: bradl on January 28, 2015, 07:54:23 PM

The RWL, at least on paper, looks to be the perfect replacement for the Cold Blood.

Same Overstock.
Gas Mask core instead of the First Blood Core.
Extra coverstock prep run at 500 Abralon (500/500/500/1500 OOB finish, for the RWL, version 500/500/1500 for the Cold Blood).
Red instead of Blue.

This definitely will replace the Cold Blood in my bag, especially if I could get it to 500/500/1500.

Shawn throwing the pin-up version is sick.

BL.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: billdozer on January 28, 2015, 08:50:15 PM
I'd recommend something from Kentucky that's a pearl without pearl like that mad antics, or a pivot.  Idk...if the red BW has polish on it won't be the same.
Title: Re: Cold Blood Replacement?
Post by: bradl on January 29, 2015, 01:36:59 PM
I'd recommend something from Kentucky that's a pearl without pearl like that mad antics, or a pivot.  Idk...if the red BW has polish on it won't be the same.

I already have the Pivot! :) So this would be a step down for that, which is what I am looking for. It would match up perfectly between the BWL I have and the Absolute Flip I'm throwing on the major burn or lighter volumes of oil.

Side note: What would be the difference between the finish with polish, versus the finish with Clean'n'Sheen?

BL.