Post by: banjoec on August 07, 2008, 10:49:49 AM
Post by: bluerrpilot on August 07, 2008, 07:28:55 PM
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Post by: themachine300 on August 07, 2008, 07:46:36 PM
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Move left, hook it more.....
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Post by: don coyote on August 07, 2008, 08:19:55 PM
Post by: themachine300 on August 07, 2008, 08:27:57 PM
Its all ball matienence. I throw ebo stuff, their covers are very strong. I bleed them out all the time dull em' to the grits I want, and they're as good as new
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Move left, hook it more.....
Tommy Jones and Kenny Simard are Gamecock fans...are you???
We shall now refer a 4-bagger as a hambone...Mark it down the revolution has started!
Post by: crusher267658 on August 07, 2008, 09:19:15 PM
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For sale/trade:
16lb Vapor Zone
16lb Black Widow Pearl
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16lb Special Agent
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16lb Black Hammer
16lb Anger
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16lb Fury
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Post by: rvmark on August 07, 2008, 10:23:11 PM
Mark
Post by: bluerrpilot on August 07, 2008, 11:30:32 PM
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Nobody was more anal about cleaning their equipment more than me. They stil died.
I tell my daughter than rubbing her hands under running water is not the same as washing them using soap.
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Post by: SVstar34 on August 07, 2008, 11:33:01 PM
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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
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That's life.
I'm pretty sure alot of people on BR, including me will say that the Blue Vibe is one of the best Hammer has released in recent years.
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Raw Hammer Pain
Blue Vibe
Post by: themachine300 on August 07, 2008, 11:45:03 PM
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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
--------------------You're pro or you're a noob.
That's life.
I'm pretty sure alot of people on BR, including me will say that the Blue Vibe is one of the best Hammer has released in recent years.
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My Arsenal:
Twisted Fury
Raw Hammer Pain
Blue Vibe
Oh yeah, the blue vibe is a great piece from what I've seen
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Move left, hook it more.....
Tommy Jones and Kenny Simard are Gamecock fans...are you???
We shall now refer a 4-bagger as a hambone...Mark it down the revolution has started!
Post by: B-Team 300 on August 07, 2008, 11:46:45 PM
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Post by: Blistershurt on August 08, 2008, 12:14:30 AM
They weren't actually dead either, just clogged with oil. All of Hammer's balls have aggressive covers on them, meaning lots of oil absorption.
I for one, like the BWP BWS and BWB, but the BWC and BWV are just ridiculous gimmicks.
The Vibes are GREAT balls, good performance for a smaller price, they're all different and good balls, they all have covers that have been tested on different balls (except for the Cherry) and just fitted with a different core that is a pretty good combo with the covers.
IF YOUR EQUIPMENT "DIES" YOU ARE NOT CLEANING YOUR STUFF WELL ENOUGH, BOTTOM LINE.
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Post by: stormerjip on August 08, 2008, 02:05:56 AM
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Post by: pocketsmasher51582 on August 08, 2008, 02:40:04 AM
With bowling balls getting stronger and stronger every couple months/year proper matienence is a key to getting/ keeping a ball reacting the same from when it was brand new is cleaning it, resurface(if needed), surface adjustments Ect...
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Post by: banjoec on August 08, 2008, 02:58:29 AM
You can dismiss my opinion claiming that it's based on ignorance. It's just my opinion. So keep your analogies about arrow, indians and kids washing hands. If you feel good throwing Hammer, then I'm happy for you. I just don't see myself getting too excited about any more spiders.
Post by: Moon57 on August 08, 2008, 06:06:57 AM
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Post by: six pack on August 08, 2008, 06:26:08 AM
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I clean my equipment after each session. Adjust the covers when needed. The original Widows were great for the first 40-50 games. After that they were only good on THS. The Blue Vibe is a great ball.
You can dismiss my opinion claiming that it's based on ignorance. It's just my opinion. So keep your analogies about arrow, indians and kids washing hands. If you feel good throwing Hammer, then I'm happy for you. I just don't see myself getting too excited about any more spiders.
