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EL3MCNEIL

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Heavy Oil Ball
« on: November 12, 2014, 03:57:26 AM »
Does anyone know of any plans by Hammer to release a new heavy oil ball? I know Hammer has the Cold Blood, but it seems to be more of a medium oil ball and not a "true" heavy oil ball.

Just trying to see if there is any info out or something that maybe flowing through the grapevine.
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Dave81644

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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 03:30:39 PM »
in the EBI line-up
the GB2 is plenty strong and a great ball.

i have had this conversation with several current folks in the know
i am better off with medium equipment and drilling it a little stronger, then adjusting with surface changes form there.
the really strong pieces just dont seem to be strong in the right part of the lane, and if it does happen to work, it wont for long as they change the oil pattern rather quickly.

I have a longer pin and rolly layout on my GB2 and its plenty strong, im sure i could go much stronger if i wanted to.
you are better off keeping the ball straighter in the front part of the lane and looking for motion further down the lane if possible


what conditions are you finding where you need a stronger piece?
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EL3MCNEIL

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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 04:29:37 AM »
I'm looking for something more even rolling that starts up early. I obviously don't expect a hook monster in the oil, but a different look than the skid/flip look that hammer normally provides.
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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 05:48:57 AM »
Gamebreaker 2 is the ball you want
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luv2C10falll

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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 08:25:03 AM »
I will say the hyper cell would be a much better choice. I have two drilled differently and have drill another dozen or so for clients. They roll early and heavy in long or heavy oil
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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2014, 11:17:22 AM »
Just completed a 4 week ( 16 games ) stretch on the Badger pattern in my singles league.  I averaged 217 using the Legend exclusively.  I have always felt that many people don't really understand the dynamics of friction, or lack thereof when they look for so called heavy oil balls.  Anything that starts early is not going to have the continuation to carry on heavy long oil.  Balls like Nano, Sync, Mastermind were all worthless to me on heavy long oil.  Couldn't carry corners to save my life with them
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Dave81644

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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2014, 11:23:35 AM »
Gamebreaker 2 - $110.00
Hypercell - $160.00

Gb2 is a great ball and for only 110 bucks its a phenomenal buy
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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2014, 12:46:04 PM »
Ditto on the GB2. It was great in the soup for me at a recent Ebonite Demo Day.
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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2014, 01:20:05 PM »
Not an ebi ball but I love the Rukus Fued and its very very strong
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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2014, 01:32:16 PM »
i know someone in my league is using a legend with a ton of surface for the badger pattern and he doesn't do too bad. Might be the best option for right now?
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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2014, 02:08:22 PM »
The gamebreaker is much cheaper, but will not come no where close to the hyper cell in heavy or long oil.I had the original gb and loved it, but it would just skate in the heavy stuff .On our pba league on Sunday mornings the hyper cell shines while the Gb2 couldn't keep up. Gb2 is better on 40ft or less and with some shine kills the cheetah !!
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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2014, 11:38:14 PM »
i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to
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EL3MCNEIL

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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2014, 12:46:53 AM »
Quote from: cheech on November 14, 2014, 11:38:14 PM
i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to

Playing on the Badger pattern my Legend goes damn near straight as an arrow. I have more movement with my Assassin, I have to square-up a bit, but it gets the job done. But I'm not looking to just get the job done, but get it done well.
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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2014, 01:08:20 AM »
Quote from: EL3MCNEIL on November 15, 2014, 12:46:53 AM
Quote from: cheech on November 14, 2014, 11:38:14 PM
i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to


Playing on the Badger pattern my Legend goes damn near straight as an arrow. I have more movement with my Assassin, I have to square-up a bit, but it gets the job done. But I'm not looking to just get the job done, but get it done well.

The old Track Assassin?
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EL3MCNEIL

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Re: Heavy Oil Ball
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2014, 06:31:13 AM »
Quote from: northface28 on November 15, 2014, 01:08:20 AM
Quote from: EL3MCNEIL on November 15, 2014, 12:46:53 AM
Quote from: cheech on November 14, 2014, 11:38:14 PM
i dont understand what is wrong with a legend on a heavy oil house shot. just square up a bit if you have to


Playing on the Badger pattern my Legend goes damn near straight as an arrow. I have more movement with my Assassin, I have to square-up a bit, but it gets the job done. But I'm not looking to just get the job done, but get it done well.

The old Track Assassin?

Sorry, I meant the BW Assassin. I should have been more clear.
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