Author Topic: heads up saw users (Read 16056 times)

triggerman · « **on:** June 19, 2009, 01:34:50 AM »

two new releases coming out next week, one of them will floor you. I was totally amazed at this decision. Think its been a long time coming. not sure on release dates yet, but for me both are great sounding additions
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:43:16 AM »

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And more evidence that Steven is nothing more than a Lane #1 fanboy who might try out a few other things here and there, not an impartial "polyglot" who happens to prefer Lane #1

Regardless of which way Steven may be, why does it bother you so much that you make a post about it? I thought the purpose of this forum was about bowling, balls, helping people asking for help and etc. and not a forum for bashing people and/or a product you don't like for personal reasons.

It is really sad that a person can't come to the BR site anymore without seeing someone bashing someone or bashing a company in place of reading positive informative posts and trying to learn something as this site was intended to be when it first started.

I simply don't see what pleasure people get out of bashing people and companies. Maybe it is inmaturity of the people that constantly bash, I don't know.
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holland1945 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2009, 11:40:00 AM »

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And more evidence that Steven is nothing more than a Lane #1 fanboy who might try out a few other things here and there, not an impartial "polyglot" who happens to prefer Lane #1

Regardless of which way Steven may be, why does it bother you so much that you make a post about it? I thought the purpose of this forum was about bowling, balls, helping people asking for help and etc. and not a forum for bashing people and/or a product you don't like for personal reasons.

It is really sad that a person can't come to the BR site anymore without seeing someone bashing someone or bashing a company in place of reading positive informative posts and trying to learn something as this site was intended to be when it first started.

I simply don't see what pleasure people get out of bashing people and companies. Maybe it is inmaturity of the people that constantly bash, I don't know.
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It bothers me because Steven, in his profile and other forums, presents himself as some impartial and objective helper. I don't like astroturfing when it's Microsoft and I don't like it when it's Lane #1 either, or ANY brand. If you're a shameless brand devotee fine, but don't portray yourself as something you're not.

When you're excited about a bowling ball which you know NOTHING about...that makes you a shill. And in my opinion ridiculous, but that's neither here nor there.
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Steven · « **Reply #33 on:** June 20, 2009, 11:41:05 AM »

Brick: Thanks for the attempt at trying to bring some sanity to posting. Unfortunately my friend, the intended audience for the message has deaf ears.

Now, for Holland:

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And more evidence that Steven is nothing more than a Lane #1 fanboy who might try out a few other things here and there, not an impartial "polyglot" who happens to prefer Lane #1

Whatever. Try as you might to frame me with the 'Lane #1 fanboy' label, I take no offense to it. I have a solid Hammer/Columbia mix to compare my Lane#1 equipment against. I've done my homework, and I feel comfortable being more in the fanboy camp. Someday, when you're not constrained by a "five dollar foot long" lifestyle, you too might be able to compare and make informed judgements.

The Dynamo is one of the finest balls Lane#1 has ever developed. So it's not a reach to plan on picking up the Dynamo X2 without waiting a bit.
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #34 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:11:15 PM »

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It bothers me because Steven, in his profile and other forums, presents himself as some impartial and objective helper. I don't like astroturfing when it's Microsoft and I don't like it when it's Lane #1 either, or ANY brand. If you're a shameless brand devotee fine, but don't portray yourself as something you're not.

Holland, when you say "you", I take that to mean me. I have said nothing to give you reason to accuse me of .... "If you're a shameless brand devotee fine, but don't portray yourself as something you're not." .... If you will look at my profile, I have 6 drilled balls in my arsenal that I am currently using with only 2 of them being Lane 1, so back off on your accusations against me here.

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When you're excited about a bowling ball which you know NOTHING about...that makes you a shill. And in my opinion ridiculous, but that's neither here nor there.

Again, you are falsely accusing me again. People make same and similar statementss in the other ball forums all of the time and I don't see you bashing them. And in reality there is nothing wrong with anyone being excited about a ball coming out from any company. Happens all the time with a lot of bowlers with all companies.

It is time for people to quit stalking people that want to post positive things in the Lane 1 forum. If they don't like good things being said about Lane 1 and hate Lane 1 that bad, then don't come here. Simple as that. Or better yet, put the people you don't like on your ignore list and then you won't have to read what they say and get upset everytime they post something....and BTW, I am not a shill......

Let me end here by saying if you have an issue with Steven, then that is between you and him and doesn't concern others on this site, so the proper thing to do is message him and discuss it with him personaly since it is a personel thing, rather than go public with it. What's the point of going public when you have a grudge with someone? It doesn't concern the public.