Try Brunswick or MoRich.I love my LevRg and I've owned my Intense Inferno since it was released,zero loss in performance.with all the Ebo made covers I could'nt find something I liked but instead I tried to live with.
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Post by: leftyinsnellville on August 08, 2008, 07:19:14 AM
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220...221...whatever it takes.
Post by: Lillen on August 08, 2008, 07:50:54 AM
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Throw your Widows in the dishwasher and turn off the dryer. Don't use any detergent. Come out just like new.
Did that yesterday..
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Post by: Moon57 on August 08, 2008, 07:51:35 AM
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Post by: J_Mac on August 08, 2008, 09:04:40 AM
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That is the first time I have ever heard of anyone not liking the Blue Vibe.......quote:
The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
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That's life.
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Post by: Gazoo on August 08, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
Post by: leftyinsnellville on August 08, 2008, 09:10:02 AM
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Say lefty, the dishwasher trick might work better than a hot water bath because the ball is getting hit with a spray instead of passively sitting in hot water. Could be the spray dislodges dirt that is present in the cover. Wonder how a power washer would work? Wouldn't be any harm in trying it on a ball that somebody"s giver up on.
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So many questions, so little time but I'm having fun.
It isn't just the spray...the heat and steam also cause the ball to "sweat" out oil and dirt. The temperature inside the dishwasher is high enough to get the job done, but not so high that you risk harming your ball.
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Post by: brett_dubbin on August 08, 2008, 09:13:24 AM
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Post by: robbouk on August 08, 2008, 09:23:39 AM
Post by: KDawg77 on August 08, 2008, 09:39:48 AM
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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
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That's life.
Yep, it's confirmed. He's a Noob.
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Post by: NJStroker on August 08, 2008, 12:00:28 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: OddBalls on August 08, 2008, 12:01:28 PM
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DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Sez who??
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Post by: directdrill on August 08, 2008, 12:04:00 PM
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DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Why not? The directions on the bottle do not warn against using the product on a spinner. I have used Clean n' Dull on a spinner and not seen a reduction in performance.
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Post by: janderson on August 08, 2008, 12:13:44 PM
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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
If you read these forums long enough, you'll hear that about every ball from every manufacturer.
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Post by: OddBalls on August 08, 2008, 12:13:52 PM
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DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Why not? The directions on the bottle do not warn against using the product on a spinner. I have used Clean n' Dull on a spinner and not seen a reduction in performance.
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Hook 'em Horns!
Tag Team Coaching success story.
Me too..
Contains no grit and it's not a polish. Really does a good job of surface cleaning a ball to remove grease and belt marks.
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on August 08, 2008, 12:26:22 PM
As far as people doing maintenance on their stuff. Just using a spinner with a cleaner does not do the trick completely. It more or less just cleans the surface. It does not get what is inside the ball to come out. When doing a hot water bath, you must repeat the process with fresh hot water until you see no oily film on top of the water. That means dumping the water out every 15 minutes and refilling the bucket with fresh hot water. A friend of mine has a Revivor and he has told me that there are times where it takes almost an entire 8 hour day to completely extract oil from some of the balls he receives.
The Blue Vibe was one of the best balls that Hammer released in the past several years. It reminded me alot of a Black Widow for lighter conditions (similar ball motion).
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Post by: mainzer on August 08, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
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Post by: rvmark on August 08, 2008, 01:08:40 PM
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I still think Ebonites covers are junk they die to fast and I really don't beleive they are stronger than anyone elses stuff I don't see a big differnce
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Post by: KDawg77 on August 08, 2008, 01:09:27 PM
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Post by: six pack on August 08, 2008, 01:12:12 PM
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Post by: Oskuposer on August 08, 2008, 01:15:25 PM
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Post by: var60bfl on August 08, 2008, 01:23:15 PM
Post by: SVstar34 on August 08, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
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They bowling balls are fine except the red vibe dont put pin under middle it will crack. Hanging around a pro shop you see alot and all 3 were on their first drill 3 different bowlers.
