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Nicanor

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Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« on: March 11, 2009, 03:45:08 AM »
Pin above or pin below.  Did not want a skid flip reaction.  My pap is 4 7/8 and 5/8 up about 400 rev rate and approx 17 mph ball speed.

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EboHammer4ever

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 11:46:43 AM »
Hot Sauce is not the ball if you don't want a skid/flip reaction.  The original Sauce (if you have enough oil to keep it from burning up) or an Acid would be a better choice.

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Kid Jete

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 11:47:28 AM »
I know this is probably irrelevant but if you don't want skid/flip why drill a hot sauce?  I suppose you could drill it with a lower pin and knock the shine off but doesn't that defeat the purpose of the ball?  Why not drill up a sauce of something instead?
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Nicanor

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 11:51:07 AM »
So is the Hot Sauce only really at its best as a skid flip?  The ones I've seen locally didn't seem to be skid flippy.  Is that release or ball drilling/prep?  I have enough oil balls, Dynamo, Virtual Gravity, Cell, Agent Orange.  I want a ball to get through the heads easier, have some pop in the back end, but not a hockey stick move.

Thanks for the quick feedback.





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mrbowlingnut

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 11:51:18 AM »
It will be hard for it not to be skid/snap low pin and 2k abralon will help alot with it.
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Kid Jete

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 11:58:58 AM »
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So is the Hot Sauce only really at its best as a skid flip?  The ones I've seen locally didn't seem to be skid flippy.  Is that release or ball drilling/prep?  I have enough oil balls, Dynamo, Virtual Gravity, Cell, Agent Orange.  I want a ball to get through the heads easier, have some pop in the back end, but not a hockey stick move.

Thanks for the quick feedback.





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Edited on 3/11/2009 11:52 AM


If I drilled one up I would use a little higher pin and maybe try it at 4000 first.  If it's too flippy take it down to 2000.  From the balls you already own it really wouldn't be a bad choice at all.
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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 12:20:26 PM »
I have a high pin with box all it did was flip off the dry like a hockey stick reaction, trust me stay with a strong drilling and go pin down like 4 inches to pap.
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Nicanor

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 12:38:37 PM »
Thanks again.  I've seen some really great scores with this ball locally and it seems to be very consistant.  Just didn't need a ball like the Sauce.  I didn't match up with the T-Road series or the Dimension and didn't try the Rapid Fire series and I believe Lane 1's ball might have been the Buzzbomb/R but I didn't match up with the Buzzbomb.  I really like the Grand Illusion but I needed someting a little stronger off the break point then the Grand Illusion, so hopefully the Hot Sauce will fill the gap.


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Kid Jete

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 12:47:03 PM »
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I have a high pin with box all it did was flip off the dry like a hockey stick reaction, trust me stay with a strong drilling and go pin down like 4 inches to pap.


But he wants it to get through the heads clean... I just think a lower pin would start up too early, especially if he took it down to 2000.  I guess it depends on ball speed, rev rate, tilt, etc. though.
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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 03:10:51 PM »
I have mine drilled pin up and it is really jumpy off the dry. Like mrbowlingnut I would recommend a pin down drilling, have the pin to pap distance to around 4 1/2". Keeping it at out of box surface should still get it through the heads clean. If you drill it with a bit of extra thumbweight it will also smooth out the transition. Hope this helps.
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nextbowler

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 05:02:57 PM »
Be very careful who you take advice from.  You don't know the people on
this site--only what they say.  Some people are not what they pretend.  Be
careful.
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azguy

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2009, 05:22:59 PM »
Nicanor, you know me, we have a few deals before but this is what gets me at times. Before anyone gets a ball, why wouldn't they do some research ? Even the Hammer site says 'skid/flip'. I will admit, what a ball does for one will/may not be what it will do for another. Point was the Toxic. I loved that ball, many hated it, so be it.

Research, read, ask before getting a new ball, is all I'm saying.

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Nicanor

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2009, 08:08:11 PM »
Hammerbowling.com say the Hot Sauce is a combination of power ball and control.

Read all the reviews on buddies pro shop.  Not one review said it was a real skid flip.  None at all said the ball flipped.  If you take a skid flip ball with the pin high or above the ring finger, it adds to the flippiness.  Yes?  If you take a skid flip ball and put the pin below the ring finger and kick the MB right with good speed about 17.5 and revs about 400 are you going to get a ball that gets through the heads well and a strong but not a skid/flip hockey stick motion?

I have seen this ball throw by abt least 4 bowlers and I did not see a hockey stick move from any of them.

So I seen it thrown, read the reviews here and on Buddiesproshop and asked opinions.  did I not do my homework?


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los2003

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2009, 08:48:00 PM »
the ball is definitely a skid flip ball.. pin over middle is still flippy.. pin under middle is smoother but there are better choices for what u are looking for.. I.e. psycho,acid, even a blue vibe..
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azguy

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Re: Recommended drilling for a Hot Sauce
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2009, 08:48:02 PM »
Personally I don't watch/read the reviews on Buddies, just me. The description of the ball, on Hammer site, says...skid/flip. One can do all sorts of things to a ball and make it something else, but why ? If a ball is designed/made to do one thing and that thing is NOT what you want, then why buy the ball ?

That's my point. It's not like that's the only ball Hammer made, not the only ball on the market. A person can do what they want, it's thier ball/money. My thing is why folks buy a ball, want it to do something it's not (maybe) designed to do then sell it or complain it doesn't fit them/thier style. That's my point.

A plastic ball is designed to go straight but change the cover, have the right pattern and even that ball will hook but most folks buy a plastic ball to go straight, that's all I'm saying.

I hope you can get it to do just what you want it to. I hope you have some of the best sets you have ever had, I really do. It just makes me wonder why folks buy a ball then ask to drill it to do something it was not designed to do, that's all I'm saying.

 
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