Post by: SUKIE on February 08, 2006, 11:06:09 PM
Post by: KDawg77 on February 09, 2006, 07:14:33 AM
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Oh splendid! This calls for a sexy party!
Post by: ten pin killler on February 09, 2006, 07:46:27 AM
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TPK .... A HammerHead with a touch of BuzzSaw
Could someone tell me where this "Great Wall of China" is???
Post by: SUKIE on February 09, 2006, 08:27:22 AM
Anyone have much luck dulling the cover or ??????????
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 08:35:20 AM
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This house changes the shot almost every nite. And it makes no diff as to what nite I bowl or house I bowl in. This all seemed to happen about 6 weeks ago. My Saw Blade still moves just fine. But 1 of my 2 black Pure Hammer's is starting to croak also. But they have a bunch of games on each of them. The Doom deal kinda makes me half mad with the way we take care of equiptment.
Anyone have much luck dulling the cover or ??????????
Before you freak out take the ball to another house and give it a try. You can also polish it with some ebonight polish and give it a nice shine. Have you ever polished it before? Does it look dull now?
Post by: SUKIE on February 09, 2006, 08:45:47 AM
Post by: KDawg77 on February 09, 2006, 08:45:50 AM
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Oh splendid! This calls for a sexy party!
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 08:59:26 AM
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 09:03:52 AM
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Already tried that. Did not seem to change anything.
What is it doing? This is happening at other houses? How is yours drilled? There has to be a reasonable explination. I find it hard to believe that the cover will only last 70 or 80 games and then just die. I have had particle balls last hundreds of games before needing a resurface. Ever pearl reactive ball I have ever had always leasted a very long time.
IF the ball has truley died then just resurface the ball it will be like new.
Post by: SUKIE on February 09, 2006, 09:08:58 AM
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 09:38:01 AM
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Like I said mine worked just fine untill about a dozen games ago. My son & team mates are at a loss. They can see no changes that I have made. Besides the saw blade is working just fine. I am lost.
What do you clean the bal with? How is your ball drilled?
Post by: SUKIE on February 09, 2006, 09:45:52 AM
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 10:09:17 AM
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Ebonite cleaner & Clean & Shine & have tried Clean & dull. Also Simple Green from time to time & wiped off with a wet towel. I have done this for years & had great results.
All I can suggest is to resurface the ball. This is make it be almost like new. I have about 40 games on mine and it is working great. This is one awesome ball in my opinion. I feel bad that yours is not working like it should. I will let you know what happens when I get about 20 more games on mine.
The only thing that I suggest that you do is bring it to a pro shop and let them resurface the ball. Then when you get it back put some magic shine polish on it. This ball will work after that I can almost guarantee it.
Post by: SUKIE on February 09, 2006, 11:49:43 AM
Post by: anotherwindup on February 09, 2006, 12:03:52 PM
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HHmm...another big E made coverstock Dies!!!!
SHOCKER!!!!
ahhhh, sigh!
Hammer covers are not made by Ebonite.
Balls made out of Hopkinsville, KY, have been thrown by the last 2 POY's on the PBA tour, and possibly the last 3 if Tommy Jones wins it this year.
If anything, the balls out of "Hoptown" are some of the best on the market right now. What ball is hotter than the ONE? the ROAD HAWG? Any?
So, if you are pessimistic about buying Ebonite and Hammer products, please don't. If you BOWL TO WIN, or want a ball that Hits like a Hammer, then please do buy one. For those of you that don't, well, don't be mad when Joe Bowler beats you with his new ball out of Hoptown!!
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Jason Jenkins
'05-'06 Hammer Amateur Staff
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Post by: KDawg77 on February 09, 2006, 12:21:06 PM
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Oh splendid! This calls for a sexy party!
Post by: anotherwindup on February 09, 2006, 02:35:25 PM
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Hammer covers are not made by Ebonite.
Balls made out of Hopkinsville, KY, have been thrown by the last 2 POY's on the PBA tour, and possibly the last 3 if Tommy Jones wins it this year.
Where do you think Ebonite balls are made????
They are one and the same company!!!
By the way....Tommy jones could win with a Urethane ball from 1980.
Im not saying that these are bad balls. But other than my V2 I have seen many ebonite balls die.
Just a question, Does it matter what you throw when you bowl in Decatur??? I figured that anything would work there as long as it was round.
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Ahhh, I see you know me. I knew that user name had to come from the Midwest.
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Where do you think Ebonite balls are made????
They are one and the same company!!!
You obviously missed the point of the post. Sarcasm. The balls are produced in the same plant, which Ebonite owns, but to say that they are the same company is incorrect. Again......Hammer and Ebonite do not share cores or covers, just a manufacturing plant.
A Decatur reference....funny.....I also bowl in Champaign.
You know me. I might as well know you.....who are you?
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Jason Jenkins
'05-'06 Hammer Amateur Staff
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 03:03:43 PM
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This rather concerns me if its true. I have one of these but haven't really used it that much because I was not liking the reactions I have been seeing with the ball. The ball is giving me the same reaction I was getting from the Pearl Sling blade which is slides too much if there is oil or carry down and not making it to the pocket or hitting the dry and turning too soon and missing the pocket.
