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Title: No Mercy Review
Post by: Long Roller on October 21, 2006, 10:41:15 AM
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I threw it tonight on older wood lanes with a 38' house shot and a good amount of oil.  I will start by saying that this ball is not a hook monster like it is advertised as.  My 357 magnum had about the same breakpoint but cover 3-5 more boards on the backend and a much more pronounced move to the pocket.  The No Mercy had a soft arc of the point and when it hit the dry boards it carried very well.  When I missed left and put it in the oil, it sat and deflected off the head pin leaving 10 pins.  When I missed right it hooked much earlier and rolled out again leaving 10 pins.  I would be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed off of its first showing.  I will update throwing on a couple different shots.  Feel free to pm me if you have any other questions.
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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: DanR on October 21, 2006, 06:53:51 PM
I think the surface maybe too smooth out of box if hwne the ball us surpose to be a hook monster.  I compared the 2 ball in the shop and one was duller than the other.  I plan on changing the surface for the heavier oil patterns.
Teammate used it league with his with less sheen the ones in the shop and it hooked more than the Black Widow
Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: bgh on October 21, 2006, 07:14:11 PM
Sometimes, the NO MERCY can be on the bowler's end and not at the pins.
Rumor has it that Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal Lecter) eats these bowling balls for breakfast.
The ad in the new BTM November issue is well... to say the least Hammer has a terrific sense of humor, the review looks good also.
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Edited on 10/21/2006 7:12 PM
Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: wulfpackbwlr on October 21, 2006, 09:53:42 PM
Long Roller, your review is the complete opposite of what I witnessed from the pro shop owner i help out.  He drilled his like the #1 drilling and from what I saw and what he said he's not been able to play that deep with a ball in a long time.  He has med-low revs and was able to pretty much play where he wanted with it.  What does it look like after drilling as I'm thinking I may have looked at the lines for the layout incorrectly.
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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: Long Roller on October 21, 2006, 09:55:39 PM
Got that layout approved by Brian Graham so try again.
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Shane Soule
Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: wulfpackbwlr on October 21, 2006, 10:01:42 PM
Was just a comment and a request.  Not stating you were wrong on what you experienced.  Just stating it was opposite of what I saw in person myself.
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All Dyno-Thane
Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: Long Roller on October 21, 2006, 10:03:34 PM
I have only thrown this 2 games and some balls need a breakin period and that is what I am hoping for.  I will post back after a couple more sets and give an update.  I'm just warning not to run out and buy one if your looking for a hook monster that is going to out turn the BW.
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Shane Soule
Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: Long Roller on October 22, 2006, 10:18:50 AM
ttt
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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: alzgarvin on October 22, 2006, 04:59:39 PM
Longroller....   What weights did you end up with and did you use a weight hole. Did you use the 4 inch pin and Hart in track? I threw this ball at a sneak peek and is definitely a board or two stronger than the demo widow with pin above bridge and mb right of thumb with the suggested #1 No Mercy drill. The demo No Mercy however did not have an out of line cg so with drill #1 with pin around ring and HART in track cg was still close to palm center.  It sounds like your ball would be a great lefty set up. My demo ball was out of line with cg left of pin to hart a whopping 1 3/4 inch. I also talked with Brian Graham and he agreed this would be wonderful for a lefty #1 drill. For a righty the best we could do with mine would be a #2 drill with pin next to ring (approx. 4 " PAP ) and HART just to right of thumb...which is 2 boards weaker but still very strong.           Alzgarvin
Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: RevLefty on October 22, 2006, 06:09:41 PM
I totally agree, this is no a hook monster.  I drilled this in the number 1 layout and it was only a little sooner than my domination on a med house shot.  This ball is totally no what they advertise and I wil not buy another hammer unti they start making some qualtiy stuff,  I was a hammer fanatic when they reintroduced themselves a few years back but i dont like whre they are going with their product in the last couple of years.
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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: Long Roller on October 22, 2006, 06:11:49 PM
I think this ball could fit into someones lineup easily, but will be disappointed if they are looking to cover 30 boards.
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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: TerryV on October 22, 2006, 08:47:55 PM
I just drilled this ball up this past thursday. I used the drill spec #1. This ball held up to what I expected out of it. I saw an earlier roll out of it, and a strong and continuous back end. Even on the fresh oil I saw this. I was pleased whith how it rolled for me. I saw this ball about three boards or so stronger then my RS-X at 1000 with the CG about 2-3" off the center of grip and pin up above the ring. I was also able to use this ball as I opened up the lanes a bit simply by moving left some. I missed right a couple times and then actuly wanted to put the ball out a bit and it came back with out question with plenty of pop at the pocket. This ball does hook. AT least for me it covers some boards.
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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: jkiser01 on October 22, 2006, 09:02:00 PM
TerryV,

I agree with you. I drilled my No Mercy about a week ago and have used it about 10-12 games so far and I really like it. I used the #1 suggested drilling and this ball does cover some boards, I will tell you that. Please remember, the box finish on this ball is 4000 abralon so if you want more hook, take it down to 1000 and watch this thing go..

I am looking forward to playing around with the surface some more to get the exact reaction I am looking for..
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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: TOON on October 22, 2006, 10:21:04 PM
I have one too, drilled with layout #1.  With only a couple of games on it, I really love it.  

Anyone that does not like theirs can contact me about selling theirs!
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TOON
Proud to be a HAMMERHEAD!!

Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: chitown on October 24, 2006, 11:52:48 PM
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After watching the vid of this ball and the Black Widow how can one not want this ball? I just made up my mind. I buying the NO MERCY! I'm making the call tomorrow to see if my pro shop guy can locate one for me.

Is Hamer not on top of the ball market or what?


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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: TECH SUPPORT on October 25, 2006, 01:11:35 PM
The secret is in the layout folks! I have a few balls laid out like the recommended hammer drillings and get the same look and reaction from the no mercy as I do my old stuff! Nothing special at all just like the famed ONE. It was all about the recommended layout. Dont believe me experiement for yourself. Find a similar ball and drill them according to hammers recommendation and whola you have a no mercy reaction lol. I was dumfounded when I laid it out,drilled it and looked at it and i be damned if it wasnt identicle to my vendetta particle pearl and ti messenger lol. Pretty much seen the same shape length and move throughout the lane with all three except the vpp was a touch smoother off the break. just a FYI not a bash in any way. To me its a gloriefied 135* and 155* layout with the pin 4 inches above the midline wich equalls flip/forward roll at the break! Pretty much have 3 balls now for the same condition.
Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: max revs on October 25, 2006, 08:27:30 PM
why do people have to think they are smarter then the people that make the ball?
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Title: Re: No Mercy Review
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 25, 2006, 08:38:03 PM
My coach who is straight and fast drilled one close to the drilling above.

4 inch pin to pap and hart in track and said..."it's midlane...then massive backend".

It's hook in a box!  HE is NOT on their staff.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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