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Title: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: agroves on January 28, 2008, 04:25:59 PM
I tossed my BWB in practice today.  It was me, the wife, and the kid.  I've never seen a ball absorb oil so quickly.  I could hardly tell where my track was.  So far, I've got about 4 games on my Bite.  I'm gonna keep an eye on it to see how the reaction changes.

My wife's Raid loss some reaction after about 2 months.  I resurfaced and de oiled it and was surprised at the amount of oil that came out of the ball.  It seems to be back, she shot 741 with it tonight, but two months of use seems awfully low.

Andrew
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Edited on 1/31/2008 2:15 AM
Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: River700 on January 29, 2008, 12:31:23 AM
Thats why companies make ball cleaners..LOL clean a ball after a use and the oil will not inbed itself into the balls surface. Its called regular cleaning, keeping up on things, just like changing oil in a car, if you never change it what would happen type of thing...
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: agroves on January 29, 2008, 12:34:25 AM
I'm not gonna clean the ball after every shot.  I would toss my shot and then on the next shot I couldn't see my track.  It wasn't like the lanes were dry either.

Andrew
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: River700 on January 29, 2008, 12:35:44 AM
You also have to understand that with the new coverstocks by Ebonite, that if you don't clean them with a solid cleaner, then the covers will absorb oil and really lose the reaction, as coverstock is a majority of ball reaction any way. I have seen it way too many times where people will say how awsome a ball is and they don't clean it and then wine after a few months and wonder why their new ball isn't hooking that much any more. Well, peeps stop being lazy and clean your equipment then that won't happen. The more agressive a cover is, the more pours its going to have, which in turn means alot more oil being absorb, but can be stopped by simpling cleaning after every use, its that simple. Hope this helps
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: River700 on January 29, 2008, 12:37:24 AM
I wasn't meaning after every shot, like inverted said, with the high end coverstocks, it comes at a cost, just wish companies would come up with strong coverstocks but be really durable as well.
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: agroves on January 29, 2008, 12:38:06 AM
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The more agressive a cover is, the more pours its going to have, which in turn means alot more oil being absorb, but can be stopped by simpling cleaning after every use, its that simple. Hope this helps


There is no "stopping" it.  You might slow it down, but eventually a de-oil will be required.

Andrew
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Edited on 1/29/2008 1:38 AM
Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: River700 on January 29, 2008, 12:39:11 AM
I also depends on the type of ball cleaner you use as well. Using a paste like ball cleaner will do so much better than a liquid, I can provide evidence of this as I use the reacta shine from storm and that is some what of a paste.
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: River700 on January 29, 2008, 12:43:04 AM
You are right about a de-oil, specially with the newer high end coverstocks, so in reality, whats more worth it, buying the newest ball out there or buy something that has a tried and long lasting coverstock? I have thought about this myself at times. Storm really had it going with their accu-tread coverstock. Same with some of the soaker resins from Dynothane and of course Lanemasters
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: agroves on January 29, 2008, 12:43:21 AM
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I also depends on the type of ball cleaner you use as well. Using a paste like ball cleaner will do so much better than a liquid, I can provide evidence of this as I use the reacta shine from storm and that is some what of a paste.
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I'm a big fan of 409(not in competition of course).  It does a good job.  

My Anger, after 100 games, didn't soak up much, if any, oil at all.  

Andrew
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: River700 on January 29, 2008, 12:46:10 AM
Now I have heard that 409 does work pretty good, but it also depends on the surface texture of the ball and the amount of oil you are bowling on. Like a sanded ball on heavy oil will be super dirty where a ball with a polished surface on medium or lighter will not absorb that much oil.
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: SprayNpray on January 29, 2008, 07:29:03 PM
I noticed the same thing with my Bite.  In the time it took to throw a strike, sit down, wait for my next turn, and go to pick up the Bite for the next shot, most of the oil had already soaked in.  I could barely see evidence of oil rings from the previous shot.

I still wipe down the ball before every shot; I don't think anyone would appreciate it too much if I started waiting for my ball to return from a shot and wiping it down AFTER every shot, but that was the thought that came to mind!
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: abrown on January 29, 2008, 08:02:13 PM
try a cell it has one of the lowest rates for absorbing
Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: agroves on January 29, 2008, 11:41:25 PM
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try a cell it has one of the lowest rates for absorbing


Proof please.
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: revTrex on January 29, 2008, 11:58:56 PM
^^^

I believe the new Roto and Storm high-performance covers are designed to suck up less oil...regardless, most Roto and Storm stuff absorbs oil at a much slower rate than Ebonite and Hammer stuff.
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: agroves on January 30, 2008, 12:00:18 AM
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^^^

I believe the new Roto and Storm high-performance covers are designed to suck up less oil...regardless, most Roto and Storm stuff absorbs oil at a much slower rate than Ebonite and Hammer stuff.
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Designed and doing are two different things.  Just looking for test results to back up the statement above.
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Title: Re: Oil Absorbtion rate
Post by: revTrex on January 30, 2008, 12:29:37 AM
Joey Cerar and I compared the Gravity Shift's coverstock (latest Storm cover) to the coverstocks on other balls, including other Storm Balls. Are results were mostly the same. I have here listed the balls compared, in order of how long they took to absorb oil (fastest at top, slowest at bottom):

1) Black Widow
2) Dead Flush
3) Heist
4) Twisted Fury
5) Insane LevRG
6) Pluto
7) SD-73
8) Nighthawk Pearl
9) Gravity Shift
10) Rapid Fire

Note that the Rapid Fire (R2S) still took longer than the Gravity (new R2X).

Another thing to note, though, was that no ball took longer than approximately 2-2.5 minutes to absorb all oil. The differences were slight -- a BW absorbed most of the oil within 20-35 seconds, a Rapid Fire in 2+ minutes. What difference that makes during league must be minimal -- oil is still getting in the ball by the time it's your shot again.

Just my .02.
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Edited on 1/30/2008 1:31 AM