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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: Shreyas66 on April 18, 2019, 09:34:18 AM
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I am planning to get an urethane ball from hammer but little confused because of the variety they have. Most of the times when I bowl at our local lanes, they are dry. I am a 2 handed rev dominant player and looking to get something that is smooth, predictable and stronger. Suggestions from other brands are also welcomed.
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When I was bowling no-thumb, I had Hammer's Black Hammer urethane, the one that is available now, not the OG. For me, that ball was VERY strong. Unless there was lots of oil, I usually had to give the pocket away a little bit, and it still sometimes surprised me with just how hard it would turn back.
Now, from what I've SEEN, the purple pearl urethane seems to be the more popular choice. It appears to be a touch cleaner up front and bit more responsive down lane. To be honest, it seems to give a bit more a of a resin look out of a urethane ball.
With that in mind, I think it just comes down to what type of shot shape you're looking to see. The black hammer, while still plenty strong down lane in the hands of someone with revs, will give you a slightly more traditional urethane look and can probably handle a bit more oil. The Purple Pearl will be a bit better on less oil and for creating more shape.
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+1 on purple. That ball is special imo. Own a dozen urethane balls and its by far my favorite. Strong oh so smooth and not too early.
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+1 on purple. That ball is special imo. Own a dozen urethane balls and its by far my favorite. Strong oh so smooth and not too early.
So then would you say that the BW Urethane is "too much" urethane for that type of condition?
I ask because this would be the first time that I've ever heard someone imply that a urethane ball is too strong/too much urethane compared to others (notwithstanding the unicorn that is the P7).
BL.
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+1 on purple. That ball is special imo. Own a dozen urethane balls and its by far my favorite. Strong oh so smooth and not too early.
So then would you say that the BW Urethane is "too much" urethane for that type of condition?
I ask because this would be the first time that I've ever heard someone imply that a urethane ball is too strong/too much urethane compared to others (notwithstanding the unicorn that is the P7).
BL.
Don't own an asym urethane. Which is why didn't mention BW urethane. Don't like asyms that much in general. Purple gives me a ton of miss room at the bottom that not sure asyms would. Purple is plenty strong for conditions I use it on. Deceptively strong and never too early like some other urethane. Purple has nearly reactive like carry for me (granted using light 16# blem also) But yeah maybe BW urethane is the answer for a lot of people <shrug>
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I would compare the BW urethane to Roto's Hot Cell. I have the Hot Cell, and I can tell you that it digs in HARD and early, almost too much so. I've found that I have to feed it oil or go away from the pocket with it because it revs so strong. I haven't thrown the BW urethane, but the concept behind it was very much the same as the Hot Cell. As such, yes, I would imagine the BW urethane might be a bit too much for what you're going for.
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bowlers mart has the magenta hammer. if you don't mind 2nds the x outs are $110
https://www.bowlersmart.com/hamurmag (https://www.bowlersmart.com/hamurmag)
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bowlers mart has the magenta hammer. if you don't mind 2nds the x outs are $110
https://www.bowlersmart.com/hamurmag (https://www.bowlersmart.com/hamurmag)
I saw that, as well as that x-out BW Platinum Copper. I'm still hoping that someone brings in the BW White Pearl, as I'd jump on that and the BW Pink real fast.
BL.
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Purple hammer is currently the best urethane ball on the market and its not even close imo. Its extremely versatile on short oil patterns and even medium patterns with lighter volume if you have a lot hand. It actually tips down lane compared to other urethane pieces giving you a touch more forgiveness.
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I never threw the purple hammer.
I have about 400 rev, but low speed for that rev rate, and about 4 degrees of axis tilt. This combination causes carrydown. I have tried a low flare layout on a blue hammer (pin by PAP) and I would see carrydown after 2 or 3 shots.
Anyway, with purple hammer the differential is so low, I was afraid that it would good for a few shots and then I'd have a mess. I got a fever pitch instead of purple hammer for this reason.
Just curious is people have seen carrydown a problem w/ purple hammer.
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You want to get more flare to avoid the carrydown issue. Fever is stronger downlane in my opinion, but also quite a bit cleaner.
Also, I don't know why you are looking for something that is smooth, predictable, and still strong on drwr consitions. Should be looking for an After Dark Pearl or Twist (weaker of the two) and alter the surface. You need head oil to throw true urethane.
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You want to get more flare to avoid the carrydown issue. Fever is stronger downlane in my opinion, but also quite a bit cleaner.
Also, I don't know why you are looking for something that is smooth, predictable, and still strong on drwr consitions. Should be looking for an After Dark Pearl or Twist (weaker of the two) and alter the surface. You need head oil to throw true urethane.
Good points. Forgot the diff on the 16# being so much bigger on purple than 15. Agree totally urethane is for decent head oil and flying backends.
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For dry lanes I'd promote the pearl Tundra (basically ADP) because Track needs some love :D
But yeah, I can't play outside 10 or inside 10 on THS with the one urethane I have (C300 The Classic U2). Ouside 10, hooks at the arrows. Inside 10, not enough backend response. Does make a halfway decent spare ball at 3000 though. :P Short sport shot, sand it to 1000 and it would be a totally different story.
I guess I kinda can bounce it off the dry 30 feet down and get it to work, but it's ugly.