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Title: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: chitown on January 28, 2009, 05:29:57 AM: What kind of bowling balls would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?

I wish Hammer would make a VIBE with a strong solid reactive cover. I would also like to have the exact core and specs as the other Vibes. So basically just add a strong cover.

I think it would be a big seller at the VIBES price point.

My Blue Vibe with it's cover brought down to 1000 grit handled heavier oil pretty well. I could only imagine how strong it would be with a stronger cover than the Blue Vibe.

The Blue Vibe is still one of the best bowling balls i've ever owned.

Edited on 1/28/2009 2:31 PM
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Leonidas on January 28, 2009, 01:42:39 PM: Maybe it sounds strange but i would like to see a vibe core in a clear ball. I don't know if its possible but if they could keep the cover clear and add some friction in to it (2000 and polish maybe?) i would get one. Like a Razyr with the opposite concept.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Matt Fortney on January 28, 2009, 02:47:23 PM: I would love to see them put the doom cover on the black widow core. actually...i wouldn't mind it if they re-released the doom. and the blue vibe.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Fatboy8 on January 28, 2009, 02:48:30 PM: I'd have to really think about it I guess. They've pretty much got it covered right now. A Razyr with not quite such an aggressive cover lol. That ball is SICK.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Myser on January 28, 2009, 02:53:32 PM: I would like to see:

1.)Pure Hammer (the black one preferably but any color would be ok)
2.)Blue Vibe re make
3.)Something with a medium-strong core and a weak cover (the opposite of the Razyr)

Overall Hammer's line is missing a ball with a weak cover, they have nothing for rev-dominate players to use on toast (we would like something better than the rayzr which is to angular when shined and doesn't hit when dull)
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: rymacatthedisco on January 28, 2009, 03:52:01 PM: purple vibe!!!
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: SVstar34 on January 28, 2009, 04:05:04 PM: quote:
I would love to see them put the doom cover on the black widow core. actually...i wouldn't mind it if they re-released the doom. and the blue vibe.

Bingo!! And maybe something along the lines of the Assault core with a plastic cover.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Gazoo on January 28, 2009, 04:54:42 PM: Vibe core with the No Mercy coverstock.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Doug Sterner on January 28, 2009, 04:57:21 PM: How about remaking the Sling Blade, Blade Pearl and Blade Solid?????
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Kid Jete on January 28, 2009, 04:58:37 PM: I can't believe one of the ebonite haters on this site haven't came in here and said, "a ball that lasts more than 20 games".
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: six pack on January 28, 2009, 05:00:37 PM: quote:
How about remaking the Sling Blade, Blade Pearl and Blade Solid?????
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: tuckingfenpin on January 28, 2009, 05:02:47 PM: We figured that was just too easy of a burn..

Really, it's the only thing most people have against Hammer. Myself included. They just don't have a reputation for longevity, but when they're new..good lawd!
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: FastTracker33 on January 28, 2009, 05:05:33 PM: quote:
How about remaking the Sling Blade, Blade Pearl and Blade Solid?????
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Let us add a Switch Blade to that list.

If they don't want to remake, then PLEASE, make something weak! The Razyr is NOT weak! I was able to use mine on any condition that had at least a hint of dry. I gave it away to a friend in need and replaced it with a Chainsaw. Now that ball is definition of weakest ball i've ever owned.

Although, i'm still lovin' up my first purchased Pyscho. What a ball.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: ChrispyBrownies on January 28, 2009, 05:09:00 PM: A NO MERCY WHUPN WITH BETTER COLORS!!!
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: crusher267658 on January 28, 2009, 05:12:12 PM: Every Hammer ball I have thrown has NEVER died out on me.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: cheech on January 28, 2009, 06:03:52 PM: a hook monster like a resurgence or virtual gravity shift.

from what ive seen the sauce is strong but on longer and heavier stuff its not as strong as advertised.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: strikecing on January 28, 2009, 06:28:24 PM: Get rid of the Sauce series will never buy a ball named that!!!
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: stormfanken on January 28, 2009, 06:30:56 PM: Personally I had the Black Widow and the Black Widow Bite and loved them both. What I would like is a ball with that kind of reaction that would last more than 50 games before losing its reaction. I am not the only person that had those balls that had the same complaint. But those balls were great balls out of the box.
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: MTD300 on January 28, 2009, 06:44:02 PM: I'd like a black or dark coloured Psycho. That bright orange is insane. But the ball rolls sick.

