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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: Bowl_Freak on October 25, 2018, 11:46:31 AM

Title: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 25, 2018, 11:46:31 AM
http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/upper-mid-performance/web

http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/upper-mid-performance/web-tour-edition
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: SVstar34 on October 25, 2018, 11:54:59 AM
Plus these as well:

http://www.ebonite.com/products/balls/high-performance/impact

http://www.columbia300.com/products/balls/mid-level-performance/spoiler-alert
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: tkkshop on October 25, 2018, 12:12:38 PM
The Web Tour even looks like an IQ Tour.
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 25, 2018, 12:21:55 PM
The Web Tour even looks like an IQ Tour.

Yea... haha. Probably a decent ball if I had to guess.

The regular Web sounds like a rollout machine by their own description...
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: DP3 on October 25, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
EBI gets rid of Ronald Hickland as primary designer about 3-4 years ago.

His ball designs still make up the *majority* of their entire lineup across brands. LOL. 
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: billdozer on October 25, 2018, 01:44:14 PM
EBI gets rid of Ronald Hickland as primary designer about 3-4 years ago.

His ball designs still make up the *majority* of their entire lineup across brands. LOL. 

Dude. I think the same thing every day...
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: Juggernaut on October 25, 2018, 02:30:18 PM
EBI gets rid of Ronald Hickland as primary designer about 3-4 years ago.

His ball designs still make up the *majority* of their entire lineup across brands. LOL. 

Dude. I think the same thing every day...

 If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

 Make a ball with between .o30 and .o50 diff, and between 2.47 and 2.55 RG.
 Slap a proven cover on it, make it “pretty”, and it will sell.

 Rinse and repeat as necessary.

 YMMV.
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: DP3 on October 25, 2018, 02:43:00 PM
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

....therefore Mr. Hickland could/should(?) still be employed. Ebonite's public statement was "wanting to go a different direction in their equipment".

I guess that direction was get rid of the designer, rehash his core designs for the next 4 years, retro all of his best designs from the past 10-15 years, and poach the young staffers from every other company.

Rinse & Repeat is right my friend. You nailed it on that one.
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: Juggernaut on October 25, 2018, 04:03:03 PM
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

....therefore Mr. Hickland could/should(?) still be employed. Ebonite's public statement was "wanting to go a different direction in their equipment".

I guess that direction was get rid of the designer, rehash his core designs for the next 4 years, retro all of his best designs from the past 10-15 years, and poach the young staffers from every other company.

Rinse & Repeat is right my friend. You nailed it on that one.

 I’m not particularly supportive of Ebonite myself, and I am not taking anyone’s side in this, but.......

 I don’t know Mr. Hickland, nor do I know exactly why he was released, so I don’t know if he should still be employed or not. He worked for them and, if they thought it was time for him to go, for WHATEVER reason, then they had the right to make that happen.

 They ALL rehash old cores and covers. If they were developed while he was working for Ebonite, then they belong to Ebonite, not him, so they can freely rehash whatever they want to. As long as people are buying it, why not?

 As for poaching staffers, the staffers change companies like people change socks.

Very few have any brand loyalty, and little reason to stay if someone else makes them a better offer. Just look at Storm. They see somebody get really hot and doing really well, and soon you will see them wearing Storm gear and throwing Storm stuff.


 Sorry you are upset about Mr. Hicklands release. It may well have been unfair or unjust, but that’s just life most of the time.

 Shit happens in life, and it isn’t always fair shit. I’ve had my share, as has everyone else, including you, and Ron Hickland, I’m sure.
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: suhoney24 on October 25, 2018, 07:27:03 PM
With the web name I was definitely thinking something with the gas mask core
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: DP3 on October 25, 2018, 09:42:42 PM
Gas Mask core no flip cap to make it lower flaring like the Big Blue series would have been really cool. That's easy hype right there. People would eat it up. Web looks like a Rhodman Pearl on steroids.
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 26, 2018, 07:47:47 AM
Rhodman Pearl/Rhodman or the Bad A$$ on steroids
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: bowling4burgers on October 26, 2018, 09:41:08 AM
The Web Tour even looks like an IQ Tour.

Yea... haha. Probably a decent ball if I had to guess.

The regular Web sounds like a rollout machine by their own description...
Calling it now: "strong hook-set motion" according to every staffer. LOL
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on October 26, 2018, 10:25:39 AM
Gas Mask core no flip cap to make it lower flaring like the Big Blue series would have been really cool. That's easy hype right there. People would eat it up. Web looks like a Rhodman Pearl on steroids.

No branding expert but can see how they wouldn't want their big power core in a tour lower diff ball.  Be like having a Cell Tour ball (probably was one but too lazy to look).  Agree it would be cool though.
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: DP3 on October 26, 2018, 11:56:41 AM
The Big Blue Cores (Gasmask, no upper puck) had these numbers:

RG: 2.51
Differential: 0.026
I'm not sure what the Intermediate Diff was, but the Spin Times on the determinator back when I was drilling these was around 10-11 seconds so I would guess it's an Intermediate diff in the .008-.011 range.


Call it the Widow Tour/Widow Low Flare, release it *Black* Friday, count the Profits, and send DP3 $0.50/ball sold as royalties. Everyone's happy. ;D

Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: SVstar34 on October 26, 2018, 12:26:48 PM
The Big Blue Cores (Gasmask, no upper puck) had these numbers:

RG: 2.51
Differential: 0.026
I'm not sure what the Intermediate Diff was, but the Spin Times on the determinator back when I was drilling these was around 10-11 seconds so I would guess it's an Intermediate diff in the .008-.011 range.


Call it the Widow Tour/Widow Low Flare, release it *Black* Friday, count the Profits, and send DP3 $0.50/ball sold as royalties. Everyone's happy. ;D



Sign me up
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: tkkshop on October 26, 2018, 10:11:32 PM
The Big Blue Cores (Gasmask, no upper puck) had these numbers:

RG: 2.51
Differential: 0.026
I'm not sure what the Intermediate Diff was, but the Spin Times on the determinator back when I was drilling these was around 10-11 seconds so I would guess it's an Intermediate diff in the .008-.011 range.


Call it the Widow Tour/Widow Low Flare, release it *Black* Friday, count the Profits, and send DP3 $0.50/ball sold as royalties. Everyone's happy. ;D



Sign me up
the Big Blue Pearl was a monster for me. I'd buy another if they remade it.
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: Rightycomplex on October 27, 2018, 07:25:55 AM
The Big Blue Cores (Gasmask, no upper puck) had these numbers:

RG: 2.51
Differential: 0.026
I'm not sure what the Intermediate Diff was, but the Spin Times on the determinator back when I was drilling these was around 10-11 seconds so I would guess it's an Intermediate diff in the .008-.011 range.


Call it the Widow Tour/Widow Low Flare, release it *Black* Friday, count the Profits, and send DP3 $0.50/ball sold as royalties. Everyone's happy. ;D

I approve every piece of this lol. Gave them a couple of ideas in my report and this was is one to add.
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: DP3 on October 27, 2018, 10:23:41 AM
Make sure you send me tribute James. LOL!
Title: Re: Hammer Web & Web Tour Edition
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 27, 2018, 10:28:17 AM
Just watched some youtube videos on these 2. All i can say is boomerang.
I can see some huge scores being shot with these.