Post by: sundevil300 on August 04, 2004, 01:44:21 AM
"HAMMER SUCKS"
I cant believe that anyone throws them.
Post by: StormRoto on August 04, 2004, 04:56:16 PM
Post by: sundevil300 on August 04, 2004, 04:59:39 PM
Post by: Urethane Game on August 04, 2004, 05:03:59 PM
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Post by: StormRoto on August 04, 2004, 05:06:29 PM
So what tour do you bowl on ????
What do you think is the best company ???
Post by: sundevil300 on August 04, 2004, 05:10:05 PM
i have bowled a few pba regionals, but its hard cause i am in the military. hammer still sucks
Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 04, 2004, 05:19:01 PM
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Post by: bowlerstyle on August 04, 2004, 05:21:44 PM
Post by: BOWLGNUT on August 04, 2004, 05:43:40 PM
Post by: sundevil300 on August 04, 2004, 05:56:20 PM
i was just making a blanket statement, i'm sorry if you nerds read into everything that some one writes.
Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 04, 2004, 06:00:14 PM
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Post by: agroves on August 04, 2004, 06:36:54 PM
Andrew
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Post by: jkiser01 on August 04, 2004, 06:42:10 PM
Bingo, I couldn't agree with you more...
That comment is one of the dumbest I have seen posted on here in along time..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
jkiser01
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Post by: StormRoto on August 04, 2004, 07:22:27 PM
You can bash Hammer all you want, but remember opinions are like a- holes everyone has one.
This is a very good site for real bowlers sharing bowling information to help one another.
So do your self a favor and keep your negative comments to yourself....
Post by: janderson on August 04, 2004, 07:51:14 PM
Somewhat Edited on 8/4/2004 7:45 PM
Edited on 8/5/2004 6:12 PM
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on August 05, 2004, 02:08:24 AM
) And Sundevil300, you'll learn quickly that if you want to be a serious poster on this board, keep your dumb comments to yourself. I learned this the hard way, trust me. And another thing, you are very undisciplined, or at least you come off that way, for a soldier of the armed forces. What armed forces are you in, exactly? (just curious)--------------------
16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is!
The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior PrincessAnd why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Post by: anotherwindup on August 05, 2004, 08:09:15 AM
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i use storm/roto grip.
i have bowled a few pba regionals, but its hard cause i am in the military. hammer still sucks
For someone who aspires to be a professional and someone who should be disciplined you don't act in either fashion. Maybe you don't know how to bowl? Or maybe your ball driller can't layout a ball?
Maybe YOU just plain SUCK!!
Anytime, I'll bring my tool chest full of Hammers and I'll show you what a ball reaction and high scores look like.
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"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Post by: hammerman11 on August 06, 2004, 12:11:53 AM
I just wanted to add my two cents into this rather ignorant comment. I agree completely with the statements that the ball fits the bowlers style but also that each ball has a good match to various lane conditions.
I have been a hammer man for a very long time (Burgandy hammer, Spike , Spike HPT, Vicious Particle, and Vicious Strike) I just recently purchased the Big Block Diesel and believe me this is the best hammer ball on the market and could be the ball of the year amongst all manufacturers.
With this said, I did have some problems with Hammer recently. The Vicous Particle and Vicious Strike were excellent balls for the first 20 to 25 games then they died away. However, this is a product of being a particle and it is clear now that particle balls do not fit my style but rather a reactive resin ball.
There is a purpose for each ball as well. The Big Block Diesel is excellent ball to start with for house type shots and even short oil pattern PBA/Sport shots. However, the ball is not very good with long oil patterns, I am getting a Storm XXX extreme for that. When the oil carries down a little I use the Dyno-thane AU79.
So not only does the ball have to fit your style but the ball has to match the condition your throwing on as well.
I have also learned that it is very easy to blame the ball for everything but a vast majority of the time issues are a result of USER error.
Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 06, 2004, 06:28:48 PM
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Post by: DynoLess Daddy on August 06, 2004, 06:35:31 PM
Maybe you can share some of your reasoning with us?
then again.......maybe your right!!
Where are you from.....please don't say AZ
Edited on 8/6/2004 6:30 PM
Post by: fishnic on August 06, 2004, 06:45:50 PM
Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 06, 2004, 06:56:24 PM
sheab, is that the only ball u bought from them was a balde peral?
and the guy who talked about the big blues, did ur friends take care of them at all?
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Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 06, 2004, 07:06:08 PM
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Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 06, 2004, 07:18:47 PM
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Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 06, 2004, 07:26:53 PM
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Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 06, 2004, 10:38:58 PM
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Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on August 07, 2004, 01:57:18 PM
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is!
The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior PrincessAnd why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Post by: DynoLess Daddy on August 07, 2004, 11:42:28 PM
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Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 08, 2004, 02:20:09 PM
And then you say you like Toyota....omg....if you have a 4 banger that thinks its badass im just ganna go nuts
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Post by: Strider on August 08, 2004, 03:06:48 PM
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Post by: dirtbikebowler on August 08, 2004, 03:34:00 PM
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Post by: sdbowler on August 08, 2004, 04:53:20 PM
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nothing fancy or catchy to say in my signature
Post by: jkiser01 on August 08, 2004, 08:36:30 PM
I second that, with his statements in this post, he is an idiot!!
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
jkiser01
Post by: anotherwindup on August 09, 2004, 07:53:05 AM
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Yeah i'll knock Hammer all day long..like someone said before.."Hammer is making a come back.." Yeah...just proves that they were dead in the water..second of all...yeah sure Ebonite produces Hammer...big deal...Hammer just takes all the reject balls that Ebonite wants to put out..they figure just before releasing it..ahhh its not gonna sell..why not just give it to Hammer division..just send it down there and put their stupid little tool on it and lets see what they can do with it...ok now the point about Ebonite producing Hammer...that doesn't mean i'm knocking Ebonite AT ALL...hey if I hate Lexus does that mean I hate Toyota also? NO!!!..so til then understand that a forum is all about opinions..for the record I am not a left handed bowlers...DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THAT...but anyway...Ebonite is the best maker out there..considering the equipment they have given me for free..and the honor scores that I have earned using their equipment...and for the last time..Hammer sucks
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You Fear Me..
You are an absolute IDIOT!! I don't know how you can even begin to think that Hammer is an inferior company, and that they do not research and design their stuff. Brian Graham is the Product Manager, who used to work for Columbia. Ron Hickland is a ball designer for Ebonite/Hammer, who posts on this site, and those are two of the best in the business.
I actually don't want someone like you to throw Hammer. Man, you must be really good with your ONE 300 game and all. You must read ball reactions really well. (sense the sarcasm?)
KISS MY BIG BLUE BALLS!!!
Post by: BLaughlin on August 09, 2004, 04:47:05 PM
I am not sure how you can say there are no Hammer products being used in the Phoenix Area.You obviously haven't bowled any ACBA events. Hammer is everywhere in Phoenix.
You have a right to your opinion on a company's product.I am sorry you didn't have succes with Hammer products.
Here is a link to the ACBA website (azbowling.com)which will give you the schedule for the year thru Dec. Come show your skills to this beginner who is a Hammer user and staff member.
Have a good one.
Ben
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on August 09, 2004, 04:52:34 PM
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is!
The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior PrincessAnd why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Post by: janderson on August 09, 2004, 06:22:46 PM
Consider taking Mr. Laughlin up on his offer. I'll even sweeten the deal. If you can finish your first ACBA tournament higher than Mr. Laughlin, I'll personally buy you any top of the line bowling ball of your choosing.
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Kill the back row (or maybe this should read "make your spares, dummy")
Post by: Daytonstroker on August 09, 2004, 06:38:53 PM
It's always easier to point the blame on the ball. But a ball is just a tool, the bowler MUST know how to that tool properly in order to be successful!!!!!
