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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: da Shiv on April 28, 2004, 05:52:20 PM

Title: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on April 28, 2004, 05:52:20 PM
I now see balls called the Pure Hammer and the Big Block Diesel on the approved balls list at www.bowl.com.  The approval date is listed as 4/04 for the Pure Hammer and 3/04 for the Big Block Diesel.  The Switch Blade is listed as approved 2/04 and we still haven't seen that one.  

Is Hammer planning an explosion of new releases during the summer?  Does anybody know anything about any of this stuff?

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: HammerHombre on April 29, 2004, 11:22:24 AM
doubt it, but ya never know.  August would be my guess, before the new season.
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Chris Heringer
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: anotherwindup on April 30, 2004, 09:53:22 AM
WOW- do you people read other topics?  

I continue to post this over and over again.  


BOWL EXPO!!!
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Jason Jenkins
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on April 30, 2004, 10:08:34 AM
I know that this would be provoking a paroxysm of discussion, speculation, and frenzied research if it was Storm or Lane #1 that had three new balls named, approved by ABC, and in the chute somewhere.

By the way, I know about Bowl Expo.  I get all the magazines and junk mail.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: anotherwindup on April 30, 2004, 12:09:10 PM
I'm not going to research them, as I knew about them.  

I also cannot talk about them.  Sorry no hints.


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Jason Jenkins
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on May 11, 2004, 12:56:02 PM
Gittin' kinda tarda watchin' them tumbleweeds blowin' down the street here in Hammertown.  Guess I'll be movin' on.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: mrbowlingnut on May 11, 2004, 10:15:23 PM
I have seen the switch blade and big block in action already they exist and will be out soon. I have seen every ebonite ball listed exept the primal instinct, i guess having the same driller as the ebonite/hammer rep helps once in awhile
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: mrbowlingnut on May 11, 2004, 10:26:54 PM
Btw ebonite/hammer is having a 3 day demo at texas station before bowl expo so that is when these balls are coming out. So i am sure they all exist but i ave not seen all of them yet. The midlane of the switch blade is just mad nuts from watching it roll last friday night, the best blade to date imo-barry
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on May 12, 2004, 09:29:49 AM
Wow, some news!  You guys got anything else, like particle or reactive, core shapes, RGs, colors...anything to gnaw on until I get to see these critters?

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: anotherwindup on May 12, 2004, 09:38:39 AM
The Deal-  the word on the street is this is a new core shape for Hammer.   It is also quoted as the most skid/flip in the line.   Reactive.  

Switch Blade-   Blade core, solid reactive cover.  

Pure Hammer-  Hmmmm...bet you couldn't have guessed that this one is black?

Big Block-  power diesel core I think, reactive, I think.  


That is the Second hand info I got from the Hammer/Ebonite DSM in my area.  He told me this just this week.    


Think you can chew on that for a while without complaining, shiv??

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Jason Jenkins
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"

Edited on 5/12/2004 9:37 AM

Edited on 5/12/2004 9:38 AM
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on May 12, 2004, 09:46:39 AM
Hah!  I finally pried something out of anotherwindup!

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: HammerHombre on May 12, 2004, 12:36:33 PM
Pure Hammer is blade core with urethane/reactive blend.  Comes with 1000 Abralon.....dull rolls like urethane, shine it, and you have reactive tendencies.  BAsically just like an only FAB Hammer, just a bit stronger.

Big Block is actually the original Diesel weight block, as found in the Diesel Particle, and Reactive Pearl.  


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Chris Heringer
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: Gene J Kanak on May 12, 2004, 12:50:57 PM
Bowlingballreviews.com has pics of several of the new Hammer and Ebonite balls. Man, the V2 sweet looks terrible in that redering. A few of them look cool, however.
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: mrbowlingnut on May 12, 2004, 12:56:03 PM
The big block diesel did not look pearl to me, if it is a pearl it is mixed with solid like the other balls out there now from rival companies. It has a slight sheen to it but it looked about in 1200 area to me, i will try to get the spec sheet from the box unless it thrown away already.
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: Gene J Kanak on May 12, 2004, 01:03:28 PM
mrbowlingnut,

