Post by: bigdawgwill44 on March 02, 2008, 02:01:23 PM
Post by: themagician on March 02, 2008, 10:06:27 PM
I do find the BWP less suseptable to carrydown though it seems to labor at times.
I personally think the Doom is the way to go, but that is just my opinion from first hand observations.
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Post by: bigdawgwill44 on March 02, 2008, 11:04:57 PM
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Post by: bluerrpilot on March 03, 2008, 09:12:38 AM
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Post by: Fatboy8 on March 03, 2008, 09:21:19 AM
I use the BWP at 4000 abralon with no polish, and the Doom highly polished. Both are great balls, with specific purposes. The Doom surface might adjust better than the BWP, to accomadate more conditions though.
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Post by: bigdawgwill44 on March 03, 2008, 11:27:56 AM
Post by: chitown on March 03, 2008, 12:00:02 PM
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which ball do you think will be most angular on a medium to lighter mediums? Will the BWP burn up as opposed to the doom? Will carrydown be a factor with the doom?
Carrydown will cause problem for every single pearl ball on the market! With pearl equipment you need to go around the carry down.
I would think the BWP would be more angular because of the core but if drilled for flip the DOOM can snap hard on the correct conditions.
I never owned a BWP but have had many DOOMS. The DOOM is one hell of a bowling ball and takes to cover changes well. The DOOM is a very versatile and works well on tougher patterns.
Post by: chitown on March 03, 2008, 12:02:00 PM
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I agree with the Doom as well. And I will probably get flamed for this but.....If you take the cover down to even 4000 and no polish, it will be stronger than the BWP at the same grit, especially in the mid-lane.
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That doesn't surprise me at all! The DOOM is a very strong ball when the polish is knocked off the cover.
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Post by: crankncrash on March 04, 2008, 11:45:33 AM
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Post by: elzercat on March 05, 2008, 11:19:34 AM
That being said...I just got a BV this week and used it last night in league. I got the BV so it would be my medium to light ball. I had the ProShop drill it weaker. After last night...in which I threw a 714...this ball will be my medium ball. The BV is also a versatile ball and takes to cover changes really well.
I was also thinking of the BWP or DOOM, but went with the BV first to see what it does for me...then plan accordingly for my next ball in my arsenal.
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Post by: baspangler152 on March 05, 2008, 01:37:44 PM
Post by: chitown on March 05, 2008, 02:09:43 PM
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I've thrown them all and on a house shot my favorite ball to match your arsenal is probably a Cherry Vibe. Drill it stronger than your blue. It will retain energy and be phenomenal on medium oil. The Widow Pearl is quite strong. It needs fresh to be at its' best. The Doom isn't bad, but it seems to turn the corner and die on some shots. It gets the length, but doesn't seem to be any better than the Cherry Vibe.
I think your assessment of the DOOM is very different than what i've seen from that ball. If both balls are in box condition the DOOM is going to handle more oil than the Cherry Vibe. The DOOM also has more mid-lane read and is more of a controllable pearlized reactive.
I have never seen the DOOM turn the corner and die on any pattern. Are you sure the ball didn't hit a patch of carry down and slide out?
Post by: baspangler152 on March 05, 2008, 09:52:48 PM
I only threw it on medium-light oil with a wood surface, that's what the center is like where my shop is. Maybe it would work on medium oil with synthetic. Once I've made up my mind about a ball, though, I don't see much sense in continuing to throw it. I sold it to a gentleman who throws less revs and more speed than me and he seems to love it. I think it was just too much ball for medium-light. That is my hope. Hammer makes superior products, I just don't seem to match up with pearl covers on the Raw hammer core. I didn't like the Toxic either.
Post by: chitown on March 06, 2008, 08:04:12 AM
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Pretty sure. Not a lot of carry down on the left side last I checked. It would read violently off of the dry and roll out. Definitely NOT midlane read. It would use all of its hook at once and hit like a pumpkin.
I only threw it on medium-light oil with a wood surface, that's what the center is like where my shop is. Maybe it would work on medium oil with synthetic. Once I've made up my mind about a ball, though, I don't see much sense in continuing to throw it. I sold it to a gentleman who throws less revs and more speed than me and he seems to love it. I think it was just too much ball for medium-light. That is my hope. Hammer makes superior products, I just don't seem to match up with pearl covers on the Raw hammer core. I didn't like the Toxic either.
Sounds to me that the lanes you were rolling this ball on were way too dry for the DOOM. That's why you experienced roll out on the backend. Another indicator the lanes were too dry is the lack of carry. The one thing the DOOM does have over many bowling balls is it's hit and carry! For the DOOM to hit weak means the lanes were flat out toasted!
Post by: baspangler152 on March 06, 2008, 11:11:22 AM