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Visionary test staff
That doesn't make any sense, I've seen plenty of Vibes with pin under and have never seen them crack.
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Post by: DanR on August 08, 2008, 04:26:49 PM
Post by: Oldskool2 on August 08, 2008, 05:17:05 PM
I clean my equipment very well. When they lost performance, some of them I got back to react good again, others stayed dead.
I think it is also in the material itself. the additives that make the urethane proreactive vaporize in time. This happens with all plastics. My neighbor had a plastic ship model, that just crumbled at touch. Maybe that in some balls this happens to fast?
Because some people experience it and others don't with the same type of ball( maintained correctly), maybe it has to do with the consistency in quality of the raw materials.
I think, would this happen with a product other then a bowlingball, the company would get a lot more warranty claims. Now all is due to the owner or use.
When I calculate what the costs per game were for some balls I get a little irritated.
Greetings,
Antoine
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on August 08, 2008, 05:25:58 PM
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i must be the weirdest person ever i rarely ever clean anything and never bleed oil out of anything but have still never had any ball from any company die other than my el nino gold after 3 leagues season bowling 4 days a week.
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Naw I'm with you on that one...I never clean my stuff. Never had a ball die on me. I have all of the Black Widows except for the new one, and they are all going strong....
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Post by: charlest on August 08, 2008, 06:25:24 PM
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DONT USE CLEAN AND DULL ON A SPINNER
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Please explain how you came to that conclusion.
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Post by: Strider on August 09, 2008, 11:27:52 AM
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Post by: NJStroker on August 09, 2008, 11:57:59 AM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Brickguy221 on August 09, 2008, 12:18:50 PM
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OK. That's fair..
Track power wash after each set and C&D on the spinner once a week. Tried to revive both using hot water bath and then broke down and had them put in a reviver.
Still dead..
Two problems with your cleaning methods...
1. Track Power Wash isn't the best of cleaners. Not a bad cleaner, but there are better cleaners out there such as Legends Cleaner, Black Magic Ultimate Rejuvenator, and even Simple Green mixed with water. Legends is the best of all cleaners if you can stand the odor of it and not have it take away your breath if you have respiratory problems. I have tested these cleaners by cleaning a ball with for example, the Power Wash or other brand cleaner and then following that up with one of the Legends or Rejuvenator cleaners and getting more dirt, oil, etc off the ball and then reversed the procedure and cleaned with Legends or Rejuvenator and following up with Power Wash and not getting any more dirt, oil, etc. off the ball because the other cleaners cleaned it entirely.
I see people spray a ball lightly and wipe it off and I see some spray their towel and then wipe the ball off. I spray the ball very heavily until it runs off the ball, then let it sit until I see it start to evaporate. I then wipe the ball down.
2. Some people claim success using the Spinner with Clean & Dull and some people say it dims the balls action. When using the spinner, any pressure at all will burn some of the C & D into the ball and over time, the ball develops a slight sheen and loses it's performance. Personaly, I see no reason to use the spinner to begin with when applying C & D. I apply the C & D on the ball with a worn out white Scotchbrite Pad on polished and pearl balls and a worn out Gray Scotchbrite Pad on solid dull balls using little to no pressure, then let it sit until I start to see signs of evaporation, then wipe it off. I then take a wet towel and wipe ball again, followed by spraying the ball with water and wiping a final time with a dry towel.
By doing the two things I have listed above, I have never had a ball die on me. As for Ebonite made balls dying, I haven't had any since the V2 Solid and V2 Pearl days, but just ordered a V2 Playmaker Thursday this week, so after getting it and using my same cleaning procedure over time, I will find out if it dies or not.
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Post by: booyakashah69 on August 09, 2008, 12:45:09 PM
Post by: banjoec on August 10, 2008, 05:24:21 PM
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I also have had a problem with hammer equipment. I bought the No Mercy when it first came out. I bowl once a week and through 1 season the ball was dead. I bowled a 300 with this ball and averaged 229. I didn't bowl with it over the summer then got it out at the beginning of the next season and the ball was dead. I changed the surface to try to give the ball some life again and nothing happened, the ball flat lined---------. My dad talked to a couple of Hammer reps at a tournament in louiville and they said they even agree that Hammer was having problems with their coverstocks. I have lost confidence in Hammer also.
