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sunsetlefty

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No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« on: December 02, 2006, 09:12:08 AM »

Hammer guys, I have a 15 lb. 4 0z. No Mercy that I laid out. Some of my specs: lefty, PAP 5 3/8 over by 1/2 up. Medium rev rate, high track. This layout would be close to the Hammer #1 suggestion. However, this ball actually has the CG slightly to the right of the Pin/Hart line. This would be great for a righty, maybe not for a lefty. However, the way that I have it laid out still keeps the CG in the correct quadrant for a lefty.

There are 2 photos of the layout. The other photo is of my little home pro shop setup that I have put together.

Helpful suggestions/responses welcome! Thanks!

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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2006, 05:19:19 PM »
Im not really sure what the problem is with the layout. That entire layout looks correct. Hammer says that it is OK to have negative weight, and in fact they incourage you to have negative weight in the No Mercy's just so that you arent afraid to put the MB in ur track (if CG is out of line to the right). I think that since you have a high track, that this is a good layout...thats is to say that where u placed the MB is actually where ur track is...it seems to me that the MB would be drilled out with ur thumb hole...but then again you track high...Let us know how it turns out.
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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2006, 05:59:52 PM »
Put the CG directly in the center of your grip to lower the hart a little more.
My NM tracks about 3/4" lower than my BW.I have my NM layed out almost the same way (except I am right handed) and the HART misses the track. Gonna get it plugged and re drilled.

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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2006, 06:11:30 PM »
nonachorman, thank you for your response..... an intelligent opinion. Did you mean that your NM is currently layed out the same way as my pictures (in regards to lefty/ righty)?  What reaction did you witness with your NM drilled with the the Hart just missing your track? Thanks again!

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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2006, 10:15:17 PM »
I'd also suggest the CG lower. I also noticed my track lowered than on any other ball I have. Release has not changed, I think it's the ball, lowering the track by the way it is. Might sound strange to most, but I do believe this. Every N/M I have drilled for customers say the tracks appear to be lowered. Some more than others but lower none the less.
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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2006, 11:01:02 PM »
I find it interesting that Hammer wants people to drill basically a label drilling, putting the mb in the track.  Does it still give good length along with decent backend?  If you wanted to go longer would you just place the pin higher?  Is this ball more aggressive with this somewhat control drilling, or is it they find this is the best layout?

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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2006, 05:34:55 AM »
OK, I'll start fresh and layout the ball with the CG lowered and in the grip center. Thanks to all that replied!
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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2006, 06:10:49 AM »
Good Luck with it. This is a great ball, going to drill a second for myself, I think, if I don't drill a Toxic. Still tossing a coin on that one.
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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2006, 12:43:17 PM »
rick, my long time ball driller finally quit the business. This forced me to look elsewhere, and that's when I decided to put together my own shop.

I searched the web, E-bay, local auctions, the newspaper, talked to local bowling centers and pro shops, and just basically kept my eyes and ears open. For anyone out there attempting to do this, be aware that there are a lot of people selling JUNK as equipment, and will be happy to take your money. It's up to you to do your homework on what you want to put together.

I do have some extras that I might put on E-bay. I actually have 2 extra Rudell  bowling ball jigs. I'm rebuilding them right now (because I will not sell JUNK). I also have a 40 piece carbide drill bit set (that I'm having professionally sharpened) that I'll also sell. And, I have an almost new Bevel Sander, a very nice quarter scale, and a COMPLETE Brunswick Customatic Ball Fitting System (this is the old style with the bowling ball that has about 40 holes in it, and weights/finger inserts.

If anyone is interested, PM me. Again, I struggled to get my stuff right, and I'm not going to sell JUNK out there to the serious bowler. Thanks for your comments.

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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2006, 12:46:39 PM »
Bowled with it today again, second time out. How strong of a reaction are you looking for on the backend? Mine is drilled with CG directly in the center of my grip. HART left of thumb about an inch and about 1/2-3/4 of an inch below. For me it goes a little longer than my Black widow and comes back pretty hard in the backend.

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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2006, 03:11:31 PM »
Thanks for the info, azguy.  So put the pin a little higher for more length.  I'm a rev dominant bowler w/slow speed (15mph) and that #1 drilling normally would promote skid and medium backend.  I like the label drill myself, it gives me good length w/good area, yet a controllable breakpoint.  This ball looks interesting for medium lanes, I'm looking at this ball as a good ball to not be too jumpy, yet have a strong backend.

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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2006, 03:15:59 PM »
Sunsetlefty

Just to let you know. I measured up my PAP on both my BW and NM after bowling today and before cleaning and here were the results.

BW 5 1/8" over 3/4" up
NM 4" over 1 3/8" up

So the NM for some reason drops your track about an inch

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Re: No Mercy drilling - check the pictures
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2006, 04:29:01 PM »
nonanchorman, I have had this same thing happen with other balls before. With my PAP (5/38 over by 1/2 up) it seems that if I place a pin position below my fingers on a ball with a flippy core design, the bow tie drops. However, it's never been a problem as far as clipping any finger holes. With the NM, I'm thinking that this is layout will lower my bow tie, and is what I'm looking for.

Thanks again for the information.

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