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Title: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: istrike36times on October 22, 2014, 01:00:10 AM
Check it out---> http://www.bowlersmart.com/bowling-blog/new-bowling-balls/introducing-the-hammer-vibe-infrared-xr-private-stock-628
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on October 22, 2014, 01:09:48 AM
So from this take, stronger then the XR ?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: dougb on October 22, 2014, 01:22:59 AM
Me want!!!
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: suhoney24 on October 22, 2014, 02:58:49 AM
Dang...sounds like a hell of a ball...to bad I just purchased the xr envy turd
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: cheech on October 22, 2014, 07:22:13 AM
what is the release date on this thing. i read somewhere like friday or saturday but i cant find it now
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: JamminJD on October 22, 2014, 07:41:21 AM
what is the release date on this thing. i read somewhere like friday or saturday but i cant find it now
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Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: charlest on October 22, 2014, 08:37:33 AM
If the Infrared's cover is truly based on the Blue's CutThroat cover, then they may finally have something. All the rest of the XR's used more modern and very strong coverstocks that seemed to overpower the Vibe's medium strength core.

Remember the Vibe's were originally intended to handle light to medium-light oil, with the Onyx taking its abilities just barely into true medium oil.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: SVstar34 on October 22, 2014, 09:40:41 AM
:O it might be time to replace my blue vibe finally
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: Jorge300 on October 22, 2014, 11:01:45 AM
Will they actually have this in 16lbs, or will it be only 15lbs like some of there other "specials"?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on October 22, 2014, 11:34:28 AM
Will they actually have this in 16lbs, or will it be only 15lbs like some of there other "specials"?

They had 16's for the ER and Envy, both numbered balls...my guess is yes. I think some of the overseas balls there were no 16's..stay tuned I guess
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: Jorge300 on October 22, 2014, 05:03:47 PM
Will they actually have this in 16lbs, or will it be only 15lbs like some of there other "specials"?

They had 16's for the ER and Envy, both numbered balls...my guess is yes. I think some of the overseas balls there were no 16's..stay tuned I guess

Thanks. I believe it was the overseas balls I had looked at in the past. I was very disappointed to see only 15lbs. I will check back on the 26th and take a look. Sounds interesting. What was the price point on the other balls they put out like this? I didn't see anything indicating price when I looked at the website, just the blog announcement.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on October 22, 2014, 09:19:53 PM
Will they actually have this in 16lbs, or will it be only 15lbs like some of there other "specials"?

They had 16's for the ER and Envy, both numbered balls...my guess is yes. I think some of the overseas balls there were no 16's..stay tuned I guess

Thanks. I believe it was the overseas balls I had looked at in the past. I was very disappointed to see only 15lbs. I will check back on the 26th and take a look. Sounds interesting. What was the price point on the other balls they put out like this? I didn't see anything indicating price when I looked at the website, just the blog announcement.

I saw some 16's in a pic off their Facebook page today.....last two were $120 shipped
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on October 23, 2014, 09:33:14 AM
They are $139.99 each. Just bought my two.  ;D
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on October 23, 2014, 11:32:06 AM
If the Infrared's cover is truly based on the Blue's CutThroat cover, then they may finally have something. All the rest of the XR's used more modern and very strong coverstocks that seemed to overpower the Vibe's medium strength core.

Remember the Vibe's were originally intended to handle light to medium-light oil, with the Onyx taking its abilities just barely into true medium oil.

How did the Cobalt Blue Stack up?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: pin-smasher on October 23, 2014, 06:16:14 PM
Just bought one...cant wait to drill it up
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: cheech on October 24, 2014, 12:16:51 AM
If the Infrared's cover is truly based on the Blue's CutThroat cover, then they may finally have something. All the rest of the XR's used more modern and very strong coverstocks that seemed to overpower the Vibe's medium strength core.

Remember the Vibe's were originally intended to handle light to medium-light oil, with the Onyx taking its abilities just barely into true medium oil.

How did the Cobalt Blue Stack up?

i love my cobalt. still to this day i cant figure out if the cover on it is of the black widow solid and the pearl look is just for aesthetics or if its the black widow pearl's cover. ive heard both answers. i keep it at 500/4000+lane shine and it gets a bunch of length and hard arc/snap depending on hand position.

i have to say how are you guys drilling the new one already?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 24, 2014, 08:19:15 AM
Ive got two in 15lbs I will be selling. I think this ball will be a lot bigger hit then the Green Envy. Fireball red is always a winner.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on October 24, 2014, 11:57:27 AM
Anyone see the 14lbs specs? I saw the 15lbs
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on October 24, 2014, 12:05:19 PM
So who is gonna be the first one to ebay?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 24, 2014, 03:55:31 PM
My tracking number came today so technically I could list them since I know I got two. I have in times past. Probably will this weekend.