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Edited on 6/20/2009 2:22 PM

holland1945 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 20, 2009, 04:50:27 PM »

I'm talking about Steven, not you Brickguy.
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pin-smasher · « **Reply #36 on:** June 20, 2009, 05:53:19 PM »

Reading these lane1 posts makes me glad i tossed all my lane1 stuff in the trash.blah blah blah blah........

pin-smasher · « **Reply #37 on:** June 20, 2009, 06:10:50 PM »

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maybe the most well executed shot you have ever made....

I think it was since i dont match up with lane1 at all.If lane1 works for people than thats cool but for me my ave went down 15 pins when i went to lane1 so i out it went and went back to using storm and ebonite and ave went right back up and also my tsunami and cobalt both cracked and when i contacted lane one they told me the crack wasnt that bad,never had a problem getting a ball replaced with storm or ebonite...

DP3 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 20, 2009, 06:33:03 PM »

Strong MB assymetric pearl that's not diamond shaped. Hmm.
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BeansProShop · « **Reply #39 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:48:43 PM »

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I agree with 2 of the senior posters here....

Triggerman.,..yes the new ball is a total shock and one I was not suspecting...one I had been asking for but never expected to see. I am soooo stoked!!!!!

Beans...you are also correct my friend....unfortunately I am one of teh guys who dug into your Lane 1 sales and for that I apologize. Back when teh Cherry Bomb was king I remember selling them on ebay and clearing $35 per ball after fees and shipping. What happened to those days? Shipping went up, fees went up and there are way more people trying to get their slice of the pie. Ever wonder why I am not on here fighting for all of the new ball sales? It just isn't worth it anymore. Seeing people sell the balls shipped for the same price I see listed on the pro shop price sheet sucks. I, like you, will bend over backwards for my repeat customers who respect me, my business and the knowledge I can give them. I feel that has to be worth something but then what do I know? I am just a $35,000 annual pro shop. 3 years ago I did $35,000 ONLINE alone, plus another $25,000 in local sales. I am still one of the little guys and Lane 1 is one of the few manufacturers who has taken care of us over the years....now there are other companies who are following suit with special "brick & mortar pro shop only" offers.

I also agree with Beans on the count that there are way too many people who say "comp me a ball and I'll see how many I can sell for you." I have gotten comped one of each new Lane 1 releases for like the last 4 years.. When Iheard about the Chainsaw Massacre coming out I told Chuck not to bother sending me one since it was too late in the season to gain any sales and the summer leagues won't support that type of ball reaction.

Lots of new and exciting stuff on the horizon....I can't wait...
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It's just business. No matter what industry you're in...If you have a good idea or a good product that is hot. Everyone is going to copycat you. I can't fault anyone for that. It jsut makes you stay ahead of the game.

Beans
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BeansProShop · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:52:25 PM »

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Why bring my name into it?

I don't care what someone else sells balls for. I don't care what you pay for balls. I don't care about who's core is stronger and if there is ever going to be a core based out of anything but a diamond. If this is the only thing in this industry that gets you wired JLS then you have major problems..

I have to compete with 3 pro shops in my area that drill balls for $20 more than cost and that includes grips and slugs. If I'm going to survive in this industry I am going to sell online and keep building my customer base from out of state bowlers.

You want to get balls at deep discounts? Sell large quantities. 80% of people complained when Lane#1 had the highest prices and never gave discounts no matter what. They changed that and allowed everyone to sell at what they wanted. Now the same people are bitzing about people selling balls for $5 profit. I was the first Lane#1 online retailer in the USA regardless of what you hear from anyone. I had that all locked up. Then other people jumped on my bandwagon and started digging into my sales. Then some more, and some more and more, etc. Now everyone is competeing for a $10-$20 profit. Why do you not complain about Buddies Pro Shop and Bowlingball.com selling their Storm,Brunswick and Roto Grip for cheaper than I can buy them for???

I do not hear you ever complain about that. EVER!!

There are many problems with this industry that need to be fixed. You happen to be one of the problems. You're the guy that says," If you send me a ball for free....I can promote your products and get them sold up here in my area." There are far too many pro shop operators like that too.

I can't rely on the bowling business to support myself and my family any longer as I refuse to fight over a $5-$10 profit sale. Thank god I have bread routes as my full time income.

I make more money plugging balls that are drilled by hacks then I do selling new balls. What is wrong with that picture???

Beans
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Since you are in it now Beans, I think even more than the sleight of hand about prices of balls, the fact that Lane #1 bought out the sauce and immediately jacked up the price is a crying shame.
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It was my decision to sell the product and when they bought it it was theirs to do what they please. I still get residuals so I still have a vested interest in the success of the product. Did I make the correct decision in selling the product??? I don't know. I was happy with the offer and accepted it so it is Lane#1's to distribute it as they wish. I certainly think the product is worth the money.

