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Dirty Bomber

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Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« on: January 22, 2015, 05:44:03 PM »
Check out this ball, has the highest MB( int diff) to date at .040. i can't post a pic the file is to big, but you can check it out on this home page.
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2015, 11:53:58 PM »
Quote from: EL3MCNEIL on January 22, 2015, 11:32:08 PM
Quote from: kidlost2000 on January 22, 2015, 11:04:58 PM
Most companies stopped going that high on int diffs a few years ago.

The ball will flare out very rapidly.

Why not? You'd think that there'd be a certain market for balls with "higher" diffs.
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2015, 12:19:58 AM »
This is from a bowling website regarding ID of bowing balls. I believe some of you are confusing what the ID is for.

The higher the measurement of Intermediate Differential, the greater the bowling ball asymmetry and the lower the Intermediate Differential, the lower the asymmetry of a given bowling ball. The greater the asymmetry, the more area is created at the break point and the ball will respond to friction faster than will symmetrical balls.

And there are only 3 layouts for this ball. This should be an extremely interesting topic moving forward.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 12:27:50 AM by tkkshop »
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2015, 07:40:10 AM »
The closer the int diff gets to the primary pin, the more confusion potentially created my the core...layouts become more critical and more times than not, yes over flaring or inversion of the flare wil be created...
More is not always better and this is a perfect example...think of the 'push me, pull you' animal
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2015, 11:45:38 AM »
Somewhere, Mo is shaking his head.
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2015, 12:28:46 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on January 23, 2015, 11:45:38 AM
Somewhere, Mo is shaking his head.

I was thinking of asking him about it on bowlingchat.net forums.  To me this .040 is all marketing fluff.  Some people see "first" in any industry and think it has to be good.  Maybe it's the first because all the others think it won't work.  Being limited to pin under drillings could be problematic for some bowlers...
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2015, 01:01:26 PM »
Quote from: ImBackInTheGame on January 23, 2015, 12:28:46 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on January 23, 2015, 11:45:38 AM
Somewhere, Mo is shaking his head.

Quote from: ImBackInTheGame on January 23, 2015, 12:28:46 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on January 23, 2015, 11:45:38 AM
Somewhere, Mo is shaking his head.

I was thinking of asking him about it on bowlingchat.net forums.  To me this .040 is all marketing fluff.  Some people see "first" in any industry and think it has to be good.  Maybe it's the first because all the others think it won't work.  Being limited to pin under drillings could be problematic for some bowlers...

I was thinking of asking him about it on bowlingchat.net forums.  To me this .040 is all marketing fluff.  Some people see "first" in any industry and think it has to be good.  Maybe it's the first because all the others think it won't work.  Being limited to pin under drillings could be problematic for some bowlers...

Pin under is spot on and my favorite drill. However the .040 intermediate differential would be a total disaster for me as I have had nothing with bad luck with balls that are over .019 -.020 or so.
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2015, 01:19:27 PM »
Mo had cores with .037 int diffs which after drilling in most cases increases. I think many went away from those numbers fot a reason. More isn't always more.
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2015, 04:01:43 PM »
This ball sounds like it might not be for the heavy handed guys, because there's probably not enough oil. But for the medium rev bowlers and/or rev challenged, this sounds like a dream come true..!! Pin under drillings for more midlane, but the backend reaction of a pin up, gives bowlers the best of both worlds. What a concept..!! =:vD
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2015, 05:55:43 PM »
Quote from: T-GOD on January 23, 2015, 04:01:43 PM
This ball sounds like it might not be for the heavy handed guys, because there's probably not enough oil. But for the medium rev bowlers and/or rev challenged, this sounds like a dream come true..!! Pin under drillings for more midlane, but the backend reaction of a pin up, gives bowlers the best of both worlds. What a concept..!! =:vD

Hey T-God ... Where have you been keeping ypurself? I haven't seen you on here for ages and ages. Glad to see you back as I have missed you. You always did have good drilling advice and have helped be a lot in the past.
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2015, 06:05:50 PM »
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Pin under is spot on and my favorite drill. However the .040 intermediate differential would be a total disaster for me as I have had nothing with bad luck with balls that are over .019 -.020 or so.

I posted this ^^^^^^^^^^ same message on BBE as well as above here and Richie responded with the following ... "Brick, this is not a normal high MB ball, it's different (no pun intended). With this ball, you can have the pin down, but the bow tie will be up high, like a pin up/over the fingers drilling. That's the Difference..!! (pun intended) ", so maybe the .040 isn't as bad for people like myself as it sounds?
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2015, 06:12:51 PM »
There will only be three layouts for this ball, so i think this will be a lot better for that guy who cant figure out what layout he wants.
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2015, 10:32:51 PM »
Quote from: kidlost2000 on January 22, 2015, 11:04:58 PM
Most companies stopped going that high on int diffs a few years ago.

Are you confusing RG differential with intermediate differential? I don't think any company had ever made a ball witn that big of an intermediate differential, although Mo Pinel has demonstrated how to get that number that high through drilling.

RG diff controls total flare potential while int diff controls how quickly a ball will respond to friction.

I don't know about the cover stock, but the core numbers indicate this ball will rev up fast, respond quickly to friction, and have a large flare.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/0/0b/The_Truth_about_Drilled_Balls.pdf
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2015, 12:29:13 AM »
Intermediate diff aside, for that price it needs to be able to make me a sandwich
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2015, 09:15:38 AM »
I have no words......
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Re: Lane #1 New ball The Difference
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2015, 09:38:32 AM »
Quote from: dougb on January 23, 2015, 10:32:51 PM
Quote from: kidlost2000 on January 22, 2015, 11:04:58 PM
Most companies stopped going that high on int diffs a few years ago.

Are you confusing RG differential with intermediate differential? I don't think any company had ever made a ball witn that big of an intermediate differential, although Mo Pinel has demonstrated how to get that number that high through drilling.

RG diff controls total flare potential while int diff controls how quickly a ball will respond to friction.

I don't know about the cover stock, but the core numbers indicate this ball will rev up fast, respond quickly to friction, and have a large flare.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/0/0b/The_Truth_about_Drilled_Balls.pdf


No confusion. Google is your friend.  Most companies today have int diff in the ball park of .015-.024 today that I have seen.

Back a few years ago many companies were pushing high int diffs.

Brunswick Siege .030
Track 930 anything  .030

Morich
Awersome rev .029
LevRG   .033
Nsane LevRG .036
Ntense Levrg .036


Pick your favorite brand and go back and see if they also tried similar high int diffs.

 In reference to actual Diff there were a few in the .070 range before the rule change. The Hammer Taboo and a few others still use the higher .060 but most companies shied away from that as well.
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