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EboHammer4ever

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Question about Jeff Ussery's layout method
« on: May 24, 2011, 11:12:33 PM »
Hi everyone.  I was hoping to get a little insight here.  I have a question about Mr. Ussery's layout method as he shows in the videos.  Now I have been using the degree method to layout balls for a few years and I'm pretty good at it and know what different drill angles will get me...but Mr. Ussery now includes the pin buffer after he has his desired pin distance and drill angle determined.  My question is is there a chart that tells you what should see bases on say a 2 1/4" pin buffer versus a 4" pin buffer and so on and so forth?  I want to say I remember that smaller pin buffers with cause the ball to react quicker to the friction and longer pin buffers will react slower to the friction...am I correct?  

 

Just looking for some quidance on this topic because its not mentioned in Hammer drill sheets and I also have heard of a new technique that Ebonite has for laying out balls...but I haven't seen anything like that.

 

Thanx guys.

 

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Re: Question about Jeff Ussery's layout method
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 07:36:08 AM »
That's my understanding of the effect of pin buffer distance.  There was a nice video in either the Storm or Roto Grip archives at their site that shows PDW throwing two of the same model ball, drilled pin up but with different pin buffer lengths.  The short one reacted much quicker than the longer one  



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Re: Question about Jeff Ussery's layout method
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 07:47:00 AM »
The pin buffer is what Storm/Roto have used on their layout guides for a few years now, and Mo Pinel uses the VAL angle. Either way, the idea is just that yes, the closer you put the pin to the VAL, the quicker the ball will rev up when it encounters friction. If you keep the pin to PAP distance at 4", a 1" pin buffer will give you a very, very strong motion at the breakpoint while a 4" pin buffer will rev up more gradually and give you a smoother reaction.



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Re: Question about Jeff Ussery's layout method
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 07:57:58 AM »
Thanx guys...thats just what I thought.  I will have to play around with this some more.

 

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Re: Question about Jeff Ussery's layout method
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 06:58:02 PM »
Why can't someone put up a set of instructions with pics for us people that have not seen it done with pin buffers?



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Re: Question about Jeff Ussery's layout method
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 07:10:03 PM »
thats what i'm saying....just looking for something.

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Re: Question about Jeff Ussery's layout method
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 07:13:55 PM »
Check out one of Storm's layout guides. It shows you diagrams of how to use the pin buffer layout method. See if that helps clarify things. http://www.stormbowling.com/drill-specs/PSA_Lightning_Stikes.pdf



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Re: Question about Jeff Ussery's layout method
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 08:13:43 PM »
Pin buffer and val angles all equate to the same conclusion, but in a different method! It's like saying I have a half dozen or I have 6 of something. If you lay a ball out with a 20 degree val angle just measure the distance to your val and you have your pin buffer. When I use a 25 degree val angle it's about a 1-1/2" pin buffer. A 20 degree val angle is close to a 1" pin buffer. It's just two different pathes to the same location, just whatever you're comfortable with. You can incorporate both drilling methods into one if you want and it looks like that's what Jeff has done. Just my $.02, Bruce


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