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Post by: Fatboy8 on August 11, 2008, 03:04:07 PM
I clean my stuff before it gets put away for the night, and have never had a problem. I also used the hot water method to extract oil every so often too.
Just my experience with cleaning and ball death.
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Post by: charlest on August 11, 2008, 04:13:30 PM
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ThePocketKing hit it on the head, a lot of people said it killed their balls because they pressed down too hard on the spinner and it gave it a light shine.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
I can shine a ball with SPIT on a towel if I press hard enough. That is not enough or a good reason NOT to use the efficiency of a spinner, INTELLIGENTLY, to clean a ball. That said, I personally rarely use a spinner to JUST clean a ball. Most cleaners do a much better job if allowed to sit on a ball for a short time, before you use a CLEAN rag to wipe the dirt and excess cleaner away.
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Post by: OddBalls on August 11, 2008, 04:37:07 PM
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OK. That's fair..
Track power wash after each set and C&D on the spinner once a week. Tried to revive both using hot water bath and then broke down and had them put in a reviver.
Still dead..
Two problems with your cleaning methods...
1. Track Power Wash isn't the best of cleaners. Not a bad cleaner, but there are better cleaners out there such as Legends Cleaner, Black Magic Ultimate Rejuvenator, and even Simple Green mixed with water. Legends is the best of all cleaners if you can stand the odor of it and not have it take away your breath if you have respiratory problems. I have tested these cleaners by cleaning a ball with for example, the Power Wash or other brand cleaner and then following that up with one of the Legends or Rejuvenator cleaners and getting more dirt, oil, etc off the ball and then reversed the procedure and cleaned with Legends or Rejuvenator and following up with Power Wash and not getting any more dirt, oil, etc. off the ball because the other cleaners cleaned it entirely.
I see people spray a ball lightly and wipe it off and I see some spray their towel and then wipe the ball off. I spray the ball very heavily until it runs off the ball, then let it sit until I see it start to evaporate. I then wipe the ball down.
2. Some people claim success using the Spinner with Clean & Dull and some people say it dims the balls action. When using the spinner, any pressure at all will burn some of the C & D into the ball and over time, the ball develops a slight sheen and loses it's performance. Personaly, I see no reason to use the spinner to begin with when applying C & D. I apply the C & D on the ball with a worn out white Scotchbrite Pad on polished and pearl balls and a worn out Gray Scotchbrite Pad on solid dull balls using little to no pressure, then let it sit until I start to see signs of evaporation, then wipe it off. I then take a wet towel and wipe ball again, followed by spraying the ball with water and wiping a final time with a dry towel.
By doing the two things I have listed above, I have never had a ball die on me. As for Ebonite made balls dying, I haven't had any since the V2 Solid and V2 Pearl days, but just ordered a V2 Playmaker Thursday this week, so after getting it and using my same cleaning procedure over time, I will find out if it dies or not.
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Brick
Brick,
I have plenty of Ebo/Hammer stuff that never flat lined on me like the BW solid and the TNV. I LOVED these balls and treated them better than my wife.
I have a orginal One, two Shooters, a playmaker and a V2 Sanded that stll react and work very well.
Not ALL Ebo stuff dies, but these two did snd it just so happened I got the first run of both of them.
Coincidence? Maybe. But it sure is weird..
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Post by: Brickguy221 on August 11, 2008, 06:58:25 PM
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Coincidence? Maybe. But it sure is weird..
Vince, I just ordered an Ebonite Playmaker last week and I hope I have better luck than you did on the Ebonite made balls that died on you. This will be the first Ebonite made Ball I have had since the days of the V2 Pearl and original V2 Sanded. I loveed the V2 core on those 2 balls and was wanting a ball to fit below my Twisted Fury, Heist and Rapid Fire Solid, thus my reason for taking a chance on the Playmaker and it's V2 Core.
