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A_P_K

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Discontinued Super Carbide?
« on: April 18, 2003, 04:35:33 PM »
I would just like to know why they discontinued this ball.  Was it because it ws a little on the old side or was there a problem with the ball nobody wanted to admit to?
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BT

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2003, 07:55:01 AM »
What? Where did you hear this?


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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2003, 09:23:26 AM »
No problems with the ball.   I heard it was merely a decision to replace it when the super carbide bomb came out. No conspiracy here.

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2003, 10:55:13 AM »
I also heard the Super Carbide Bomb replaced the Super Carbide.  I use both balls and the Super Carbide Bomb is definately stronger than the Super Carbide.
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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2003, 09:17:30 AM »
BT, nothing that I heard about the ball, I just picked one up through this site and I was wondering why it was discontinued.  I wasted money on the Freak, which is absolutely dead now, and I don't want this to be the same way.  I wish I could buy the Super Carbide Bomb, but I don't come close to the amount of oil needed to use that.  Hopefully what I get from the Super Carbide is a strong enough ball on MED-Heavy oil, with some flexibilty on MED-Light also.  It was a purchase made to replace an older ball I own.  (stats are similar)
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BT

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2003, 09:21:27 AM »
What happened to your Freak? Was it used when you bought it?

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2003, 09:43:48 AM »
No, I bought the Freak the same day it was released.  It started out very strong, but I used it way too much.  It has like 100+ games on it, and now is deader than roadkill.  I used it for one complete winter season.  My problem was I tried to only use the Freak, taking advice from someone I probably shouldn't have.  Now my Buzzsaw XL hooks more than the Freak.  I am skeptical about buying another particle ball now, even though I got the SC.
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BT

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2003, 09:56:26 AM »
What kind of maintenance do you perform on ALL of your balls? I have experienced similar problems but after learning how to keep them up I have less problems. Do you clean the ball after each set? Ever resurfaced the Freak?

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2003, 10:09:46 AM »
I clean all of my equipment after every 3 games.  I only use alcohol on it, I have a TKO Contender also, which is supposed to be a particle ball too, and after 4 years, never resurfaced, and major gashes in it, it out hooks the Freak.  I clean the Contender with alcohol, and polish it for better results.
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BT

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2003, 10:17:08 AM »
I may be wrong but, I don't think alcohol is good for any coverstocks! I think others will chime in on the use of alcohol and, it's affects on balls. I only use cleaners designed for bowling balls, except for 409 which I dont think hurts the ball in any way. A pro shop owner once told me to never use alcohol!

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2003, 10:49:17 AM »
Alcohol is not an effective degreaser, but I doubt that it will hurt the coverstock like acetone will.  Simple green and citrus degreasers are your best cheap cleaners.  Use them right after league every night.  Dedicated bowling ball cleaners like NeoTac's Hook It will pull even more grime out of the ball.

If you think the ball is dead, remove the oil.  If you don't have access to  a proshop with a Reviver, soak it in hot tap water with some Dawn dishwashing liquid.  Pull the ball out every 5-10 minutes and wipe it off with a clean towel.  Replace the bath's water if a noticeable amount of oil can be seen.  Repeat until no fresh oil is seen in the water or on the ball's surface.  Let the ball dry (upside down to let the holes drain) for a few hours.  Clean the ball thoroughly, get a resurface if necessary, and the ball should see a dramatic improvement.  I would also suggest applying Doc's Magic Elixir (http://home.attbi.com/~docsmagic/) to any ball (especially particle) used for heavy oil.
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A_P_K

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2003, 04:33:13 PM »
Anyways, back to my main question.  Shaggy mentioned the SCB is definitely stronger than the SC, but is the SC still a strong ball for MED-HEAVY oil?   Could it also be controllable on MED-DRY oil?  Just a bit curious, because I had great felxibility using my polished Contender.
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Doug Sterner

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2003, 05:50:34 PM »
With a similar drilling the SCB will outhook the SC significantly.

The SC when polished is an excellent all around ball. YOu will need some ball speed though. I am not talking warp 5 or anything here but you will need head oil and a solid game to make it work.

If you are having 2nd thoughts, would you be interested in swapping it off before you drill it??? I might have something you might work better for you.

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Re: Discontinued Super Carbide?
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2003, 05:36:05 PM »
The super carbide bomb does come as it appears on the pictures.  The "BOMB" is not located directly beneath SUPER CARBIDE.  The iPIX pictures were out before the super carbide bomb evan hit the market.  The picture is just made to look this way so you can see the entire logo.