Several of Hammer's new release pearls do not look at all like traditional pearls. I have the Diesel Particle Pearl, and it looks like a swirled solid, but it's listed as a pearl. I'm guessing that the Big Block is the same.
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: J_Mac on May 12, 2004, 01:38:46 PM
The Deal's core reminds me of a coffee can with mass bias...  and it's supposed to be big skid/flip?  *scratches head*
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on May 12, 2004, 03:06:00 PM
I just got a look at these balls over on bowlingballreviews.com.  Man, the Deal and the Big Block Diesel both look like just my kind of ball.  The Big Block Diesel surprises me though.  It appears to be a solid version of the original Diesel reactive pearl.  I'm surprised that if Hammer was going to do that, that they didn't do it much sooner.  The other surprising thing is that they released solid and pearl versions of the original particle Diesels and quickly decided to do away with the pearl, so why do this now?  I like that original Diesel core dynamic though, so I'll probably get one.

Those low RG, barrel shaped cores work well for me, so the Deal looks promising too.  It'll be interesting to start getting some user feedback about this bunch.  

I wonder what kind of price point the Deal will be?

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: loose5682 on May 12, 2004, 03:17:21 PM
I think it's very possible that The Deal will replace the Vicious line and probably be priced very similarly.  I like the name for the Deal too, they could come out with the Real Deal, the Big Deal, etc.  Good work by Hammer.
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"Evolutionary. Revolutionary."
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on May 12, 2004, 03:22:28 PM
Don't forget the BF Deal.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: loose5682 on May 12, 2004, 03:50:31 PM
Yes!  Good one!  I think I'd purchase a BF Deal just on name alone!
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Andrew Loose
"King of Them All"
"Evolutionary. Revolutionary."
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: HammerHombre on May 12, 2004, 04:53:50 PM
who said the Big Block is pearl?  Unless I missed it somewhere I dont recall reading it in this thread.
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Chris Heringer
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on May 12, 2004, 05:19:25 PM
I may have given the impression in my last post that the Big Block is pearl--if so, I didn't mean to do that.  My last post was worded poorly.  The ball appears to be a solid, which only makes sense, since they still have the Diesel Reactive Pearl available.  If the Big Block was a pearl, it would be more or less the same ball.  They do appear to look alike, however.  The Diesel Reactive Pearl photo at www.bowlingballreviews.com doesn't look like any DRP that I've seen.  The ones I've seen are red and blue, just like the new Big Block.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: da Shiv on May 12, 2004, 05:21:45 PM
Actually, the Big Block photo at bowlingballreviews does look like a pearl.  I don't think it is, though.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: HammerHombre on May 14, 2004, 03:35:15 PM
Lefty Hack is correct.  Per Brian Graham, Big Blue Spare is 3 piece core, polyester cover.  Forget what's inside that ball...has anyone ever seen a better color blue than the BAD Arse blue as is in Big Blue???
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Chris Heringer
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: TOON on May 18, 2004, 11:51:56 AM
I'm curious about the SwitchBlade.  Reactive solid?  Sounds like the ugly green and blue one that was discontinued that worked well.  Any change in the core?  
I cant wait to see the BF Deal too!!!!
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Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: HammerHombre on May 18, 2004, 01:15:52 PM
Switch blade is the same core as is in Blade Reactive.  The cover is different, Switch has the same cover as was on the original Vicious (yellow and green).  Much cleaner through the fronts and stronger on the back.  Mine are due in today so I have not thrown it first-hand but the reviews on this site indicate a very good ball!!
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Chris Heringer
Title: Re: Pure Hammer & Big Block Diesel
Post by: anotherwindup on May 18, 2004, 02:50:25 PM
Hammer----Actually the cover is the reactive cover from the purple vicious.  
The Green and yellow Vicious was the particle.   This one is reactive.  

I bowled with mine last night.   922 for 4.   Missed 6 easy spares.  Good ball.   Not jerky off the dry, more archy.   Mine is layed out 5" pin 75*.  I did knock the factory shine off of it and sanded with 4000 abralon pads.  Ball is very clean through the fronts, reads the mids well, but not strong, and hits hard.   I personally like this one better than my Sling Blade.   The cover doesn't appear to be as strong on the Switch as the Sling.  

I will know more as I bowl more with it.  

Let me know how yours work out.


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Jason Jenkins
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"