Im not excited that they didnt list the number available.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on October 24, 2014, 04:01:15 PM
Mine are not going to make eBay this time. One I will keep as I have a nice little collection of Vibes, the other has already been traded to a local pro shop.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: billdozer on October 24, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
Lol could you imagine how crazy it would be storm did this lol
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: charlest on October 24, 2014, 07:15:41 PM
Anyone see the 14lbs specs? I saw the 15lbs

WHERE?
I went to the Bowlersmart website and didn't see the Infrared anywhere.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: charlest on October 24, 2014, 07:20:20 PM
If the Infrared's cover is truly based on the Blue's CutThroat cover, then they may finally have something. All the rest of the XR's used more modern and very strong coverstocks that seemed to overpower the Vibe's medium strength core.

Remember the Vibe's were originally intended to handle light to medium-light oil, with the Onyx taking its abilities just barely into true medium oil.

How did the Cobalt Blue Stack up?

I didn't have a Cobalt. I had the original Blue Vibe.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on October 24, 2014, 08:02:42 PM
Mine are not going to make eBay this time. One I will keep as I have a nice little collection of Vibes, the other has already been traded to a local pro shop.

Was told after the preorders ....533 total
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 24, 2014, 10:42:08 PM
So 700-800?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on October 24, 2014, 10:47:15 PM
So 700-800?

No 533....Just saying that I never saw an amount till after the preorders
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: Juggernaut on October 25, 2014, 07:13:33 AM
Anyone see the 14lbs specs? I saw the 15lbs

WHERE?
I went to the Bowlersmart website and didn't see the Infrared anywhere.


http://www.bowlersmart.com/hammer-infrared-vibe-xr-private-stock-bowling-ball
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: charlest on October 25, 2014, 07:19:32 AM
Anyone see the 14lbs specs? I saw the 15lbs

WHERE?
I went to the Bowlersmart website and didn't see the Infrared anywhere.


http://www.bowlersmart.com/hammer-infrared-vibe-xr-private-stock-bowling-ball


Thanks; it wasn't there yesterday. Sigh.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: billdozer on October 25, 2014, 11:12:25 AM
So idk if anyone notices but this be the same 'finishing style' as the bad ass..hickland talked about just dong 500/2000...and that appears to be what's done here.  Kinda cool.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: JamminJD on October 25, 2014, 12:32:52 PM
So idk if anyone notices but this be the same 'finishing style' as the bad ass..hickland talked about just dong 500/2000...and that appears to be what's done here.  Kinda cool.
Yeah, noticed that also.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on October 27, 2014, 09:38:22 AM
They apparently did not sell out last night.  Still some #15s and #16s left.  Since they didn't sell out quickly like some of the other previous XRs, I'm guessing the resale market is not going to be as profitable for those who were hoping to make a killing on ebay.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on October 27, 2014, 09:45:25 AM
They apparently did not sell out last night.  Still some #15s and #16s left.  Since they didn't sell out quickly like some of the other previous XRs, I'm guessing the resale market is not going to be as profitable for those who were hoping to make a killing on ebay.

Glad I already made a deal for my extra ball!

I kind of expected that with the way the Envy XR was handled. If you make something "exclusive", stick with the original production number. When they upped the count from 400 +/- to over 700, that pretty much killed the resale value of the Envy XR.

Still a smart move on Barnes part though, dude has made good money on all of them I bet.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on October 27, 2014, 10:02:03 AM
They apparently did not sell out last night.  Still some #15s and #16s left.  Since they didn't sell out quickly like some of the other previous XRs, I'm guessing the resale market is not going to be as profitable for those who were hoping to make a killing on ebay.

Glad I already made a deal for my extra ball!

I kind of expected that with the way the Envy XR was handled. If you make something "exclusive", stick with the original production number. When they upped the count from 400 +/- to over 700, that pretty much killed the resale value of the Envy XR.

Still a smart move on Barnes part though, dude has made good money on all of them I bet.

No doubt!  From what I understand, a limited run like this is going to cost about $90 per ball.  Barnes perhaps negotiated an even better price though.  But this is what I've read in the past.  They sell them for $140 and they probably spend about $10 per ball on shipiing.  So $40/ball profit.  Multiply that by 533 (for this release) for a total profit of $21,320.  Granted there are additional costs of staffing people to handle the product coming in and going out.  Regardless, Barnes is making some "easy" money.  I personally refuse to buy into this type of product.  It's a bowling ball after all, not gold.  I have no need to spend a premium price on a "rare" bowling ball.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on October 27, 2014, 10:09:52 AM
They apparently did not sell out last night.  Still some #15s and #16s left.  Since they didn't sell out quickly like some of the other previous XRs, I'm guessing the resale market is not going to be as profitable for those who were hoping to make a killing on ebay.

Glad I already made a deal for my extra ball!

I kind of expected that with the way the Envy XR was handled. If you make something "exclusive", stick with the original production number. When they upped the count from 400 +/- to over 700, that pretty much killed the resale value of the Envy XR.

Still a smart move on Barnes part though, dude has made good money on all of them I bet.

No doubt!  From what I understand, a limited run like this is going to cost about $90 per ball.  Barnes perhaps negotiated an even better price though.  But this is what I've read in the past.  They sell them for $140 and they probably spend about $10 per ball on shipiing.  So $40/ball profit.  Multiply that by 533 (for this release) for a total profit of $21,320.  Granted there are additional costs of staffing people to handle the product coming in and going out.  Regardless, Barnes is making some "easy" money.  I personally refuse to buy into this type of product.  It's a bowling ball after all, not gold.  I have no need to spend a premium price on a "rare" bowling ball.


