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TWOHAND834

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Scorpion Sting and Envy Solid
« on: August 24, 2022, 09:11:20 AM »
Two new releases coming from Hammer and I for one am super excited about the Sting coming out.  Seems to be a replacement for the Web Pearl as it has the 3.0 version of the LED core which lowered the RG to 2.48.  It has the pearl version of the cover on the original Scorpion (Symtex Pearl vs Symtex Hybrid).  The Envy is the new high end release to take over the spot held by the Obsession.

https://hammerbowling.com/collections/balls/products/scorpion-sting
https://hammerbowling.com/collections/balls/products/envy
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Re: Scorpion Sting and Envy Solid
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2022, 09:18:00 AM »
I like the looks of the Sting. It could be a replacement for my Rhodman Pearl....

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Re: Scorpion Sting and Envy Solid
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2022, 11:27:10 AM »

Out of the two, the Sting looks the best. The Symtex cover was the same cover that was used on the Scandal series, which was the best symmetrical HP balls I've used. The LED core is already proven: Original Scorpion, Purple Pearl Urethane, etc. Predictable with predictable, so that makes a great midrange product.

Is this coming in to replace the Web series, or the Raw series?

As for the Envy Solid... ugh. It's going to need oil like the Obsession Solid, which if there isn't any, it's going to burn up and puke.

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Re: Scorpion Sting and Envy Solid
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2022, 12:14:03 PM »

As for the Envy Solid... ugh. It's going to need oil like the Obsession Solid, which if there isn't any, it's going to burn up and puke.

I'm surprised to see the Envy Solid cover again. Same cover from the Infamous, the marketing mentions the Obsession but that had the CFI infused version.

The Obsession had the issue of not having enough torque, so maybe the new core will help solve that issue. The Paragon just did circles around the Obsession

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Re: Scorpion Sting and Envy Solid
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2022, 06:26:05 AM »

Out of the two, the Sting looks the best. The Symtex cover was the same cover that was used on the Scandal series, which was the best symmetrical HP balls I've used. The LED core is already proven: Original Scorpion, Purple Pearl Urethane, etc. Predictable with predictable, so that makes a great midrange product.

Is this coming in to replace the Web series, or the Raw series?

As for the Envy Solid... ugh. It's going to need oil like the Obsession Solid, which if there isn't any, it's going to burn up and puke.

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My thought is that it will replace the Web Pearl with the cover and also being a lower RG symmetric pearl.  Cant imagine Hammer would have two symmetric pearls that close in reaction with similar core numbers.  It isnt like a Phaze 4 and Hy-Road Pearl. 
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Re: Scorpion Sting and Envy Solid
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2022, 12:35:40 PM »

Out of the two, the Sting looks the best. The Symtex cover was the same cover that was used on the Scandal series, which was the best symmetrical HP balls I've used. The LED core is already proven: Original Scorpion, Purple Pearl Urethane, etc. Predictable with predictable, so that makes a great midrange product.

Is this coming in to replace the Web series, or the Raw series?

As for the Envy Solid... ugh. It's going to need oil like the Obsession Solid, which if there isn't any, it's going to burn up and puke.

BL.


My thought is that it will replace the Web Pearl with the cover and also being a lower RG symmetric pearl.  Cant imagine Hammer would have two symmetric pearls that close in reaction with similar core numbers.  It isnt like a Phaze 4 and Hy-Road Pearl.

Hmm... Then if it is in the same vein as the Web Pearl, then you'd think that the original Scorpion would be in the same performance area as the Web Tour Hybrid Edition, but it is under that, and both are still listed as current balls.

I ask this because I see that they've retired the Web Tour Hybrid Edition, and that's my benchmark ball, so that means that they're missing a hybrid in their Upper Mid range of balls, and that has me debating on getting another one in case something newer doesn't come out or isn't better.

Also, I may have found the answer. they are keeping the Raw series in their Lower mid range, and my son is at the stage where he could bump up, so I'm looking at either  something like the Scorpion or going Dark Web for him.

BL.