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Title: Sauce Owners
Post by: 3M Dust Remover on April 06, 2009, 11:55:50 AM
What do those who own the Sauce think of it? I'm looking to buy one next week and use it as my oil ball.
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: FastTracker33 on April 06, 2009, 07:58:17 PM
I loved mine. It was probably the most rolly ball i've ever owned (3.5" pin to PAP layout).. But like all good things, it came to an end shortly. About 20 games it lived for, even after cleaning it each set before it went back into the bag, and wiping it with an oil absorbing towel every shot.

RIP 1st 300 ball.
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Edited on 4/6/2009 7:59 PM
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: 3M Dust Remover on April 06, 2009, 08:12:01 PM
ya i know Hammer balls suited for heavy oil sponge up easily. My Anger does that also, i just put mine in the dishwasher and it suck it all out.
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: FastTracker33 on April 06, 2009, 08:17:26 PM
I was really disappointed in the ball. For the 180$ price from my shop, and how well it rolled, it really disappointed me. I put it to 500 abralon and hot water bathed it for 30 minutes, turned it over for another 30 minutes with grease cutting soap and hot tap water, but the ball still didn't show its' true life back.
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Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: 3M Dust Remover on April 06, 2009, 08:57:09 PM
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I was really disappointed in the ball. For the 180$ price from my shop, and how well it rolled, it really disappointed me. I put it to 500 abralon and hot water bathed it for 30 minutes, turned it over for another 30 minutes with grease cutting soap and hot tap water, but the ball still didn't show its' true life back.
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Are there any oil balls out there that don't die like this?
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: FastTracker33 on April 06, 2009, 09:12:34 PM
I wish there was something. I'm assuming equipment such as a 900 Global Break S75/Bounty, Lane#1 Agent Orange/Dynamo, or a Roto Cell/Rogue Cell should give you better longevity. I don't know for sure. I'm just basing this assumption off these company's reputation.

Hope this helps!
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Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: EboHammer on April 06, 2009, 09:29:28 PM
My first drilling on my Sauce was a 5 inch pin to pap (above my bridge) and 5 inch cg to pap.  That drilling did not suit that ball for me, it gave me to much over/under with the ball.  When it hooked it hooked very sharply, when it didn't hook it went very straight.

I plugged it and tried it with the pin at 4 inches (just below my bridge and the cg kicked out to the right and down by the thumb hole.  I don't need a weight hole since I use switch grips and they take out any additional thumb weight there might be.  This ball rolls much better now.  It is a much more useable ball, not so condition sensitive as it was prior.

I think my mistake was taking a very strong ball and putting a weak drilling on it.
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: charlest on April 06, 2009, 09:37:56 PM
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I was really disappointed in the ball. For the 180$ price from my shop, and how well it rolled, it really disappointed me. I put it to 500 abralon and hot water bathed it for 30 minutes, turned it over for another 30 minutes with grease cutting soap and hot tap water, but the ball still didn't show its' true life back.
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Are there any oil balls out there that don't die like this?


Yes.
Visionary Ogre Particle
Lanemasters Dynamic Power
900Global S75 Break

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Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: tuckingfenpin on April 06, 2009, 09:39:34 PM
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I was really disappointed in the ball. For the 180$ price from my shop, and how well it rolled, it really disappointed me. I put it to 500 abralon and hot water bathed it for 30 minutes, turned it over for another 30 minutes with grease cutting soap and hot tap water, but the ball still didn't show its' true life back.
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- Brian
http://BeansProShop.com


Are there any oil balls out there that don't die like this?


I haven't heard about very many Cell's dieing, I hear about Ebonite and Hammer dieing all the time. Even some Track recently..buddy of mine in league had to have his UpRising (not a true oiler) put into the Hook Again kit, 48 hours later it hooked almost like new. He rarely uses it now in league for fear of it dieing again, and saves it for tournaments only.
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Edited on 4/6/2009 9:40 PM
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: 3M Dust Remover on April 06, 2009, 10:19:15 PM
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I was really disappointed in the ball. For the 180$ price from my shop, and how well it rolled, it really disappointed me. I put it to 500 abralon and hot water bathed it for 30 minutes, turned it over for another 30 minutes with grease cutting soap and hot tap water, but the ball still didn't show its' true life back.
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- Brian
http://BeansProShop.com


Are there any oil balls out there that don't die like this?


I haven't heard about very many Cell's dieing, I hear about Ebonite and Hammer dieing all the time. Even some Track recently..buddy of mine in league had to have his UpRising (not a true oiler) put into the Hook Again kit, 48 hours later it hooked almost like new. He rarely uses it now in league for fear of it dieing again, and saves it for tournaments only.
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Big B > *

