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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: htotheizzo3561 on January 13, 2016, 09:23:24 AM
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were posted earlier but now have been taken down
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.... Interesting the Scandal shows the White House lol corrupt
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Did they remodel the White House?
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That definitely the capital building..not the white house lol.
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Whatever they had up on their site has apparently been pulled. Nevertheless, BW Dark Legend sounds intriguing. I'll probably still go Warrior/Warrior Elite, but the BWDL is definitely worth having a look.
BL.
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Man, Kentucky is doing a great job, minus the scandal ball...meh.
Dat dark legend. They should do a paradox widow for the US!
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Man, Kentucky is doing a great job, minus the scandal ball...meh.
Dat dark legend. They should do a paradox widow for the US!
read that the scandal is going to be a beast
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got to toss these a few days ago
the scandal is an absolute monster, any rev challenged bowler will get one of these, anyone can stand in a wheel it with that thing, carry's like no other
the BWDL is an interesting piece, it has decent midlane now with a new cover design and that same booming backend
Incredible stuff coming out of Hopkinsville these days
there are a few other ones that are really good as well,
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Man, Kentucky is doing a great job, minus the scandal ball...meh.
Dat dark legend. They should do a paradox widow for the US!
Well lookey here...
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Believe its generic core and 11lbs only. If you throw that weight well jackpot.
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Believe its generic core and 11lbs only. If you throw that weight well jackpot.
Why make a 11lb widow with a paradox cover?
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Get rid of some excess product. Overseas distributors get low weight stuff special runs more then I would have expected.
I had a "Track Synergy ETS" overseas ball released years after the original. It was a Columbia Scout, exact color and finish when compared side by side. Even emailed Track about it and the response was its "similar" to a Columbia scout… I sold it ASAP.
Easy way to make some additional sales. Many times on overseas releases they change the name and color and box finish but leave everything else the same.
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Ryan with Seismic said the 11 lb international stuff was for the "spinner" release bowlers.
edit for correction
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When Thomas was still with 900G, he said the 11 lb international stuff was for the "spinner" release bowlers.
That makes sense.. drive and strong continuation through the pins isn't the type of reaction spinners have nor need.
BL.
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When Thomas was still with 900G, he said the 11 lb international stuff was for the "spinner" release bowlers.
That makes sense.. drive and strong continuation through the pins isn't the type of reaction spinners have nor need.
BL.
Ive edited my post. Ryan Press with Seismic made this statement, not Thomas from 900G.
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What are the covers on these
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i Forgot to take a picture of scandal but if i remeber the cover is rated 10 finish 8.5 core 9 = 27.5. rg was like 2.48 i forgot wat diff was.
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Is the Scandal symmetric or asymmetric?
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Is the Scandal symmetric or asymmetric?
symmetric from what I heard
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Hopefully it will sell better than intentions,I actually like the Bad Azz, I believe the Dark Legend is supposed to be a Hybrid cover that was on the USA limited edition Widow, I liked the limited very strong just not a skid/flip reaction u normally get from a pearl,like the Red legend pearl is.
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Threw the Scandal yesterday. It is a big hooking ball. One of the strongest overall hooks I have seen in a while. Carry is real good and yes it is the Capital on the logo with the name. Shot 279 right off the press with it on a THS last night. 750 for the set.
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Videos are up.
Scandal:
Black Widow Dark Legend:
Initial thoughts: BWDL is basically the BW Limited, Hybrid version of the Semtex cover, same finish. With being 2 - 3 more boards inside of the BWRL, there isn't much difference here that I see on the whole, though it does look like a cross between a Taboo Jet Black and a Purple Vibe.
Scandal: Looks impressive. Barta's pin-up ball looks to have some polish on it, while pin down looks OOB. if the BWDL is 2 - 3 boards inside the BWRL, the Scandal is 2 - 3 boards inside the BWDL. That for a symmetric piece is impressive. FCC rating is 27.75, with the cover being a 10.
Though it is asymmetric, I'd love to see the Scandal compared to the Warrior Elite.
Finally, I'd take those shoes.
BL.
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my flyer says symmetric core
and holy toledo! does this thing hook, oddly gets through the heads for being such a monster
much better than the Bad Intentions..
As far as the BW dark Legend, I did not care for for the past pieces with this core, just didnt match up well at all.
This one is different, has more3 midlane and still the booming backend depending on layout
this one will be a keeper so far from what I am seeing
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my flyer says symmetric core
and holy toledo! does this thing hook, oddly gets through the heads for being such a monster
much better than the Bad Intentions..