But, but, but....my Vibe collection wouldn't be complete without the new red one!  :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: Plowboy300 on October 27, 2014, 10:37:25 AM
That is why I purchased this one, to keep up with all of the Vibes in my collection... Only missing the rare (Purple/Gold Vibe - INTL ball)...
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: itsallaboutme on October 27, 2014, 10:45:31 AM
Regardless of what y'all think, there isn't any "easy" money to be made anywhere in the bowling industry.

If it was that easy and risk free don't you think more would do it?
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Post by: bowlingman817 on October 27, 2014, 11:05:41 AM
Is it a pearl or solid?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on October 27, 2014, 11:24:50 AM
Is it a pearl or solid?

As I understand it, it's a solid. Supposed to be the same cover as the Blue Vibe.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on October 27, 2014, 11:52:35 AM
Regardless of what y'all think, there isn't any "easy" money to be made anywhere in the bowling industry.

If it was that easy and risk free don't you think more would do it?

The "risk" is when will it get to the point where the lemmings stop buying into the hype.  For a company that is already set up for online sales and to bring in and ship out product, this is "easy" money.  Of course the key is marketing and I think Barnes really caught on to something with the numbering.  People love limited rare items, and then you put a number on it and it makes it even more special.  Then you also kind of "trap" those that already bought into the original XR.  You give them pre-order privileges so that they can secure the number they have for the next release.  Those people feel like they HAVE TO BUY IT!  Collecting bowling balls is a waste of money.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on October 27, 2014, 11:56:18 AM
Anyone catch the specs of the 14lb yet?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on October 27, 2014, 11:58:20 AM
Regardless of what y'all think, there isn't any "easy" money to be made anywhere in the bowling industry.

If it was that easy and risk free don't you think more would do it?

The "risk" is when will it get to the point where the lemmings stop buying into the hype.  For a company that is already set up for online sales and to bring in and ship out product, this is "easy" money.  Of course the key is marketing and I think Barnes really caught on to something with the numbering.  People love limited rare items, and then you put a number on it and it makes it even more special.  Then you also kind of "trap" those that already bought into the original XR.  You give them pre-order privileges so that they can secure the number they have for the next release.  Those people feel like they HAVE TO BUY IT!  Collecting bowling balls is a waste of money.

Well, that is one opinion.  :D
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on November 03, 2014, 06:13:58 PM
The new Vibe XR doesn't seem to be generating near as much excitement on Ebay as the original XR. The bidding has been luke warm to say the least. Looks like the party is over! At least until the NEXT limited release.  ;D ;D 


I bought three total, one I traded before I even received it, one goes into my "waste of money" Vibe collection.  :o  And the third one I have drilled and will be throwing tonight for the first time.



Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: jasont215 on November 03, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
Punched one up myself and it rolls pretty well. A little stronger than i was expecting.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: TheGom on November 03, 2014, 11:06:48 PM
Punched one up myself and it rolls pretty well. A little stronger than i was expecting.

I was afraid of this....I got one too, but I need a weaker type of ball right now.

What type of condition did you play it in and what would you compare it to?
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: luv2C10falll on November 03, 2014, 11:14:53 PM
The world is 80% dumb people. ... there's always enough to buy a hyped up, over priced , Must have , Next great ball !
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: jasont215 on November 04, 2014, 07:00:25 AM
Punched one up myself and it rolls pretty well. A little stronger than i was expecting.

I was afraid of this....I got one too, but I need a weaker type of ball right now.

What type of condition did you play it in and what would you compare it to?

Medium THS. It's comparable to a Brunswick Meanstreak brawler. Slightly cleaner and more down lane.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: milorafferty on November 04, 2014, 09:46:32 AM
I used my Vibe Infrared XR last night for the first time. It's not a dry lane ball, that's for sure.

Mine is drilled pin an inch above my ring finger with the cg straight under the pin. The shot is on the lighter side of a medium oil THS pattern. Nice ball, it has the typical solid cover roll with a nice arching path to the pocket with controlled move at the end of the pattern.

It won't have a place in my regular rotation as I have Motiv stuff that is much better, but it will be a nice curiosity to pull out from time to time.
Title: Re: The new XR vibe! This will be the best one yet!
Post by: dougb on November 05, 2014, 01:43:27 AM
I used my Vibe Infrared XR last night for the first time. It's not a dry lane ball, that's for sure.

Mine is drilled pin an inch above my ring finger with the cg straight under the pin. The shot is on the lighter side of a medium oil THS pattern. Nice ball, it has the typical solid cover roll with a nice arching path to the pocket with controlled move at the end of the pattern.

It won't have a place in my regular rotation as I have Motiv stuff that is much better, but it will be a nice curiosity to pull out from time to time.

Well if you ever decide to get rid of it I might drive over and take it off your hands.  That's a perfect set up for me to put a MOtion hole on it.