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Equipment Boards => Lane #1 => Topic started by: Zanatos1914 on February 26, 2013, 03:05:37 PM

Title: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on February 26, 2013, 03:05:37 PM
I am new with Lane 1 and purchased the Driod after keep my friends ball for about week but now its not giving the same response.. Has anybody else noticed a difference after using this ball a few games... I know how to change the cover stock but you should get the same response for at least 25 games.....

anybody else hear anything else on this ball...
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: charlest on February 26, 2013, 04:40:38 PM
And how many games did he use it before he "gave" it to you?

These new balls absorb oil like nobody's business. One guy noticed a loss in reaction in a Violent eruption, a polished pearl, after only 30 games. Dull, sanded balls are subject to more oil than a polished pearl under normal circumstances.

So it could have absorbed enough oil to affect its performance.

Additionally, balls need to have their surfaces refreshed on a regular basis. Some (like balls with a 4000 grit surface) need it much more often than one with a 1000/2000 grit surface.  One Storm rep even said that one of their new super-high performance coverstocks should significant wear after only 7 games!! That's crazy, but true.

The first thing I'd try is a surface refreshing. If that doesn't help, then I try an oil extraction.

Of course, all this is extraneous if the real change has been in the amount of oil put down by the house ....
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on February 26, 2013, 05:21:22 PM
WOW - The ball was purchased new - It might have 25 games at the most but wasn't expecting to have to resurface this soon.  Thanks for the quick input.... The ball was great but this was unexpected...
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: raidernation34 on February 26, 2013, 06:43:13 PM
The biggest thing with the solid Droid is that is really needs oil in the heads to shine, otherwise it burns up fast and hits kind of flat. I don't feel that cover matches up with that huge core real well, it is real condition specific. Now the Droid Pearl on the other hand is pure money, it gets down the lane great and finishes stronger than any other pearl that I have owned and I have owned a bunch.
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Dirty Bomber on February 27, 2013, 08:35:10 AM
i love the solid Droid its has a great mid lane read, mine is still kicking strong well after 100 games on it, did you try to clean it, like dish washer or have your proshop guy take the oil out of the ball.
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on March 04, 2013, 01:55:32 PM
Does this ball need a clean black end to respond agressive....
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: raidernation34 on March 04, 2013, 05:27:37 PM
My Droid Solid is drilled with pin about 2:00 cg and mass bias stacked and it is never real aggressive on the backend it is more mid lane and continuous in the back. But like I have said it really needs head oil or it will burn up in a hurry and hit real soft. Try throwing some polish on it to get it down lane and liven up the backend.
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Dirty Bomber on March 04, 2013, 09:56:04 PM
droid vid pin down   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y7mMYye0AU

 droid vid pin up    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZSPv4kKwgM
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on March 05, 2013, 10:41:53 AM
Thanks for the responses -- The ball is currently sanded up to 4000 and does have some polish -- Will attach a screen shot of the pin location when I get home... Also the ball has almost a 4inch pin...  My house doesn't have clean backend and oil gets pushed down... I might try sanding to 3000 with a good polish...  The pin is near the right side also....

Please keep in mind I AM 2 finger bowler with speed....

Thanks....
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: raidernation34 on March 05, 2013, 02:16:01 PM
2000 is the OOB finish. Normally higher speeds need more surface to perform, try going back to 2000 and even try 1000. I have had great success with my heavier oil balls at 1000, I think if you throw some polish on either 1000 or 2000 you will find the back end you are looking for. But again make sure you have enough oil for this ball it is very dependent on it in the heads to rev up that big core.
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on March 06, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
here is a copy of the layout
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on March 12, 2013, 11:26:08 AM
Sorry but this ball doesnt hook in heavy oil....  Great for high backend but not really a heavy oil ball -- Just giving you what I have seen after a few games...  the first 55 games a beast but now its over...  Even sanded the ball to 2000 -- My oldblack Zone checks up before this ball....
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: lifted rillo on March 12, 2013, 12:40:51 PM
From what I've seen, Lane #1 (among others) greatly exaggerates the oil-handling capabilities of bowling balls. This ball is a medium/medium-heavy oil ball. At best it will handle a little more oil than a house shot, but it won't handle a lot of oil. A friend of mine has a Big Curve. Same thing you're seeing, except his never hooked a lot. It hooks the same amount on light to heavy and has the same motion as well.
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on March 12, 2013, 01:42:04 PM
Thank you - Was just double checking  since this was my first Lane 1 and expectation was very high...
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: lifted rillo on March 12, 2013, 01:55:44 PM
I completely understand. This friend I'm talking about has the same span as I do, so I throw his stuff to see how it would roll for me. The only one of his that hooked for me was a cobalt bomb solid. Even then, it wasn't a whole lot.
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: raidernation34 on March 12, 2013, 02:00:53 PM
Try sanding the cover down to 360 abralon and remove the oil (I usually use a hot water bath) then hit it with 500 abralon followed by 2000 abralon. If you have changed the cover at all and gotten the underlying grits out of sorts that could be what is killing the ball. after the 500 sanding hit for only 8-10 secs on 4 sides with the 2000 to keep the teeth from the 500 there for the midlane.
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: raidernation34 on March 12, 2013, 02:05:30 PM
I am some what speed dominant and have no trouble getting any of my Lane#1 gear to hook on any condition. The biggest thing I have noticed since 900 Global started pouring them is that they are more condition specific heavier oil balls tend to burn up more now when used on lighter conditions where some of the older releases would just hook off the lane if there wasn't enough oil for their purpose.
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on March 12, 2013, 07:09:05 PM
I have come to realize this ball is what it is.... Its a great asset for shot pattern because it doesnt over react and so that is what it will be used for only... LANE 1 is really wrong for this....
Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on March 29, 2013, 05:56:34 PM
Another update....
Sanded the ball down to 2000...

This ball needs oil in the mids and the backend has to clean or short shot...

Title: Re: Droid Question
Post by: Zanatos1914 on April 26, 2013, 03:01:46 PM
Okay - This is not a banishing thread....

After several games and tournaments with this ball my results stands as the following... This is not a heavy oil ball but great for those houses with high backend and front oil... It gives a move that my other balls don't... It can say its very unique in the way it moves when it hits a dry board after a few seconds.....