Also a solid razyr.
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: NJStroker on January 28, 2009, 07:39:22 PM: a light load particle pearl would be amazing
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Dewey24 on January 28, 2009, 07:47:09 PM: just bring back the blue vibe, buy a case of them, alter the surface on all of them and you have a ball that can cover just about anything
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: rockerbowler18 on January 28, 2009, 07:50:04 PM: Vibe core in the original black widow coverstock.

I'd put that crap at 2000 and have a field day. My problem, though, was longevity. Only got about 40 games out of the BW before it went south.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: azguy on January 28, 2009, 08:23:00 PM: Toxic core in a CT cover. Blue Vibe, Hawg Wild were both CT covers, great balls.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: los2003 on January 28, 2009, 09:40:45 PM: they did another run of blue vibes.. They are still being sold on some web sites.. Matt call one of your reps.. they should be able to get you one

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I would love to see them put the doom cover on the black widow core. actually...i wouldn't mind it if they re-released the doom. and the blue vibe.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: los2003 on January 28, 2009, 09:44:33 PM: I would like to see the whole viscious line and diesel lines come back especially the particles.. Also a couple urethanes.. 1 solid and 1 pearl
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: bluerrpilot on January 28, 2009, 10:19:23 PM: BRING BACK THE DOOM

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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: BubbaRay on January 29, 2009, 06:37:54 AM: I would have like or like to see a No Mercy with the Gas Mask Core. Can you imagine ?

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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: chitown on January 29, 2009, 07:08:44 AM: quote:
I would love to see them put the doom cover on the black widow core. actually...i wouldn't mind it if they re-released the doom. and the blue vibe.
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RIGHT! That would be awesome! The DOOM and BV are in my top 5 bowling balls of all time!
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: abrown on January 29, 2009, 07:10:47 AM: like to see them rerelease some of the old fab balls they still with a vibe core and the blues cover
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: chitown on January 29, 2009, 07:13:53 AM: quote:
I would like to see:

1.)Pure Hammer (the black one preferably but any color would be ok)
2.)Blue Vibe re make
3.)Something with a medium-strong core and a weak cover (the opposite of the Razyr)

Overall Hammer's line is missing a ball with a weak cover, they have nothing for rev-dominate players to use on toast (we would like something better than the rayzr which is to angular when shined and doesn't hit when dull)

Hammer could easily address this problem. All they need is a urethane cover with the VIBE core. Now that would work very well.

I have a Scout High Flare Urethane ball. It's the strawberry/ blue colored one. This ball works great on toasted conditions. Plus this ball has excellent pin action and carry on dry lanes. Plenty of energy at the pins. This Scout doesn't have the pancake weight block. It actually has a decent core and differential in it.

Maybe Hammer should just make a Black urethane Hammer remake.
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: chitown on January 29, 2009, 07:18:43 AM: quote:
just bring back the blue vibe, buy a case of them, alter the surface on all of them and you have a ball that can cover just about anything

I had 3 of them at one time. You can cover a ton of patterns with the Blue Vibe and a box of abralon pads.
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: abrown on January 29, 2009, 07:20:37 AM: no chi the blue with a vibe cover on it that would be a huge seller to alot of them old school hammer guys would buy them i'm not a big hamemr guy but hell i'd buy one or two, you walk in any league at the house i bowl at youl see several of them and a few buergandy
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: chitown on January 29, 2009, 07:24:42 AM: quote:
no chi the blue with a vibe cover on it that would be a huge seller to alot of them old school hammer guys would buy them i'm not a big hamemr guy but hell i'd buy one or two, you walk in any league at the house i bowl at youl see several of them and a few buergandy

Are you talking about making a blue urethane cover with the Vibe core? That would be cool.

