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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: EL3MCNEIL on November 12, 2014, 03:57:26 AM
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Does anyone know of any plans by Hammer to release a new heavy oil ball? I know Hammer has the Cold Blood, but it seems to be more of a medium oil ball and not a "true" heavy oil ball.
Just trying to see if there is any info out or something that maybe flowing through the grapevine.
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in the EBI line-up
the GB2 is plenty strong and a great ball.
i have had this conversation with several current folks in the know
i am better off with medium equipment and drilling it a little stronger, then adjusting with surface changes form there.
the really strong pieces just dont seem to be strong in the right part of the lane, and if it does happen to work, it wont for long as they change the oil pattern rather quickly.
I have a longer pin and rolly layout on my GB2 and its plenty strong, im sure i could go much stronger if i wanted to.
you are better off keeping the ball straighter in the front part of the lane and looking for motion further down the lane if possible
what conditions are you finding where you need a stronger piece?
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I'm looking for something more even rolling that starts up early. I obviously don't expect a hook monster in the oil, but a different look than the skid/flip look that hammer normally provides.
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Gamebreaker 2 is the ball you want
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I will say the hyper cell would be a much better choice. I have two drilled differently and have drill another dozen or so for clients. They roll early and heavy in long or heavy oil
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Just completed a 4 week ( 16 games ) stretch on the Badger pattern in my singles league. I averaged 217 using the Legend exclusively. I have always felt that many people don't really understand the dynamics of friction, or lack thereof when they look for so called heavy oil balls. Anything that starts early is not going to have the continuation to carry on heavy long oil. Balls like Nano, Sync, Mastermind were all worthless to me on heavy long oil. Couldn't carry corners to save my life with them
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Gamebreaker 2 - $110.00
Hypercell - $160.00
Gb2 is a great ball and for only 110 bucks its a phenomenal buy
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Ditto on the GB2. It was great in the soup for me at a recent Ebonite Demo Day.
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Not an ebi ball but I love the Rukus Fued and its very very strong
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i know someone in my league is using a legend with a ton of surface for the badger pattern and he doesn't do too bad. Might be the best option for right now?
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The gamebreaker is much cheaper, but will not come no where close to the hyper cell in heavy or long oil.I had the original gb and loved it, but it would just skate in the heavy stuff .On our pba league on Sunday mornings the hyper cell shines while the Gb2 couldn't keep up. Gb2 is better on 40ft or less and with some shine kills the cheetah !!
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i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to
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i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to
Playing on the Badger pattern my Legend goes damn near straight as an arrow. I have more movement with my Assassin, I have to square-up a bit, but it gets the job done. But I'm not looking to just get the job done, but get it done well.
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i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to
Playing on the Badger pattern my Legend goes damn near straight as an arrow. I have more movement with my Assassin, I have to square-up a bit, but it gets the job done. But I'm not looking to just get the job done, but get it done well.
The old Track Assassin?
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i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to
Playing on the Badger pattern my Legend goes damn near straight as an arrow. I have more movement with my Assassin, I have to square-up a bit, but it gets the job done. But I'm not looking to just get the job done, but get it done well.
The old Track Assassin?
Sorry, I meant the BW Assassin. I should have been more clear.
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My thinking to bowling on sport patterns with any equipment is to take the back end out of the equation to stop the over under. I've used a 2" pin to pap and this seems to do the trick and adjust the surface as needed.
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for me, i have been drilling 5" or longer pins
putting the pin in my middle finger is 5" pin-pap
this provides a predictable motion down lane for me on the sport pattens and some THS patterns
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There are several options right now in the current line:
Legend & Bad Ass with some surface adjustments will work just fine. I had a Cold Blood, but that ball was too early for me, so with the new Bad Ass (symmetrical core) I took one of mine down to 1000 surface & I love this ball (drilled 65 x 4 3/4 x 65 - pin down).
The ball you seek will be coming out in the near future - stronger cover yet very controllable in the backends - this is a ball that I have been waiting for a while now! Can't wait ~ info coming soon!
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Arson Low Flare solid??
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i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to
Playing on the Badger pattern my Legend goes damn near straight as an arrow. I have more movement with my Assassin, I have to square-up a bit, but it gets the job done. But I'm not looking to just get the job done, but get it done well.
The old Track Assassin?
Sorry, I meant the BW Assassin. I should have been more clear.
long oil is not heavy oil. the assassin probably performs better on long because it is cleaner and stores more energy downlane.
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There are several options right now in the current line:
Legend & Bad Ass with some surface adjustments will work just fine. I had a Cold Blood, but that ball was too early for me, so with the new Bad Ass (symmetrical core) I took one of mine down to 1000 surface & I love this ball (drilled 65 x 4 3/4 x 65 - pin down).
The ball you seek will be coming out in the near future - stronger cover yet very controllable in the backends - this is a ball that I have been waiting for a while now! Can't wait ~ info coming soon!
And just like clock work...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6D37SnB7rA
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its not a super strong piece
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its not a super strong piece
Not saying it's a strong piece, but that the video came up right after Plowboy said a new ball was being introduced.