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Title: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: SVstar34 on December 15, 2016, 10:50:25 AM
The Phobia video makes it look very similar to the C300 Impulse

http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/upper-mid-performance/phobia


http://www.ebonite.com/products/balls/mid-performance/game-breaker-2-phenom-pearl


Also see on the approved list C300 Tyrant Pearl & Side Swipe Solid. Hammer Guantlet and Track Mako.

Storm Timeless is back on the list
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 15, 2016, 12:05:43 PM
Tell me more about this Guantlet for anyone that knows.
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: northface28 on December 15, 2016, 12:21:27 PM
If bowling is "dying" why does it seem the ball releases are more frequent than ever?
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: djgook on December 15, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
Phobia video http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/hammer/13120/phobia.html
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: CoorZero on December 15, 2016, 02:41:28 PM
So the Phobia should be a cleaner version of the Scandal Pearl. Semtex vs Semtex CFI coverstock. We know the Scandal core is strong and the Phobia core numbers are almost identical. Kind of a strange release so soon after the Scandal Pearl, but if it's significantly cleaner through the fronts with more backend then it makes some sense. The Scandal Pearl is pretty early for a ball like that.
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: tkkshop on December 15, 2016, 05:32:05 PM
If bowling is "dying" why does it seem the ball releases are more frequent than ever?
last ball didn't sell, maybe the next one will... it's the EBI motto
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: billdozer on December 15, 2016, 10:25:40 PM
Wasn't there other stuff announced too? Like a gauntlet and tyrant pearl?
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: suhoney24 on December 15, 2016, 10:35:07 PM
I think they are on the approved list but nothing on the main sites yet
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 16, 2016, 04:10:20 AM
It's a close race on who is pumping out more new stuff faster, EBI or the Storm/RG/900 Global folks!
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: bradl on December 16, 2016, 01:33:10 PM
It's a close race on who is pumping out more new stuff faster, EBI or the Storm/RG/900 Global folks!

when you think about it, this is on par with the time of the year.

Judging over the past.. call it 5 years, we've seen the pattern of something released at the beginning of the season, right around the middle of the year/Christmas time, again around the time of Nationals, then during the summer, with all of it being a combination of what's in the HP or MP line. It's almost predictable, with the exception of what type of ball is being released.

The only thing I can say is that it puts a lot of onus on the bowler to do their homework now, as they are easily being put on the fence for what ball to get for what they want it to do.

BL.
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: SVstar34 on December 16, 2016, 01:53:34 PM
The GB2 Phenom Pearl looks sexy in the picture Ebonite posted on their Facebook page today
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 16, 2016, 01:56:19 PM
It's a close race on who is pumping out more new stuff faster, EBI or the Storm/RG/900 Global folks!

when you think about it, this is on par with the time of the year.

Judging over the past.. call it 5 years, we've seen the pattern of something released at the beginning of the season, right around the middle of the year/Christmas time, again around the time of Nationals, then during the summer, with all of it being a combination of what's in the HP or MP line. It's almost predictable, with the exception of what type of ball is being released.

The only thing I can say is that it puts a lot of onus on the bowler to do their homework now, as they are easily being put on the fence for what ball to get for what they want it to do.

BL.

I wish all manufactures followed a February, May, August, and December release schedule or similar. That way they all drop together, I can compare and make my purchases for that release.
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: Dave81644 on December 17, 2016, 10:14:33 AM
The Phobia is a symmetrical widow basically
The Mako and the Phenom pearl were a huge favorite by the players at the World series that just wrapped up
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 20, 2016, 01:16:16 PM
I like where they are going with the Phobia though. Symmetric options in that Category other than the Widow line is a fun refresher. 
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: bradl on December 20, 2016, 02:36:28 PM

that Gauntlet is going to be a beast. My PSO in Vegas was able to catch the videos of that ball rolling, and he's drooling at the mouth over that ball. All that he could tell me is that it is Hammer's next HP ball.

That had me worried as they just brought out both Scandals (yes, the Solid Scandal is coming up on a year old), but from what he mentioned, the Gauntlet is going to be asymmetrical, so this would basically be replacing the Dark Legend Solid, as we're getting a different shape altogether with the Scandal and it being symmetric.

so far, that's all I've heard: Assymetric, HP ball, replacing Dark Legend Solid.

BL.
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 20, 2016, 02:47:09 PM

that Gauntlet is going to be a beast. My PSO in Vegas was able to catch the videos of that ball rolling, and he's drooling at the mouth over that ball. All that he could tell me is that it is Hammer's next HP ball.

That had me worried as they just brought out both Scandals (yes, the Solid Scandal is coming up on a year old), but from what he mentioned, the Gauntlet is going to be asymmetrical, so this would basically be replacing the Dark Legend Solid, as we're getting a different shape altogether with the Scandal and it being symmetric.

so far, that's all I've heard: Assymetric, HP ball, replacing Dark Legend Solid.

BL.

Now to see how it compares with the Jackal Ghost to determine my new Asym HP ball. I would think there would be some media about it shortly if people are seeing it being rolled already. I'm guessing it'll be announced with the Mako.
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: Dave81644 on December 21, 2016, 09:38:32 PM
Imagine a Scandal with an asymmetric core.......
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: Plowboy300 on December 29, 2016, 11:12:28 AM
Heya gang... In regards to the Phobia, I have thrown this for the past 2 weeks and very impressed with the motion of this ball. I love the Scandal Pearl, but for me, this ball labors a bit too much... this is where the Phobia really shines... this ball can handle about the same amount of volume, but it is angular in the backends.

This is a great symmetrical ball that has some angle on it. Really compliments the Legend series and fills a motion that I was looking for in our lineup. I was skeptical about this release as I thought this would roll too close to the Scandal Pearl, but well done by Hammer on this new release.  Most styles will like what they see in the Phobia.

Regarding the Gauntlet... I have heard that it will be a Assymetrical ball and will be strong rolling like the Tyrant / Mako motion...  Actually looking forward to this release!
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: SVstar34 on January 05, 2017, 02:16:29 PM
Side Swipe Solid, Tyrant Pearl, Maverick Pearl, Mako, and Kinetic up on their respective sites now.

Only ball left is the Guantlet.

Track made my day. I thought the Kinetic Emerald would be an overseas release. I still kick myself for selling my 505c2
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: CoorZero on January 05, 2017, 02:40:45 PM
Side Swipe Solid, Tyrant Pearl, Maverick Pearl, Mako, and Kinetic up on their respective sites now.

Only ball left is the Guantlet.

Track made my day. I thought the Kinetic Emerald would be an overseas release. I still kick myself for selling my 505c2

http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/high-performance/gauntlet
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: Dave81644 on January 05, 2017, 04:08:34 PM
The new Kinetic is so very good......so Ive heard
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: Dave81644 on January 05, 2017, 04:10:04 PM
and the Gauntlet will be a scandal with an asymmetrical core
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: SVstar34 on January 05, 2017, 04:13:14 PM
The new Kinetic is so very good......so Ive heard

Don't tease. I've already put in a call to my pso to see if he could have one for me when I see him the weekend after next
Title: Re: Hammer Phobia & Ebonite GB2 Phenom Pearl 1/10/17
Post by: bradl on January 05, 2017, 05:37:26 PM
and the Gauntlet will be a scandal with an asymmetrical core

That Gauntlet core looks like the Gas Mask core on steroids. Though, I'll be staying with the Scandal and Scandal Pearl, though that Maverick Pearl looks interesting.

BL.