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Nicanor

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The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« on: August 21, 2007, 03:37:35 PM »
I think the NM Beatn is a great ball.  I have two as I mentioned in other post.

I took one down to 600 wet sand because I knew I'd see some oil tonight.  Not a flood, but the higher side of medium and fairly long.  I tried the sanded Beatn and the ball just didn't finish, just too long.  So just in case it was burning up, I threw the polished Beatn with less luck.  Again this is not a slam.

I talked with Chad a Buddies pro shop and he is sending me an Anger hopefully to read the mid lane better.  Any feedback and drilling recommendations would be great.

I track medium so I know that seems to make a ball go longer then if I tracked higher, but I don't trak high.  My PAP is 4 7/8 and 5/8 up.

Thanks.



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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2007, 11:44:06 PM »
I would put your favorite layout on the ball.
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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 11:46:42 PM »
A NMB at 600 and it wouldnt hook.  Not trying to be rude, but it would be less expensive to try a different line to the pocket
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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2007, 12:10:43 AM »
Are you sure the lanes you were bowling on didn't have massive carry down.   Did you play different parts of the lane?  

There have been times i've bowled on massive carry down where no ball would cut thru it.  This may be a reason for the ball not finishing.  The NMB is a strong back end ball and should handle heavier/long patterns pretty well.  The cover is pretty strong on the NMB.
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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 09:55:35 AM »
Thank you for the reply.  I almost had a shot with the Blue AMB Cebtaur Particle.  One thing about tracking medium to low is that oil is our enemy.  I like the way both NM Beatn's are drilled and the cover stock prep.  The Blue Vibe should get me a lighter oil ball and I'm hoping that the Anger fits between the Beatn and the AMB Centaur Particle.

Moved left-moved right but didn't have a shot till the almost the middle of the seecond game in a four game set.

Its possible they just put nwe oil over old oil and the carry down was there, but the Beatn wouldn't handle the cary down either if thats the case.

I think that the beatn being a long ball with a great back end reaction is true, but you need some dry boards to hit against.  The polished Beatn is a great swing ball as long as there is some head oil.  Too much dry boards leaves a lot of 10 pins.  But as long as I can move left and play the oil, the ball is great.  When I stop carrying with the polished Beatn I go to the Lane 1 Megaton Hybrid polished and that is a great transition ball, but still too strong for lighter oil.

Thanks for the input.  I know lessons are cheaper (you think itll you had lessons with John Jowdy )but we build arsenals for a reason.  If the bowling centers would put out the same shot every week just before league and after the open play, we would need to bring maybe two bowling balls into a house and maybe a spare ball.  But most centers around here you don't know what you're going to get from week to week.


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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 12:01:30 PM »
ehh i dont get something, sometimes when i see stuff not workin i compare it with something else. what did u mean by u "almost" had a game with the Blue AMB Cebtaur Particle?

and what part of the lanes u were playing?

if i sand a strong ball such as NMB, i would proly play a very straight shot on heavy and long oil instead of trying to hook it a lot, unless theres lots of backend
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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 01:32:23 PM »
I almost had a shot with the Blue AMB Particle because that ball is for a flood as seen at the BTM Tournament a couple of years ago  The AMB Particle was the only ball I seen hooking there and looked to have a nice arcing shot.  When I was watching the guy throw the ball, I knew nothing about the ball before then but bought one this past year at Nationals.  Very condition specific even though I drilled it weak as Frankie recommended.

I know bowlrs with higher tracks can handle more oil then I can so a ball that goes long by design with carry down on a long pattern might not work for me as it might for others.  Thats why I am trying to find a good drilling for the Anger.  Supposingly it picks up earlier in the mid lane and you can drill it to roll a little sooner.

Thats why I'm trying to get some fedback about drilling the Anger.


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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2007, 01:34:47 PM »
Go with a pin down drilling like you see Chris rolling on his Buddies video.
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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2007, 01:42:07 PM »
Nic's a lefty correct?  Take that into account.  Rev rate, tilt?
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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 06:28:16 PM »
No, I'm right handed and not new to the game.  this summer I averaged between 208 and 220 in four different leagues.

My rev rate is medium and my tilt is a question to me also.  I know I need to roll the ball more when the lanes are oily, but I have a tendency to get around the ball too much.

Thanks for the feedback.


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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 06:54:06 PM »
The No Mercy Beat'n curves like crazy for me. And I throw on a medium to heavy oiled house shot.
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Nicanor

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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2007, 07:03:31 PM »
Crusher,

I bowled with Pchee2 many times and he could swing the ball more than anyone I've ever seen and then next shot throw a frozed rope that didn't break at all.  So I know that different styles that read the lanes better and sooner than the way I release the ball.

My question that got lost through all this  "My NMB hooks a ton in oil" is what is the best way to drill the Anger to augment my NMB?


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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2007, 10:44:41 PM »
i agree with crusher.i throw on a med-heavy house shot also and my no mercy beatin hooks like crazy also.i can play as deep as i want with it.
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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2007, 12:46:21 AM »
I would suggest a resurgence or a NVS at 2k or lower, i have two NVS balls one in box and one at 2k. The 2k no polish ball is stronger than anything else i have used recently, the rotgrip quest would be another great choice.

I am sure Anger is going to good but if you do not have it coming consider these other choices, for me the no mercy skated a mile on slicker lanes.


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Re: The NM Beatn is not an medium/heavy ball
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2007, 09:31:02 AM »
quote:
 I know bowlers with higher tracks can handle more oil then I can so a ball that goes long by design with carry down on a long pattern might not work for me as it might for others. Thats why I am trying to find a good drilling for the Anger. Supposingly it picks up earlier in the mid lane and you can drill it to roll a little sooner.

Thats why I'm trying to get some feedback about drilling the Anger.




The ANGER is going to have more mid-lane than the NMB.  

The above statements are so true.  What may work for you may or may not work for others.  If you have a lot of tilt and or axis rotation from your release, the NMB may not be a good choice on heavier/long patterns.  

I would drill up the Anger with an earlier roll type of layout.  Place the pin strong since your going to use the ball on long heavier oil.  I would put the pin in the 3.5" to pap range.  I would also kick the CG out far enough to need a balance hole.  

I hope this helps.
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