Over the past couple of years there have been many Hammer fans wondering how to replace their Blue or their Onyx Vibes. I am one who thinks Hammer is making a major marketing mistake by continuing to develop and market stronger and stronger PEARLIZED vibes, instead of bringing out either a direct Onyx or Blue replacement, a solid resin coverstock, or an upgraded one. Of course, even in today's environment an Onyx Vibe would still handle true medium oil.

C'mon, Hammer, instead of playing marketing games, do some minimal research (Heck, I've already done it for you!!) and bring out a decent medium oil, solid coverstock with the great Vibe core.

You have nothing to lose and possibly millions (of dollars, yens, euros?) to gain.

People are already and still willing to pay $250 for a new Blue Vibe on Ebay. Sell them yourselves and make thousands of Hammer fans happy. (With a small profit margin for yourself!)

If the market really dictates it they will I'm sure. I'd say the market is much smaller then expected which is why it wouldn't make them tons of money. It is still there entry price point ball and for many it is the go to ball when the lanes are drying out and they want something pearl and polished to give them a better look on the drier shot.

Why not just get the Cyclone. It comes from the same place and will probably do what your looking for. Or are you on Hammer staff and need it to say Hammer to work?

Are there pearl cyclones? Just wondering how they compare to the vibe series.

Although some Ebo Int'l people had said, when they first came out, they were all solids, many other people said there was one solid and the rest were pearls. In any case, mostly they're a very strong hooking ball for medium-light to medium oil. Since they're already at 4000 grit + polish, they can only be made weaker via drillings.

I'd say they were the Ebo equivalent of the Hammer Vibe series, with a little more overall hook, except for the Grape and the Cobalt. I think those two are close in overall hook to the Cyclones.

Jeff... I know it's not a Hammer piece... but have you checked out Track's new 300C Solid? The new core is high RG and high diff...

http://trackbowling.com/products/product_detail/300c_solid

I had a 300C and in my opionion it's much weaker than any vibe I own.

Agreed, but the new one has a much more dynamic core...

For all of you wanting to go old school, they did similar with the new Purple Hammer: Modified urethane coverstock, Symmetric Vibe core.

http://www.legend-star.com/ball-purple_hammer.html

BL.

Brad,

That looks like the "our" Blue Hammer" in a purple color coverstock, no???
(the key for me was the specs for the core)

Quote from: bradl on May 15, 2013, 01:02:17 PM

For all of you wanting to go old school, they did similar with the new Purple Hammer: Modified urethane coverstock, Symmetric Vibe core.

http://www.legend-star.com/ball-purple_hammer.html

BL.

Brad,

That looks like the "our" Blue Hammer" in a purple color coverstock, no???
(the key for me was the specs for the core)

Looking at it, yeah, you're pretty much right. Even going off of the Japanese specs for the Blue and Purple, it has the same cover, hardness, finish, RG and diff, but just a different color to the cover and different logo..

BL.

Talk about the "core".....I notice most cores are "light bulb" shaped but I have not seen other cores that are similar to the unique shape of the Vibe core( Hammer has not even tried the "Modified Vibe core" routine?). This really puzzles me as we all know how good it is. I probably don't know enough.........

The Blue Hammer urethane does have a modified Vibe core!