Edited on 4/6/2009 9:40 PM


Would the Cell or Rogue be more comparable to the Sauce?
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: jwhaleyii on April 07, 2009, 01:26:20 AM
Storm Dimension
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Storm Hyroad 1 2000 abralon(benchmark ball)
Storm Hyroad 2 4000 polished
Storm Second Dimension
Storm T-road Pearl
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: 3M Dust Remover on April 07, 2009, 01:39:12 AM
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Storm Dimension
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Storm Hyroad 1 2000 abralon(benchmark ball)
Storm Hyroad 2 4000 polished
Storm Second Dimension
Storm T-road Pearl



what?
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: mmcfarland300 on April 07, 2009, 07:57:25 AM
The only cell that would give a true comparison would be the original.  With that said I have over 150 games on my Sauce I Bath it every 30 games like i do with all my bowling balls.  It still has the same reaction as it always had.  Good rolly motion.
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: toomanytenpins on April 08, 2009, 12:44:48 PM
i had a sauce ,sold it after 2 weeks and the guy i sold it to,who loved it ,doesnt use it much.it just wasnt much diffeerent than stuff i already had. the only ,"strong ball",that i have recently purchased that i truly like is the nvd.I think for the money you could do alot worse.Not the vg,or magic. Rogue cell looks good ,but i am totally done buying the next hot wonder to find out its really no better than stuff i already have.
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Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: freak761 on April 08, 2009, 01:30:12 PM
Got my Sauce back in February and had it drilled Rico. IMO it is a very good oil ball, you just need to find the best surface for your style. I keep mine at 1000 abralon and clean it with Clean N Dull after each league night and have seen no loss of reaction. I have about 60 or 70 games on it. Haven't thrown a 300 or 800 with it, but a few 279's and a 753, not too bad.
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: SteveAustin2808 on April 08, 2009, 11:15:26 PM
When the right condition comes along, which usually, in the places I bowl at, the guy oiling the lanes tends to get a little bit overboard than what the shot usually is at times, The Sauce is the perfect ball for the job. I'm very impressed with it. Would highly suggest this ball for bowlers looking to play on a heavier house pattern or with low revs. I've only used this ball about 5-10 times at most, if that, this season.

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Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: DanR on April 09, 2009, 07:10:58 PM
I was really disappointed in the ball. For the 180$ price from my shop, and how well it rolled, it really disappointed me. I put it to 500 abralon and hot water bathed it for 30 minutes, turned it over for another 30 minutes with grease cutting soap and hot tap water, but the ball still didn't show its' true life back.
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- Brian
http://BeansProShop.com

You can take down the surface to 500 on an aggressive ball and expect it to perform.  With that much surface the ball will only roll out and never hook. No high performance ball should be lower then 1000 grit and that's on heavy oil conditions
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: tizzle on April 10, 2009, 08:35:14 AM
Ebonite Magic... The new cover on this thing absorbs less oil, and is more durable then any other ebonite ball on the market. I have 200+ games on my magic, and I don't have a nick on it, and also no loss in reaction. Hammer Hot Sauce has 145 games on it, going strong as well. The new ebonite stuff is made with an emphasis on longevity. Try out the magic!
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag...some magic, some hot sauce, a rogue cell,a liberator, and a saw.. how can I loose....

....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: Gazoo on April 10, 2009, 09:05:34 AM
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I was really disappointed in the ball. For the 180$ price from my shop, and how well it rolled, it really disappointed me. I put it to 500 abralon and hot water bathed it for 30 minutes, turned it over for another 30 minutes with grease cutting soap and hot tap water, but the ball still didn't show its' true life back.
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Sure hope you put it back to 4000 grit after the hot water bath because at 500 grit it will never react like oob. The only reason I state this is because this step is left out by alot of bowlers I see who say the ball will still not react  after oil extraction. They do not put the ball back to the grit level being originally used.
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Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: tmiller02 on April 11, 2009, 03:39:33 PM
If you want hook and longevity try a Ebonite Magic. Loved this over my Sauce and Virtual Gravity.
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: tenpin on April 17, 2009, 07:01:03 AM
I have over 270 games on my Break Solid without resurfacing no problems with reactions and also have over 100 games now on my Break S75 without any problems.  Not all Oil balls die...  This is why I stopped using ebonite and hammer a while ago as it seemed everything just dies after a certain period and got tired of it.
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Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: nixusr on April 19, 2009, 10:47:03 PM
I've had my Sauce for a month and it hasn't let up one bit yet. It is still at the OOB finish and I clean it after every time I play it. It goes long and then snaps into the pocket. Great ball, after seeing the reviews on heavy oil balls it seems like some do break down over time. But, you can bring them back with the proper restoration procedures.

Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: JohnN on April 30, 2009, 11:39:07 AM
I had a very good year with mine. Bought it in late October while struggling at 185 on what seemed to be heavier than normal oil. I kept it at 1000 abralon  and did 1 oil extraction in Jan. Finished season at 210. Shot 727 the last night missing 2 easy spares. I think it was worth every penny I paid. Usually use Storm stuff but I didn't know they were coming out with the VG when I bought it.
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: nixusr on April 30, 2009, 01:12:17 PM
John,

I was thinking of dropping the cover on mine down a bit to make it more aggressive in the oil. How is yours at 1000?
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: davidwozny on April 30, 2009, 01:32:10 PM
I picked one up in February, OOB the reaction was a real nice sharp turn, I'm a high speed guy and this worked real we,ll.  Currently I'm shootin on a serious high oil volume and the Sauce has done great. Have averaged in the 210 range ever since and have made my money back on it 3 fold.  I have brought the surface down just a bit and is still snappin nicely.
Title: Re: Sauce Owners
Post by: JohnN on April 30, 2009, 06:27:40 PM
I was really happy with mine at 1000.I tried it at 2000 first but it was going a little to long before it hooked. I'm a lower speed, medium rev lefty. Of the 2 houses I bowl in the one I use the Sauce in uses more oil. I'm not an expert on drillings but mine is drilled with the pin(3") about 1 1/2" left of the ring finger, the cg just left of the center of the grip and a weight hole. Ball hits hard but also carries the light hits.