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Post by: janderson on August 14, 2008, 10:43:16 AM
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I LOVED these balls and treated them better than my wife.
wow - never thought of putting my wife on the spinner. Wonder what grit would make her perform the best...
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Post by: Brickguy221 on August 14, 2008, 10:48:56 AM
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wow - never thought of putting my wife on the spinner. Wonder what grit would make her perform the best...
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Post by: Doug Sterner on August 17, 2008, 05:24:14 PM
The problem is their definition of "clean." While spraying a ball down with ball cleaner may be considered cleaning it the new balls need more.
Cleaning only goes so far. Surface maintenance is the term that needs to be used now. I don't care how clean you keep it the ball is going to eventually need a sand , suck & shine.
Why do drag racers do a burnout before each run? Not to look cool but rather to get all the old rubber and crap off their tires to gain better traction on the track. Do they just wipe the tires down with cleaner and say "good enough?" Of course not...the same applies to a bowling ball.
Every so often the old, worn out resin needs to be removed to get fresh resin on the outside of the ball.
Add to this the fact that the new covers absorb oil and attract dirt into the pores of the ball and you need to sand the ball every so often and deep clean the pores.
Times they are a changin'...either adjust or be left behind.
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Post by: Stan on August 19, 2008, 10:33:55 PM
Post by: Doug Sterner on August 19, 2008, 10:46:31 PM
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Post by: SVstar34 on August 19, 2008, 10:53:50 PM
(Back to Bowling)
Bowling balls do need to be resurfaced every once in a while.
Normal balls usually need to be resurfaced around 50 games, but could need to be resurfaced sooner depending on oil absorption.
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Post by: pjr300 on September 16, 2008, 09:45:30 PM
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....I for one, like the BWP BWS and BWB, but the BWC and BWV are just ridiculous gimmicks....
Blistershurt: why do you think the Venom is a gimmick? Not flaming you, just an honest question... thx.
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Post by: chitown on September 17, 2008, 08:06:41 AM
The only new Hammer ball that has my interest is the Emerald Vibe and that's only because i've had such great success with the Blue Vibe. I'm not interested in the Psycho or the Venom.
I've not had any problems with Hammer equipment dying. I've seen a drop in reaction because of the equipment getting oil soaked but nothing a hot water bath can't fix. All equipment absorbs oil. Some bowling balls absorb i quicker than others such as the No Mercy. However, each ball i've owned from Hammer has responded great to hot water baths. The equipment acts like new after oil xtraction.
I'm just not too interested in Hammers new line up. I've been looking to build a new arsenal for this season and have my sights set on Storm and MoRich. Maybe Hammer will come out with a new ball to spark my interest.
Edited on 9/17/2008 8:15 AM
Post by: chitown on September 17, 2008, 08:09:39 AM
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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
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That's life.
I would have to totally disagree with you about the Blue Vibe. For me the Blue Vibe is one of the best bowling balls ever made. I wonder if you changed the cover grit on your Blue Vibe? A lot of bowlers wont ever change the cover on a shiny ball for whatever reason.
Post by: KDawg77 on September 19, 2008, 08:42:29 AM
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Post by: los2003 on September 22, 2008, 02:14:52 PM
Post by: agroves on September 22, 2008, 02:21:27 PM
Bite--Early Roll, sanded to 1000 abralon
BW Pearl--Skid/flip--4000 no polish
Psycho--Box condition
Emerald Vibe--low flare layout, box
Razyr--Box
Spare
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Post by: J_Mac on September 22, 2008, 02:22:52 PM
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the widow core is the same as the old big blue and big blue pearl. I like those petter than the whole widow series.
The Widow core is not the same as the Big Blue and Big Blue Pearl.
BW Bite - http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2871
Big Blue - http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2144
The Widow core shares the same shape and numbers as the Big Deal core.
The Big Deal - http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2577
You might like the BB and BBP because of the lower amount of flare potential.
Post by: los2003 on September 22, 2008, 03:22:47 PM
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=18&BallID=899
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=18&BallID=505
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=18&BallID=471
Edited on 9/22/2008 3:25 PM