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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: J_w73 on February 06, 2018, 11:53:07 AM

Title: Semtex
Post by: J_w73 on February 06, 2018, 11:53:07 AM
Are the Semtex and Semtex CFI the same cover?  If they are different, what reaction difference is there between the Semtex and Semtex CFI?
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: bradl on February 06, 2018, 05:49:33 PM
Are the Semtex and Semtex CFI the same cover?  If they are different, what reaction difference is there between the Semtex and Semtex CFI?

While they are technically the same cover, the difference between the Semtex and the Semtex CFI is the CFI. The Semtex CFI cover is the Semtex cover with carbon fiber infused into the cover. Hence Semtex Carbon Fiber Infused.

BL.
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: J_w73 on February 06, 2018, 06:16:09 PM
Are the Semtex and Semtex CFI the same cover?  If they are different, what reaction difference is there between the Semtex and Semtex CFI?

While they are technically the same cover, the difference between the Semtex and the Semtex CFI is the CFI. The Semtex CFI cover is the Semtex cover with carbon fiber infused into the cover. Hence Semtex Carbon Fiber Infused.

BL.


Ok.  I didn't know if someone knew they were actually the same, but Hammer just decided to add the CFI nomenclature later on. 

Any idea on the difference in reaction between the Semtex and the Semtex with CFI?
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: bradl on February 06, 2018, 08:33:21 PM
Are the Semtex and Semtex CFI the same cover?  If they are different, what reaction difference is there between the Semtex and Semtex CFI?

While they are technically the same cover, the difference between the Semtex and the Semtex CFI is the CFI. The Semtex CFI cover is the Semtex cover with carbon fiber infused into the cover. Hence Semtex Carbon Fiber Infused.

BL.


Ok.  I didn't know if someone knew they were actually the same, but Hammer just decided to add the CFI nomenclature later on. 

Any idea on the difference in reaction between the Semtex and the Semtex with CFI?

I would say it has less to do with reaction, but more to do with the durability and longevity of the cover and ball altogether. With it being infused with fiber, it will withstand more wear and tear compared to most other balls. This explains what Carbon fiber does, and while it they are applying it to how it works with the core, the principles of this also apply to the cover.


This is what also allows Hammer to offer a 3-year warranty on the ball versus a 1 year warranty from other makers.

BL.
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: jdmead464 on February 08, 2018, 12:32:02 PM
Isnt hammer carbon fiber infusing all their covers? If thats the case what makes this different from the cfi covers?
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: SVstar34 on February 08, 2018, 12:34:37 PM
Isnt hammer carbon fiber infusing all their covers? If thats the case what makes this different from the cfi covers?

No they're carbon fiber infusing all of their cores. Only the top shelf have the CFI covers so far
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: jdmead464 on February 08, 2018, 12:45:27 PM
So basically what i said. They carbon fiber all the covers now. But only list it in the high performance
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: bradl on February 08, 2018, 12:54:38 PM
So basically what i said. They carbon fiber all the covers now. But only list it in the high performance

You misunderstand. They are CFI with most if not all of their CORES, but not their covers.

For example, the Black Widow Gold has a CFI core, but the coverstock is not CFI. Same goes for the Phobia, BW Dark Legend Solid, Rhodman, or the Diesel.

Their HP line isn't the be all/end all for Hammer.

BL.
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: jdmead464 on February 08, 2018, 12:55:31 PM
Gotcha. Makes sense now. I must have misread the specifications and description. Thanks.
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: HackJandy on February 08, 2018, 01:01:57 PM
Durability only matters if you have a small arsenal and mostly throw the same ball (even then losing ball reaction over time is not necessarily solved even if less dents are).  Personally unless you really see something you like in the top shelf reaction wise on the lane I would say don't buy the top shelf just for the CFI.  Some of their mid priced stuff is better for THS imo.  Over $130 for a ball and you are buying hype usually.  Take it from a Scandal Pearl owner who rarely throws it.
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: jdmead464 on February 08, 2018, 01:09:55 PM
No i understand that. Its whatever fits in each individual person arsenal and what matches up with their game. I wasnt queationing that.  I was just looking for more insight on the differences of the cfi.
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: HackJandy on February 08, 2018, 01:13:10 PM
No i understand that. Its whatever fits in each individual person arsenal and what matches up with their game. I wasnt queationing that.  I was just looking for more insight on the differences of the cfi.

Ah ok.  Yeah only have the one CFI ball and other Hammer balls so different can't compare.  I think it does act somewhat like particle as they do tend to be made more for heavy oil but probably less than some other manufacturers solutions.
Title: Re: Semtex
Post by: J_w73 on February 08, 2018, 01:27:15 PM
So no one sees a major difference in reaction between the Semtex and Semtex CFI?