As far as the BW dark Legend, I did not care for for the past pieces with this core, just didnt match up well at all.
This one is different, has more3 midlane and still the booming backend depending on layout
this one will be a keeper so far from what I am seeing
I should have made it more specific; my apologies. With the Warrior Elite being asymmetric, I'd love to see that ball compared to the Scandal.
BL.
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How will Dark Legend compare to the Legend
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DL has more midlane because of the new cover
its more arcing before the move off the friction
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Figured as much,I have the limited it stronger in midlane but Red legend pearl has more backend and skid/flip
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its a bit more than the limited from what I was told at the latest seminar
that ball so popular and, well, limited- that they had to follow it up with this one
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Threw the Scandal yesterday. It is a big hooking ball. One of the strongest overall hooks I have seen in a while. Carry is real good and yes it is the Capital on the logo with the name. Shot 279 right off the press with it on a THS last night. 750 for the set.
I have too much stuff to get excited about new releases, but I threw my Scandal for the first time today, and the ball is the real deal. It's one of the most impressive symmetric heavy oilers I've thrown. I haven't been a big fan of Hammer, but the Scandal is going to raise some eyebrows.
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Drilled and threw the Dark Legend last night during league. Great looking ball. 4.5" pin to pap, pin down. Roughly 50 x 4.5 x 60 just eye balling the angles.
This is a lot of ball, more then I expected. Gives me the reaction I was wanting. Was in playing a little deeper then expected to start and moved in further as the night went on pretty quickly. Ball has good length and really digs in and makes a strong move down lane. Fist BW ball so I can't compare it to any of the others. I like what I have seen so far.
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I agree I have one drilled pin above bridge, I like this one alot more than the original Legend has more midlane and more continuous I was surprised and very impressed with the motion
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How does the Dark Legend compare or relate to the Bad Intentions Hybrid?
I have just gotten back into bowling after a long break. Ive ordered an all Hammer line: BI Hybrid, BWDL, BW Assassin, and Skulz. This should be sufficient for league and tournaments.
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I'm definitely looking for a comparison between the Warrior Elite and the Scandal, if not between the Warrior and the Scandal.
I was about to pull the trigger on the Warrior Elite, but am wondering on if I get both, if I should slot the Scandal below the Elite, and if there would be any overlap between them.
Has anyone who has thrown both have a feel for how those three would stack up against eachother?
BL.
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I would slot the Scandal above the Elite and the Warrior below the elite. The biggest difference is not the overall hook but when they hook. I also listed these from earliest to longest.
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according to the demo days I was at a few months ago, the Scandal is the biggest hooking ball ever produced by them
It comes 2000 dull I believe and that is what was on it for demo days
I have above average hand and I had to be 20 or deeper to use it on a house shot
add some polish and it would be better for ME..
I already have the Paradox - so i do not need another heavy oiler ball
If I didn't have that, I would definitely get a Scandal
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TheOtherTomJones - The Dark Legend is more angular down the lane than the Bad Intentions Hybrid, and it is a different type of motion. The BI Hybrid is a tad rolly compared to the Dark Legend... The Dark Legend is the closest reaction to the original Black Widow... I LOVE this ball compared to the recent Legends...
Bradl - the motion between the Scandal & Warrior Elite are different. the Warrior Elite for me gets down the lane a little cleaner and stronger down the lane than the Scandal. The Scandal hooks earlier and still reads the mids & strong backend continuation down the lane... Scandal is a WOW ball motion - about 3 boards stronger than the Paradox for me, which is amazing to see!
Hope this helps...
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Bradl - the motion between the Scandal & Warrior Elite are different. the Warrior Elite for me gets down the lane a little cleaner and stronger down the lane than the Scandal. The Scandal hooks earlier and still reads the mids & strong backend continuation down the lane... Scandal is a WOW ball motion - about 3 boards stronger than the Paradox for me, which is amazing to see!
Hope this helps...
This definitely helps. This gives me the choice of cleaner through the heads or earlier rolling on the fresh, ball down to the Warrior when the lanes start to transition, and leaves my BWRL for the medium/drier conditions. I'm liking that.
Thanks!
BL.
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had my dark drilled this morning. threw it first game in league tonight had 258 with 2 ringing ten pins. the condition might have been a little to heavy at first but this ball rolled great very smooth and really hit hard.