Beans
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BeansProShop · « **Reply #41 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:54:44 PM »

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Why bring my name into it?

Why do you not complain about Buddies Pro Shop and Bowlingball.com selling their Storm,Brunswick and Roto Grip for cheaper than I can buy them for???

I do not hear you ever complain about that. EVER!!

Beans
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You must not have been looking because he did nothing but that for about 2 weeks. He ripped a couple major labels fo rallowing their stuff to be sold online under base pricing.

I wasn't looking because I rarely venture into the other rooms. I am a Lane#1 guy so I spend most of my time here. But, he spent 2 weeks complaining about the other companies that he sells and he spends 2 months complaining about Lane#1 products he doesn't sell.

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Beans
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holland1945 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 21, 2009, 06:32:52 AM »

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Why bring my name into it?

I don't care what someone else sells balls for. I don't care what you pay for balls. I don't care about who's core is stronger and if there is ever going to be a core based out of anything but a diamond. If this is the only thing in this industry that gets you wired JLS then you have major problems..

I have to compete with 3 pro shops in my area that drill balls for $20 more than cost and that includes grips and slugs. If I'm going to survive in this industry I am going to sell online and keep building my customer base from out of state bowlers.

You want to get balls at deep discounts? Sell large quantities. 80% of people complained when Lane#1 had the highest prices and never gave discounts no matter what. They changed that and allowed everyone to sell at what they wanted. Now the same people are bitzing about people selling balls for $5 profit. I was the first Lane#1 online retailer in the USA regardless of what you hear from anyone. I had that all locked up. Then other people jumped on my bandwagon and started digging into my sales. Then some more, and some more and more, etc. Now everyone is competeing for a $10-$20 profit. Why do you not complain about Buddies Pro Shop and Bowlingball.com selling their Storm,Brunswick and Roto Grip for cheaper than I can buy them for???

I do not hear you ever complain about that. EVER!!

There are many problems with this industry that need to be fixed. You happen to be one of the problems. You're the guy that says," If you send me a ball for free....I can promote your products and get them sold up here in my area." There are far too many pro shop operators like that too.

I can't rely on the bowling business to support myself and my family any longer as I refuse to fight over a $5-$10 profit sale. Thank god I have bread routes as my full time income.

I make more money plugging balls that are drilled by hacks then I do selling new balls. What is wrong with that picture???

Beans
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www.beansproshop.com
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Thomas "Beans" Biniek Jr.
PBA Member and Lane#1 National Sales Manager and Lane#1 Ball Drilling Expert
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Since you are in it now Beans, I think even more than the sleight of hand about prices of balls, the fact that Lane #1 bought out the sauce and immediately jacked up the price is a crying shame.
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It was my decision to sell the product and when they bought it it was theirs to do what they please. I still get residuals so I still have a vested interest in the success of the product. Did I make the correct decision in selling the product??? I don't know. I was happy with the offer and accepted it so it is Lane#1's to distribute it as they wish. I certainly think the product is worth the money.

Beans
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Don't get me wrong Beans, I don't fault YOUR business decision, and it's certainly a good product (and FWIW I'm still on a small bottle I bought from you pre-Lane #1) and certainly SOME price increase is to be expected with two entities trying to make profit from the same product...I just found the amount of the increase obscene, that's all.
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triggerman · « **Reply #43 on:** June 22, 2009, 08:03:00 AM »

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I wonder if Lane #1 is going to have Kevin Blackmer make a video using the new releases.......

maybe I will do it so everyone can see even crappy form bowlers can find the hole too

all kidding aside, the second release is gonna be a shock to some
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jls · « **Reply #44 on:** June 22, 2009, 01:25:15 PM »

Hey Beans, about a month ago I posted that a customer brought in a Chainsaw that he bought for $120 shipped................

And you Beans asked what shop he got it from....cause you were questioning the price...............

As for the Core, That was someone else bringing that up...

So get off your high horse Beans with "why bring"

You asked..............

just in case you wanted to know

now

are we clear....

And I agree with Holland... About the price increase on the sauce....

btw Beans..... Motiv sells their polish for about $10.00... And that is for a 16 oz bottle.... not a 4 oz or 8 oz....

Since your the National Sales manager.... thought you might want to know...

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BeansProShop · « **Reply #45 on:** June 22, 2009, 01:49:32 PM »

YAWN.........

I'm so bored!!!

I could give 2 squirts what Motiv sells and how much they sell it for.

It has no affect on me in any way!

Beans
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