I need to give the ball more time I guess before I do anything drastic. Was considering dulling the ball then repolishing it a bit or possibly have a weight hole put in to tame it a bit. Its drilled about 4.5 x 3.5. Or I may just sell it and be done with it. Oh it does hit well when it hits I just have trouble with getting it there. I had this same problem like i said with the sling blade finally had to let it go. Most of the balls I use to best effect seem to be polished reactive balls.
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Harrylegthigh
Your first paragraph says it all. Your not playing on the correct condition for this ball. First if this ball slides too much then there is too much oil for this ball. Next if your playing on a pattern that has a lot of carry down then once again your not playing on the right condition with this ball.
This ball is great for med fresh oil and light oiled lanes. Lanes that are heavily oiled are not for this ball. Also this is ball is not a good choice for carry down. Now if I come across carry down on a lighter oiled shot I just go around it if I can when using my Doom. If there is no way around the carry down then I put my Doom in the bag and use a stronger ball.
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 03:11:20 PM
I'm starting to notice that some bowlers are using this ball on conditions that it's not meant for. If this ball is sliding too much then why are you using it? That should be a direct indication that there is probably too much oil on the lanes for this ball.
I really feel there are a lot of bowleres using balls on the wrong conditions.
Post by: KDawg77 on February 09, 2006, 03:11:58 PM
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Oh splendid! This calls for a sexy party!
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 03:15:11 PM
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I don't know what to think. Since Ebonite bought Hammer I have bought a lot of there "stuff" & never had a problem like this untill this ball. Hammer has contacted me & told me to resurface the ball. I will have this done & see what happens next.
May be you just got 1 bad ball out of thousands? I don't know what to say. In fact why don't you bring it back to the pro shop and have the driller look at it. I'm sure if there is a problem with the cover they will replace it.
Now I remeber you saying that the cover looks great but it doesn't react. I find that kind of strange. Are you absoulty sure that your bowling on the correct condition? What exactly is the ball doing?
Post by: chitown on February 09, 2006, 03:56:40 PM
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Hey Chitown, I have read your reviews of the ball and been quiet on this because I thought well I haven't given the ball a fair shake but I guess its this over/under situation I am running into. In my regular league, we play a 4 game set. The first and second game I use either my 3 D Violet or a Visionary Violet with the 3 D being a bit grabbier. If I'm using the 3 D by the third game usually like to switch because its turning in to fast. If I go in with the Doom the ball either will slide past the break point or come in too soon. What I have been using with success is the 3 D Violet and then third game come in with a 3 D Tour which goes just a bit longer. I would of thought the Doom could have handled this but there is a little carry down by this time and I just seem to be either not making the turn or too soon. So thats why I am frustrated with it. I will try sanding with a green pad and then repolish to see if it changes for the better. If that doesn't help then out it goes.
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Harrylegthigh
I understand what your saying. I still feel your on the wrong conditions for this ball. Many peralized balls do not like carry down. If your on a conditions where it turns or skids then it's not the ball but the condition. Now some balls work great for those types of conditions and some balls don't.
For me I have had great results from the Doom on med and light conditions. If i'm on a condition that has a lot of carry down then I use a different ball. If your bowling on xtreme over under conditions then I would suggest using a different ball. Try the Doom on a different type of condition and see if it doesn'r work for you. If you still want it for the third game and the over and under is bad then just dull it too like 800 grit and use it like that.
Post by: anotherwindup on February 09, 2006, 04:20:35 PM
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You obviously missed the point of the post. Sarcasm. The balls are produced in the same plant, which Ebonite owns, but to say that they are the same company is incorrect. Again
Dude,
"Technically" they are owned by the same company Ebonite industries. Just like AMF, Track and Columbia 300 are part of Columbia industries.
I will say that the "ONE" has been a great ball from what I can see, and I have had Track stuff die too.
Actually I dont know you. You have your name in your signature. As far as the Decatur thing....NO dis-respect there, but it is one of the biggest CHINA towns around. So im not referring to your talent level. They wouldnt have put you on their staff if you were a TOE.
Its just been a CRAP day and I had a lil fun on here..
Hey, I have no problem with bad days. I have them too. I even have bad days on ballreviews.....just ask around. I have offended a few on here.
Decatur...actually wasn't a CHINA town until Pla-mor installed the new Lane Shield. Before that, the scores were very modest. After the installation, then the scores went through the roof. Sparetime and Schaeffer's are not as easy. Any way, unless you went to bowl.com and looked me up, how would you even know that I bowl in Decatur???
You obviously are from the midwest, possibly on Track staff, and bowl regionals. That is the only way that you would reference CHINA, TOE, and NMD. I also think you know me otherwise you wouldn't know about decatur. I am guessing you are from the Chicagoland area, possibly?
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Jason Jenkins
'05-'06 Hammer Amateur Staff
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Post by: anotherwindup on February 14, 2006, 08:48:19 AM
How is it working for you?
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Jason Jenkins
'05-'06 Hammer Amateur Staff
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Post by: SUKIE on February 14, 2006, 12:14:40 PM
Post by: chitown on February 15, 2006, 12:19:12 AM
Now about this oil being absorbed by the covers. I had a high rev 3-d off set by Hammer when they were Faball. I used this ball an entire league season and only cleaned it once. This was before I knew much about taking care of bowling balls. Well I had that ball for a very long time. I probably had 1000 games on it. It still worked great. I don't know what is wrong with your Doom but I have many games on mine and it works great. I don't think I will have any problems like you had. You must have just got a dud.
Post by: SUKIE on February 15, 2006, 02:38:31 PM