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triggerman

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« on: June 21, 2007, 05:55:38 AM »
here you all go, got this off the lane 1 website, posted by the man himself

I'm pleased to announce that Lane #1 has reached an agreement with 900 Global to manufacture our bowling balls. I want to give a big thanks to Mike Sellers and his staff for putting this new facility together, as the bowling industry needs new and fresh ideas, as well as not losing any of the knowledge that's been gained over the years. I had a great relationship with Mike and the staff at Columbia 300, so i'm glad to be associated again with him and their former employees.

The sale of Columbia 300 to Ebonite really shook up the industry, as well as Lane #1. With the dwindling down of ball manufacturers, I was pleased to hear that Mr. Sellers was preparing to upstart a new ball manufacturing facility with some of the former employees of Columbia 300.

Even though this is a new company, it really isn't. I like working with these guys because of their experience and innovation in the industry over the past 40+ years. Their quality control was impeccable. Combined with using BASF resins along with my cores, our balls seem to match perfectly to today’s environment. I'm exited to be associated with 900 Global and looking forward to continuing our great tradition of producing only the finest bowling balls as well as helping grow 900 Global to be a staple in the industry.

I'd like to thank all of our customers for being patient with our decision. Everyone, have a great summer and hope you all look forward to our new ball designs for the upcoming season. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Richie Sposato
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2007, 03:14:51 PM »
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They might rehash soaker, but I'd expect to see new stuff.


Phil has played his Soaker cards very close to his chest.  When DT was a part of Storm, then when it was merely made by Storm, then Columbia, Soaker was always Phil's and Phil's alone.  There were no non-DT balls that had Soaker covers and I very much doubt that Lane 1 will be allowed to use Soaker covers.

It's hardly the end of the world, though.  DT's had their own covers for a long time, they weren't using Storm or Columbia covers.  900 Global will have non-Soaker covers for their mid-priced and possibly some high-end balls (the original Threshold was non-Soaker).

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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2007, 03:18:16 PM »
my point being is Phil in an innovator in the rhelm of coverstocks, that coupled with lane #1's desire for something new, coupled with a chemist will without doubt produce some great coverstocks for lane #1 to go with some of Richies new core ideas
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2007, 03:24:55 PM »
At the very least, bowlingnut, themezz, and all the others who claim to have inside bowling industry scoops should go back to the drawing board. Their so called informants collectively went up in a cloud of smoke on this one.

Regardless, logic should have told anyone with Chicken Little syndrome that Lane#1 was going to land on solid ground somewhere. Viable money making operations with great products and loyal customers just don't vanish from the landscape. Somehow that was lost in all the worthless speculation.

I'm looking forward to the next generation of Lane#1 balls, which are some of the best available. It was a tough adjustment period for Lane#1, but in the long run, I think this association with 900 Global is going to work out really well.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2007, 04:23:11 PM »
I APOLOGIZE TOO ALL LANE 1 AND BALLREVIEW MEMBERS THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN ENOUGH SAID SORRY


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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2007, 04:45:53 PM »
a_ak57,

You wrote that 900Global will not use Lane 1 cores.  I thought that 900 Global would pore Lane 1 balls using 900Global coverstocks and Lane 1 cores.

As you can tell I am a little bit confused.  I am looking forward to returning to Lane 1 bowling balls and hope the new core/coverstock work out better then it did with the Columbia/Lane 1 cores.  That is for me and my bowling.  Many bowlers I'm sure thought the Co;umbia/Lane 1 combination was great.  I just wasn't one of them.


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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2007, 04:59:30 PM »
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You wrote that 900Global will not use Lane 1 cores.  I thought that 900 Global would pore Lane 1 balls using 900Global coverstocks and Lane 1 cores.


900G won't use Lane 1 cores any more than Brunswick used Lane 1 cores in their balls when they were making Lane 1.  Lane 1 cores go in Lane 1 balls, don't matter who supplies or pours the coverstock.

It would be misleading to say that Brunswick uses Morich cores.  Or that Storm uses RG cores.  They pour the coverstock, that's it.

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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2007, 05:09:35 PM »
This is good news. I wish Lane #1 much success.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2007, 05:29:50 PM »
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Will Global 900 actually be able to use the Columbia 300 coverstocks?  Since Ebonite bought C300 does that mean they also acquired sole rights to the C300 coverstocks?  Just curious since I don't really know all of the legal issues involved in regards to the Ebonite/C300 contract.
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It all depends on what the contract states, Ebonite could have bought everything from names to designs to formulas, just names, who knows.  And since it was a sale between two privately held companies, I doubt we will ever really know.

900 Global will be fine with or without the C300 coverstocks.  Phil came up with more than a couple good coverstocks and I'd bet money he's got more than a few tricks left up his sleeve.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2007, 06:53:42 PM »
sounds very interesting i will always support lane 1 long live the saws
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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2007, 08:19:34 PM »
I remain confused as to why people insist on saying that Lane#1 will use "COLUMBIA" coverstocks.  

As far as I have learned, BASF  had supplied all the resin that HAD BEEN made into coverstocks for the balls MADE UPON THE COLUMBIA300 manufacturing line. That included, at the end, Columbia300, Track, AMF300, and Dyno-Thane. While some of them probably shared some of the coverstock formulations, I sincerely doubt that they all used the exact same resin formulas.

I can only presume that the same will be true in the future: AMF300 will not use Lane#1's precise coverstock formulations will not use Dyno-Thane's formulations or whatever other brand Mike Sellers and Phil Cardinale decide to market.

I also presume that the Lane#1 designers will use whatever resin they find in BASF's catalog which will suit the purposes of the ball's they wish to design. The same will be true for AMF300. They may even share some but who cares, as a ball is not the cover and is not the core but is always a combiantion of both.

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2007, 09:39:00 PM »
Screw who makes it, what's it gonna cost?  Is it really fair to get the same BASF Superflex that they used on the messengers and scouts in a 10 year old core and still cost $50-70 more than the other high end performance balls, and $70-100 on mid & lower mid price balls on the market?
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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2007, 10:21:43 PM »
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Screw who makes it, what's it gonna cost?  Is it really fair to get the same BASF Superflex that they used on the messengers and scouts in a 10 year old core and still cost $50-70 more than the other high end performance balls, and $70-100 on mid & lower mid price balls on the market?
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You're making unwarranted assumptions.
1. that you'll still get Super-Flex, and
2. that Super-Flex is more expensive than other coverstock, and
3. that Super-Flex is no longer any good.

Between Super-Flex and PK 18, you have 90%, maybe 95% of all honor scores shot in the past 15 years!
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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2007, 10:28:58 PM »
Which is all true....but I feel there should be dramatic price increases when extensive R&D is warranted.  Granted Lane 1 has a "proven" core and BASF resins are a "proven base", but should you be paying higher than a premium standard for something put together out of the same materials that have been around foreveer?  You wouldn't pay the price of an Alienware packaged CPU if it had a Pentium II processor and 8MG graphics card just because the exterior is all shiny and sharp looking.  Yeah you'll still be able to get most things done as you normally would, but the other guys have stuff that costs almost half the price and is putting out more performance(arguably).
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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2007, 12:49:29 AM »
Yeah, and I wished I could have said this 2 days ago when I knew it first hand, but was sworn to secrecy.  Everyone who thought Richie would need to crawl to ANYONE was so wrong, and wait til you see what they have cooking in the works.  Lane 1 will emerge better and stronger than ever.  

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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2007, 03:53:04 AM »
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 There were no non-DT balls that had Soaker covers



the Track Phoenix had a soaker coverstock
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