I know several bowlers that have urethane bowling balls. Urethane is probably the best for dry lanes. If the urethane hooks too much then it's not even worth bowling on lanes that have that little of oil on them.
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: on January 29, 2009, 07:27:33 AM: I'd like to see a plastic ball with a core.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: dpunky on January 29, 2009, 07:44:55 AM: I would love to see the High Rev 3-D Offset again with the original core and coverstock....but that will never happen since Mo Pinel owns the rights to the Core.

I would like to see the Gas Mask Core (used in the Black Widows) with the Cherry Vibe coverstock

I would also like to see a Vibe with a hybrid solid/pearl coverstock.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: tomstewa on January 29, 2009, 09:18:54 AM: I would like to see a white marshmellow hammer. Like FAB use to make.
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: Jesse James on January 29, 2009, 09:29:46 AM: I was told that Hammer is only allowed to use the gas mask core in the Black Widow series, from here on out.....due to the sheer size of the core!
If they use it in any other series of ball, it may not be USBC sanctioned!

For me though, a vibe core in a hybrid coverstock or a urethane coverstock would probably do it, perfectly.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: SVstar34 on January 29, 2009, 09:30:20 AM: quote:
I'd like to see a plastic ball with a core.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: KingofKings696 on January 29, 2009, 10:15:33 AM: I would love to see something from them that is VERY weak but actually have a full core(such as an av pearl but with weaker cover). A true dry lane ball but with a core not pancakes.
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: los2003 on January 29, 2009, 10:20:16 AM: I wonder why?? They should have continued the big blue line.. instead of putting that core in the widows and just making them go long and longer.. thats not always the answer..maybe on a house shot but not in tourneys

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I was told that Hammer is only allowed to use the gas mask core in the Black Widow series, from here on out.....due to the sheer size of the core!
If they use it in any other series of ball, it may not be USBC sanctioned!

For me though, a vibe core in a hybrid coverstock or a urethane coverstock would probably do it, perfectly.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: LordWalrus on January 29, 2009, 10:25:22 AM: I'd like to see a urethane with a core, and gimme back the Doom.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: dave300 on January 29, 2009, 07:51:37 PM: BIG RIG DIESEL!!! Loved that ball....
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: thumper on January 29, 2009, 07:58:41 PM: Vicious Particle Pearl. Awesome ball.
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: BubbaRay on January 30, 2009, 06:24:38 AM: quote:
I was told that Hammer is only allowed to use the gas mask core in the Black Widow series, from here on out.....due to the sheer size of the core!
If they use it in any other series of ball, it may not be USBC sanctioned!

This I do not understand. What difference does the size The Gas Mask Core make inside of a BW series ball. The inside of the Widows are no bigger than the inside of the NM's. If the thickness of the coverstock is the difference they could alter the NM thinckness to accomodate the Gas Mask core. Being USBC sanctioned is another question. Af it makes the Widows approved it will make the NM approved.
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Edited on 1/30/2009 7:25 AM
Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: cheech on January 30, 2009, 11:58:06 AM: have all the vibes available at the same time. it would be a sick arsenal
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on the way maybe the sauce or momentum swing.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: dougb on January 30, 2009, 12:37:48 PM: What would I like to see from Hammer? A Hot Sauce Pearl in my hands!
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: SleepOnIce on January 30, 2009, 02:08:56 PM: Urethane Vibe would be amazing

Particle Raw Hammer would be cool, preferably with the Anger core, but either will work.
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Title: Re: What would you like to see from Hammer in the near future?
Post by: B-Team 300 on February 04, 2009, 08:06:37 AM: i agree on the sauce series, its an odd named series at best and i wont be buying any. But i would love a heavier oil ball. My bite was said to be that, but it never could cut it. i just need something at the head of this group: bite, pyscho, emerald vibe,razyr. and i dont agree with some people's opinion of the razyr, i love mine and it is easy on dry.
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