Post by: chitown on April 16, 2006, 03:25:13 AM
I have over a 100 games on my box condition Doom and it still reacts like new. It still looks like new. I maintain it well. I use factory finish polish and clean it with energizer cleaner after every set. I'm very pleased with how the cover is holding up with this ball.
I'm also looking forward to the new Raw Hammer Pain that is coming out. I'm set with my Doom arsenal but want to try the new Raw Hammer Pain if it has the same core as the Doom.
Post by: DanR on April 16, 2006, 08:19:46 PM
Post by: chitown on April 16, 2006, 11:15:22 PM
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The PAIN is stronger than the DOOM. The PAIN is much less under/over, more of a true roll and strong on the backend. All this info is from watching a teammate test the PAIN. Can't wait for the PAIN to be released.
Is the pain a solid reactive? Does it use the same core as the Doom? I'm guessing the pain is a solid version of the Doom. I could be wrong but that is what I exspect.
I wonder how much different it is compared to my dull Doom. My Dull Doom is drilled strong and dulled to 600 grit and this ball is a lot stronger over all than my Box cover Doom.
Post by: azguy on April 17, 2006, 06:48:34 AM
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Post by: ImaRedbird on April 17, 2006, 08:03:02 PM
Im dissappointed thought can we say number 4. 4 chances at a 300, after a while either imma get it or imma quit.
1st time shot back 11
2nd time struck up til the 4 frame got 7-10 split picked up the back 7
3rd time- shot front 6, lucky number 7, got my favorite friend the 1,2,5,10
finished with the back 5
4th time, struck the front 9, split in the 10th, picked it up and struck in the 12th.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
ok im good now.
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Post by: Noy on April 18, 2006, 02:17:59 AM
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Bowling Since March 2006
Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160
Post by: NINRH8R on April 18, 2006, 10:45:05 AM
Post by: splendorlex on April 18, 2006, 02:34:43 PM
Edited on 4/18/2006 2:33 PM
Post by: chitown on April 18, 2006, 04:46:14 PM
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hmm, lookin to resurface mine, doesnt react well under the conditions in play in. But what would you say its finish is? All I read is polished finish, what would be its equivalent in grit?
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Bowling Since March 2006
Arsenal:
Doom Raw Hammer
House Ball (spares)
Average: 130-160
The box cover on the Doom is 1000 grit abralon finish and polished with factory finish polish. To maintain the shiny cover and box condition just use ebonites factory finish polish.
If you want the Doom for heavy oil just dul it to 600 grit and it will hook a lot more on a flood. Great ball and responds great to cover changes.
Post by: ImaRedbird on April 18, 2006, 06:01:53 PM
chitown, when i get my doom resurfaced to get those nicks and slashes out the ball, what should i do to restore it back to box finish?
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Post by: jnobcrew on April 21, 2006, 06:02:55 PM
Post by: ImaRedbird on April 21, 2006, 06:07:30 PM
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Post by: chitown on April 21, 2006, 08:57:57 PM
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splendor-nope they were real this time.
chitown, when i get my doom resurfaced to get those nicks and slashes out the ball, what should i do to restore it back to box finish?
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Edited on 4/18/2006 6:01 PM
Well to bring it back to box finish you need a ball spinner. Dull the ball to 1000 grit with ethier abrolan or scotch brite. Then use Ebonites Factory Finish polish. The factory finish will bring it back to box condition. Then use Ebonites energizer cleaner. This will give it the tacky feeling.
That's it. It is very easy to bring this ball back to box finish. Just make sure when using the polish with a spinner that you apply a little pressure to really make the ball shine like new.
Once the ball is back to box condition you can use the factory finish every 6 games to keep it looking new. The maintance can be done by hand.
Post by: ImaRedbird on April 21, 2006, 09:02:08 PM
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Getting Zero is an accomplishent that you should be proud of!!!
Post by: FastTracker33 on April 22, 2006, 11:17:26 AM
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Post by: duvallite on April 22, 2006, 03:58:34 PM
SCOTCHBRITE GRIT CHART (courtesy of Charlest)
3M Scotch Brite Nylon Pads:
7445 - White pad, called Light Duty Cleansing - (1000) 1200-1500 grit
7448 - Light Grey, called Ultra Fine Hand - (600-800) 800 grit.
6448 - Green (?), called Light Duty Hand Pad - (600) 600 grit
7447 - Maroon pad, called General Purpose Hand - (320-400) 320 grit
6444 - Brown pad, called Extra Duty Hand - (280-320) 240 grit
7446 - Dark Grey pad, called Blending Pad (180-220) 150 grit
7440 - Tan pad, called Heavy Duty Hand Pad - (120-150) 60(?)
Green Scotch Brite is available EVERYWHERE. It's 600 grit.
Blue Scotch-Brite is considered to be about 1000 grit.
(The value inside the parentheses is directly from 3M.)
3M Chart
Less Aggressive --------> More Aggressive
7445 7448 6448 7447 6444 7446 7440
Finer Finish --------> Coarser Finish
Post by: duvallite on April 22, 2006, 04:06:26 PM
How would an OOB Doom work on medium synthetics with some carrydown? Our mixed league pushes oil everywhere. Does it require clean backends to perform? If so, would a surface change to 600-800 work well without killing the original performance design of the ball? Also, how would an OOB Doom compare to an OOB Track Crunch Time?
Post by: Jesse James on April 24, 2006, 09:16:33 AM
The Doom is substantially stronger than a CrunchTime....but not nearly as smooth. I have my Doom drilled 5.5"x 5, which I consider a very weak drill..and it is awesome. Tremendous hit and carry nonetheless. When I first got this ball, carrydown was NEVER an issue. That's why I'm going to purchase another, dull it and get a stronger drill on it....to see what kind of monster I get from that!
Post by: chitown on April 24, 2006, 09:29:16 AM
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Chitown or anyone,
How would an OOB Doom work on medium synthetics with some carrydown? Our mixed league pushes oil everywhere. Does it require clean backends to perform? If so, would a surface change to 600-800 work well without killing the original performance design of the ball? Also, how would an OOB Doom compare to an OOB Track Crunch Time?
An OOB Doom works great on med long oil synthetics with cleab back ends. Carrydown may cause you problems. Now if you change the cover to a duller surface then carrydown is not a problem anymore.
I have 3 Dooms. 2 of them are drilled the same Pin above the bridge(5.5" from pap) with the cg kicked right to 1oz and no balance hole. 1 of them is box condition and the other is at 1000 grit dulled with a blue scotchbrite pad. I tokk the ball down to green (600 grit) then brought it back up to 800 grit with a grey pad then finished with a blue 1000 grit pad.
My 1000 grit dulled Doom works great on shots with carrydown. It has a little more mid lane grab than the box Doom. It is also a little more smooth on the back end than the box Doom. There is not 1 oz of performance loss from changing the cover to a duller surface.
I also have a Doom drilled stacked leverage with the pin above the finger to pap line. I have this ball dulled to 600 grit. I use this ball for heavy oil. This ball has less back end but a lot more mid lane than the other 2. Even with the dull surface and strong drill it strill hits very hard and carry's great.
If you have any more questions just let me know.
Oh the CT from Track compared to this ball? Actually I do feel they are similar in a way. I used to have 2 CT's. The CT was a great ball but I feel the Doom is better in every way. Basically a better more powerful version of the CT.
Edited on 4/24/2006 9:33 AM
Post by: duvallite on April 24, 2006, 04:57:07 PM