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Author Topic: Just picked up my BWP tonight and used for league (pix including drill pattern)  (Read 3307 times)

bowler007

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Paid a premium at the pro shop, but the guys were friendly and pretty knowledgeable.  I originally intended to get the regular black widow in a 16#, but they would've had to order it and I've been suffering from Ball Acquisition Disorder (B.A.D.)

Since it's my birthday I decided to go ahead and pickup the BWP in a 15# and have it drilled for the league games I bowled tonight.  I got 15# because the guy was telling me that 16# might actually be too much for that ball and I'd likely get a little more pin action off the 15# since it would deflect a little better than a 16#.  I really wasn't sure, but it sounded good and again... I was suffering from B.A.D.  They got done drilling it just as my first game with my old Ebonite Matrix TPS III was coming to a close.  I also had them scuff it up a little bit because I wanted slight more hook.  We have light - med. oily lanes and they thought that would be good.  Turns out I'd like just a little more hook, so I'll probably have them scuff it some more.

Got to use it in 2nd and 3rd games and it's quite a little bit of a change.  I don't have a lot of revs on the ball, so it doesn't hook in like the video I saw someone else here just recently post, but it does turn left nicely and I really did get some good pin action.  During one frame my whole team thought I was going to leave a 6-7-10 split, but the 7 somehow managed to fall giving everyone the impression of just an easy spare pickup, but when the 7 fell it hit another pin which swung into the 6, knocked it back and killed the 10 with it.  Strike, yay!    I do get to throw it a little bit more outside and watch it come back in versus the Ebonite which was straight down about the 33 board or so and watch it hook into the pocket [hopefully].  

Anyways, feel free to ask questions and here are the links to the pix below.  Warning to 56k'ers they are full sized 6MP pictures.

http://home.comcast.net/~dustinhatcher/BlackWidow1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~dustinhatcher/BlackWidow2.jpg
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splendorlex

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My only advice would be to NOT scuff a ball before you've even throw it.  If what you wanted was the big, booming backend hook, scuffing it could actually REDUCE that hook.  Sure, heavily experienced guys mess with cover preps right away, but I think for many it's a better idea to see what the balls going to do first before you start altering it.
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bowler007

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Oh I already thew during league games.  I intend to practice a little more with it, but I've got a pretty good idea of what I want it to do and how to get it there.  
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splendorlex

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Well, I"m just saying you said you had them scuff it - "I also had them scuff it up a little bit because I wanted slight more hook" - there's a good chance that reduced the backend hook.
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Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Salnicker with the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got a, an informal report, that a member of your team, uh, Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true of course, it contravenes a number of the league's by-laws, and article 27 of the league...

I invented America.

Proud member of the Track Legion, though I'm seeing other companies on the side.  

bowler007

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Hmmmm that's weird.  Everything I've been reading and getting up to date on basically says shiny = less hook (especially with the more oil you're on) and particle/dull surface = greater traction through oil and better hook.  Is there somewhere I can read more about this stuff?  Or do I just keep plugging away here on the forum?
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Well basically this is what it is..

Shiny Balls = Greater Length, Harder Backend, but Less overall boards being covered in oil.

Dull Balls = Earlier Read, Reduced Backend, but More overall boards being covered in oil.

I hope this helps
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bowler007

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What do you guys mean when you say backend hook as opposed to just a "hook?"  I'm still learning some of the lingo around here.  
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The "backend hook" is the ball's hook from the backend part of the lane. Shiny balls have a "backend hook" where dull balls have more of a "mid-lane hook" .. hope this helps. Ask any other questions you want, and i'll be glad to answer to my best.

EDIT: Sorry CMDBowler just summed it up too. He just typed his a little faster than I! lol
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Edited on 6/20/2007 11:45 AM

Strapper_Squared

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quote:

I do get to throw it a little bit more outside and watch it come back in versus the Ebonite which was straight down about the 33 board or so and watch it hook into the pocket [hopefully].  




What?  33 board = somewhere between 6th and 7th arrow.  I'm not sure playing straight down it would allow the ball to hook to the pocket (unless you are throwing a back-up ball)?  

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bowler007

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Between 6th and 7th arrow sounds about right.  

With my Ebonite I tend to aim for that area and it generally rolls straight down the lane and when it gets to the back end it hooks right into the pocket (assuming I did everything correctly ).

[Edit] Just looked at an image of a lane and I lied.  I'd say about the 30th board or 6th arrow (maybe sometimes the 31 board depending on how I'm doing that night).
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Edited on 6/20/2007 12:06 PM

splendorlex

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Are you a righty or a lefty?
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Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Salnicker with the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got a, an informal report, that a member of your team, uh, Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true of course, it contravenes a number of the league's by-laws, and article 27 of the league...

I invented America.

Proud member of the Track Legion, though I'm seeing other companies on the side.  

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Righty.
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splendorlex

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Are you counting the arrows from the right or from the left?
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Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Salnicker with the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got a, an informal report, that a member of your team, uh, Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true of course, it contravenes a number of the league's by-laws, and article 27 of the league...

I invented America.

Proud member of the Track Legion, though I'm seeing other companies on the side.  

bowler007

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Counting boards and arrows from left to right.
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If your right handed count from the right, left handed count from the lefy.You are bowling second arrow not sixth.Now people will understand and be able to help you better.