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Title: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: thewhiz on January 05, 2017, 03:35:10 PM
Will the gauntlet hook more than the new rules?
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: suhoney24 on January 05, 2017, 03:52:24 PM
how is the gauntlet supposed to be more aggressive than the scandal but has less of a fcc rating according to hammer?
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: charlest on January 05, 2017, 04:47:45 PM
how is the gauntlet supposed to be more aggressive than the scandal but has less of a fcc rating according to hammer?

Could it be because of the asymmetric core?
But, then, they would have factored that into the FCC rating, right?
That brings up why did they rate the Gauntlet's core as weaker than the Scandal if the Gauntlet's has the added Intermediate differential of .012, which can get much larger with an appropriate drilling???

Yes, I see; I raised more questions than I answered.
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Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: bradl on January 05, 2017, 05:40:01 PM
how is the gauntlet supposed to be more aggressive than the scandal but has less of a fcc rating according to hammer?

Could it be because of the asymmetric core?
But, then, they would have factored that into the FCC rating, right?
That brings up why did they rate the Gauntlet's core as weaker than the Scandal if the Gauntlet's has the added Intermediate differential of .012, which can get much larger with an appropriate drilling???

Yes, I see; I raised more questions than I answered.
Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of a bowling ball manufacturer??
The Shadow does!

It is interesting to note that the core/cover combo of the Gauntlet is weaker than the Scandal. .25 lower on the cover and .5 lower on the core, compared to the Scandal.

BL.
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: themachine300 on January 05, 2017, 06:59:59 PM
The gauntlet is a hybrid vs the scandal being a solid
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: Juggernaut on January 05, 2017, 08:59:07 PM
 One thing I have learned in this life, is that SOMETIMES things are more than just the sum of their parts.

 Take the old Ebonite V2. It wasn't supposed to be anything special, just introduced as a decent, mid-level ball. For some reason, it just worked, and so well in fact, that we still have quasi versions of it around today in the Gamebreaker series.

 That may not be the case here, but it does sometimes happen
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: CoorZero on January 05, 2017, 09:09:54 PM
One thing I have learned in this life, is that SOMETIMES things are more than just the sum of their parts.

 Take the old Ebonite V2. It wasn't supposed to be anything special, just introduced as a decent, mid-level ball. For some reason, it just worked, and so well in fact, that we still have quasi versions of it around today in the Gamebreaker series.

 That may not be the case here, but it does sometimes happen

The !Q line kinda worked out like that too, at least when the Tour editions got into the lineup. Storm wasn't expecting that kind of strength. I remember them having those two balls in like the medium-light oil category on their site and/or comparison tool.
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: Dave81644 on January 07, 2017, 04:52:49 PM
Attended EBI seminar early in 2016
Learned that the numbers don't mean as much as they used to
Can't tell what a certain ball will do by numbers alone
Might give an general indication of what to expect

I had heard that the Gauntlet was at approx 3-4 stronger than the Tyrant
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: WOWZERS on January 07, 2017, 05:35:06 PM
As I posted in 2 different threads, I saw Adam Barta use his Gauntlet in league Thursday. The leadoff bowler on his team used a Tyrant the last game and a half or so and Adam was WELL left of the leadoff bowler. Not even close and the leadoff bowler throws it just as good as Adam.
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: djgook on January 18, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
So is this the end of the Scandal series because as we know it will be a Gauntlet pearl comming out soon
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: CoorZero on January 18, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
Probably. The Semtex CFI coverstock now has solid, pearl, and hybrid variations. Since the Gauntlet uses the latter it's unlikely a new Scandal coming out will. And with the introduction of the Phobia as a higher-performance symmetrical core I think both the Scandal and Legend lines are going to be retired. No need for a top shelf symmetrical or second-to-top shelf asymmetrical anymore. I think everything would be way too close for them.
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 18, 2017, 12:19:34 PM
Retirement of the legend line would be a monumental time.
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: bradl on January 18, 2017, 01:55:27 PM
So is this the end of the Scandal series because as we know it will be a Gauntlet pearl comming out soon

I doubt that. Keep in mind that the entire Scandal series, including the Amazing Scandal and other international Scandals are symmetric, versus the Gauntlet which is asymmetric.

BL.
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: DeeDotC300 on January 19, 2017, 09:03:39 PM
The Hammer Gauntlet is scheduled to be released in your local pro shops on February 14. This has the very successful Carbon Fiber Infused cover with the new Gauntlet core. This assymetric bowling ball is very smooth and predictable. I have used it for a few weeks on various THS and a few patterns and see that this will be a good seller. Don't miss out on this gem when it hits the pro shops...
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: billdozer on January 20, 2017, 09:15:14 AM
They could just carry both symmetrical and assymtrical balls in Thier HP price price point. I can't see the scandal going so soon
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 20, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
I think they are looking to keep Asym and Sym in both lines. Otherwise maybe an eventual flip to go more like other companies where Asym is the top line.
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: CoorZero on January 20, 2017, 10:41:39 AM
To me that seems like a lot of product to keep in production. Especially if the next Gauntlet(s) and Scandal(s) would share the same coverstock which seems to be the case with the latest release being the last (maybe) iteration of Semtex CFI.

On the other hand Hammer has kept more in their lineup than the other three EBI brands over the last few years. It would also be a shame to see the Scandal line retired after the success of those two balls thus far.

I don't know, it just seems crowded to me. Like the rest of the ball market I guess...
Title: Re: Gauntlet vs. No Rules
Post by: REmarcaBOWL on January 20, 2017, 10:49:28 AM
Will the gauntlet hook more than the new rules?

NO

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