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toomanytenpins

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wierd track on my no mercy
« on: March 01, 2007, 08:54:58 AM »
i just recently had my no mercy rejuvenated and resurfaced again to 1000 . the first night i tried to use it all i got was corner pins . the next time i used it was on a lighter and shorter volume of oil and the ball was really working nice. however i was aslo using weaker (on paper),balls with the same line and the same decent success,(hercules,track dry heat and an old turbo x).Any way why i am writing is because my no mercy looked like a ball of yarn with the track lines. The ball had flare lines all over it. it even tracked through between the fingers with a very prominent line. I had never seen such a wide array of flare lines. Has anyone else noticed tracking like this on their ball.
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phoenixheat

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Re: wierd track on my no mercy
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2007, 05:49:52 PM »
hmm.. and the only thing done was just a resurface and oil extract? almost sounds like someone drilled a balance hole some where and forgot to tell you.  but yeah never seen anything like that on any ball i've ever thrown.
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chitown

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Re: wierd track on my no mercy
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2007, 05:45:55 PM »
The NM does change ones track a small amount.  I know for me it pulled the flare rings a little closer to my thumb than normal.  No big deal though.  I love this ball.  It has a strong but arc reaction and hits really good.

If your leaving ten pins it's because of the angle your coming in at.  A small adjustment will get you taking out the 10.

One thing i've noticed about the NM is it needs oil.  Even when it's burning up it still hooks a good amount.  This may fool some in thinking that other weaker balls are just as strong.  That's not the case when you get on heavier oil.

I have been on conditions where my DOOM hooked about as much as the NM.  However, i've also been on conditions where the DOOM slide past the break point(every time) but the NM was hooking with a lot of power.

This is why bowlers should have benchmark bowling balls.  A good benchmark ball will let you know how much oil is on the lanes.  When I get to the lanes in league the DOOM is the first ball rolled.  This will let me know if a stronger ball is needed.

I'm not sure why some are having trouble with there NO MERCY.  I have had great success with mine.  I bowled on really crappy walled up house shot.  The pattern was broken down from a previous league.  There was a lot of over and under.  I was practicing so scores didn't matter.  I was using my NM and not doing very well.  The ball was actually burning up which was noticeable because of how weak the pin action was on off pocket hits.  I just think it's really important to match the cover with a lane pattern.


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six pack

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Re: wierd track on my no mercy
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2007, 06:08:31 PM »
I think this is why the no mercy has had alot of people crying that it dose'nt hook for them.put it in some oil and it's a beast!
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chitown

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Re: wierd track on my no mercy
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2007, 07:05:29 AM »
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I think this is why the no mercy has had alot of people crying that it dose'nt hook for them.put it in some oil and it's a beast!
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Your so right.  

Here's a great way of testing this ball.  Take your pearl bowling ball and see how it works on the lanes.  If your pearl is hooking a lot then chances are the NM should stay in the bag.

I can use my NM on heavy to med amounts of oil.  It really works well on med to long patterns.  Drier lanes and shorter patterns are not good for this ball.


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Re: wierd track on my no mercy
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2007, 08:40:21 AM »
chitown,

You have nailed the main reason for unhappy NoMercy(and other aggressive brand)ball owners. Got a guy that swears his Tropical Storm is stronger than his NoMercy. To prove it he even dulled his NoMercy with a burgundy scotchbrite. And the he proceeded to try to play up 5 board on a THS. Now he does turn the ball some( which made it burn up even quicker). I threw my OOB NoMercy and had to keep it around 12 and it exploded the pocket. If I got it through the center oil and out to 8 or so, it would still make pocket but be flat. Keep it in the oil and look out. If on a longer light to med pattern you can swing this ball and cover a lot of boards and look impressive and still carry great. But on a shorter pattern or extreme dry (wall) outsides, if you get it in the dry too soon it will arc out, hit the pocket, and yes...leave corners. It is not about how cool the ball can sweep 15 boards, if it can cover 4 boards and explode the rack, that's the ticket for me. Good post and great explanation.  Layout of pin too close to PAP(anything right of ring for most)just magnifies this problem due to max flare and or earlier roll.   Al
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chitown

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Re: wierd track on my no mercy
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2007, 02:21:38 PM »
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chitown,

You have nailed the main reason for unhappy NoMercy(and other aggressive brand)ball owners. Got a guy that swears his Tropical Storm is stronger than his NoMercy. To prove it he even dulled his NoMercy with a burgundy scotchbrite. And the he proceeded to try to play up 5 board on a THS. Now he does turn the ball some( which made it burn up even quicker). I threw my OOB NoMercy and had to keep it around 12 and it exploded the pocket. If I got it through the center oil and out to 8 or so, it would still make pocket but be flat. Keep it in the oil and look out. If on a longer light to med pattern you can swing this ball and cover a lot of boards and look impressive and still carry great. But on a shorter pattern or extreme dry (wall) outsides, if you get it in the dry too soon it will arc out, hit the pocket, and yes...leave corners. It is not about how cool the ball can sweep 15 boards, if it can cover 4 boards and explode the rack, that's the ticket for me. Good post and great explanation.  Layout of pin too close to PAP(anything right of ring for most)just magnifies this problem due to max flare and or earlier roll.   Al


Great reply.  Even though many don't understand that strong equipment like the NM will burn up and not hook as much or hit weak.  They don't seem to get it.

You also make a great point about strong layouts.  I put a decent amount of revs on the ball.  Most of my equipment has the pin 5" to 5.5" from my pap.  However, my controlled backend ball has the pin 4.5" from pap.  

I have 2 RAW HAMMER PAINS.  The PAIN is a strong mid-lane ball.  I have one drilled with the pin above the bridge(5.5" from pap) CG kicked right to 1oz and no balance hole.  My 2nd PAIN has the pin 4.5" from my pap, CG kicked right to 1oz and no balance hole.  Now right now these balls have different cover grits on them.  However if put at the same cover grit the 5.5" pin to pap PAIN will out hook the stronger pin to pap one.  WHY?  It's because of the flare and mid-lane.  The stronger one flares early because of the stronger pin position and die's on the back end.  The 2nd PAIN is great for overreacting back ends.

My point is if the strong ball is not working, like one thinks it should, then there's probably a good reason why.  

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It is not about how cool the ball can sweep 15 boards, if it can cover 4 boards and explode the rack, that's the ticket for me.


So correct!  It about carry not the amount of boards covered.
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phoenixheat

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Re: wierd track on my no mercy
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2007, 09:30:30 AM »
this happens with my black widow sometimes, catches too much traction and just rolls out on dry lanes.. so then i throw the vibe, that usually works beautifully, but when the lane is wet forget the vibe and bring out the BW b/c there is no way in hell my vibe will get back to pocket.
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