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"To bowl or not to bowl that is the question"
Post by: TOON on August 10, 2004, 01:44:45 AM
As someone else said, KISS MY BIG BLUE ONES!!!
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TOON
Post by: Lane Bed on August 10, 2004, 02:17:47 AM
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Post by: Jeffrevs on August 10, 2004, 07:43:08 AM
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P.S. The only rotogrip i remember was Tommy Delutz Jr. And his RotoGrip ball didnt carry, and cost him the match if i remember correctly.
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AIM: Sir Bowlsalott
Yahoo: JustinGPyle
TENPIN-itis
I have a lot of balls.
That's right Justin ..it was the 'ball' that didn't carry.....[rolleyes]...that's as stupid as sundevils' comment!
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There is doing in not doing
Post by: Hammer3003 on August 10, 2004, 11:59:41 AM
Truthfuly I don't think hammer sucks, however I think the bowler that is spreading this does.
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Bowl To Win!!!
Post by: gtkpr31 on August 11, 2004, 01:25:39 AM
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i'm sorry but im sure that you average 170-180 Hammer is strictly for beginners and I'm way too advanced to bring myself down to your level.
I'm sorry sheab but I average 231 and I use all Hammer products. I have a Blade Pearl that is ALWAYS the first ball out of my bag and i have the big block diesel and the big blue pearl. They are all very good balls and they may not be good for you but I and an unmentionable amount of people love Hammer prodcucts. So to say that you are "too good" for a particular line is just being close minded and arrogant. I would never say any line or something "sucks," i would say that it didn't work for me or i just didn't like the reaction I was getting.
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This is struggle.
This is love.
This is war.
Post by: bowlerstyle on August 11, 2004, 01:29:31 AM
Post by: DynoLess Daddy on August 11, 2004, 06:06:06 PM
You still have them going. You two are terrible. I am going to tell your mother SB.
just kidding.
Bowlings ultimate goal!!!
Have fun and abuse the rest
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Post by: sundevil300 on August 13, 2004, 06:04:12 PM
dyno-thane guys dont cry, if you bash our equiptment.
C R Y B A B I E S !!!
Post by: icetink on August 14, 2004, 10:02:07 PM
Mmmmm, Oreos.......! What do you prefer, Oreos or Chips Ahoy (or anything else)?
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Post by: Lane Bed on August 15, 2004, 01:04:26 AM
See ya off for a fix right now.
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Post by: DynoLess Daddy on August 19, 2004, 03:42:42 PM
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My Dt likes to bash Shawn B.
note the truth>>>>>(Dt..1st .... Shawn 2nd)
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Post by: sundevil300 on August 19, 2004, 03:45:09 PM
you must be a hammer guy. if so your balls SUCK
if not...your balls still SUCK
BTW, I bought a hammer today. It cost me $2.00
Makes a great door stop!!!any one have a paper wt?
I almost forgot. I was in Sears and the guy said that Hammer sucks and craftsmen is better...Irony for you HAMMER GEEKS!!
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HAMMER SUCKS...IT REALLY REALLY SUCKS
those who use hammer equiptment , set themselves up for criticism.....G E E K S!!
Edited on 8/19/2004 3:40 PM
Post by: Daytonstroker on August 20, 2004, 10:34:15 PM
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"To bowl or not to bowl that is the question"
Post by: BadShot on September 17, 2004, 07:50:22 PM
regardless of which brand you make think is the best, any semi-intelligent bowler would have to agree that hammer has one of the best overall arsenals on the market. i do wish they had not discontinued all of the vicious series, however. IMHO, i don't think the big blues and the deal take the place of that awesome selection . . .
Hammer is pretty darn good!!!
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That which does not kill me makes me stronger . . .
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on September 17, 2004, 08:28:46 PM
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is!
The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior PrincessAnd why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!