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Title: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 07, 2014, 12:09:10 AM
The new lane 1'Pro V' ball retails for $185...it must be the best!
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on September 07, 2014, 04:53:21 AM
Where have you seen this mystical ball at?
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: charlest on September 07, 2014, 06:02:00 AM
Where have you seen this mystical ball at?

http://bowlingballexchange.com/showthread.php?t=60731 (http://bowlingballexchange.com/showthread.php?t=60731)
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: kidlost2000 on September 07, 2014, 11:15:00 AM
I thought it was a new Revolution/Brunswick release at first view lol.

Diamond core technology isn't cheap. Neither is having to pay another company to produce your stuff. That cost gets passed on to the customers.
 
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on September 07, 2014, 02:31:12 PM
The new lane 1'Pro V' ball retails for $185...it must be the best!

So I guess the Pro V "X" is next.  LOL!!
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: charlest on September 07, 2014, 02:45:06 PM
I thought it was a new Revolution/Brunswick release at first view lol.

Diamond core technology isn't cheap. Neither is having to pay another company to produce your stuff. That cost gets passed on to the customers.
 

The asking price for an undrilled ball is ... unconscionably high.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: charlest on September 07, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
The new lane 1'Pro V' ball retails for $185...it must be the best!

So I guess the Pro V "X" is next.  LOL!!

No! The Pro-V/R is next. :o
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: kidlost2000 on September 07, 2014, 04:06:51 PM
PRO-V1's aren't cheap either. Maybe it has to do with the name.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Steven on September 07, 2014, 05:07:07 PM
It's not cheap, but between 2 leagues I'm dumping $30-$40 per week in side action. In the overall scheme of things, if I really wanted a ball, I'm not going to lose sleep over paying that much extra.
 
10 years ago, high end Lane#1 equipment was going for $180-$190. It shouldn't be a shock to see it now.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 07, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
Its on bowlerx.com
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 07, 2014, 06:01:18 PM
It's not cheap, but between 2 leagues I'm dumping $30-$40 per week in side action. In the overall scheme of things, if I really wanted a ball, I'm not going to lose sleep over paying that much extra.
 
10 years ago, high end Lane#1 equipment was going for $180-$190. It shouldn't be a shock to see it now.


I do 40 a night minimum.  I was just saying dang, lane 1 is supposed to be good now huh?
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Steven on September 07, 2014, 06:45:18 PM

I do 40 a night minimum.  I was just saying dang, lane 1 is supposed to be good now huh?
 
They were always good if they work for you. The same as with any company.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 07, 2014, 11:32:10 PM
I understand that...but what new innovative newness are they bringing to the table besides a chunk taken out of the core? 

Instead of creating a bunch of buzz about this great new product they just put it out there with an elevated price point.  If they don't watch it they will be on elites turf in terms of pricing!
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: suhoney24 on September 08, 2014, 01:22:12 AM
all lane 1 stuff seems a tad steep, i really wanted the new typhoon pearl but then i saw the price tag...$185.00
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Snakster on September 08, 2014, 09:32:51 AM
And yet there is an amazingly large group of people who pay 250-300 for 6 year old "rare" balls.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Gizmo823 on September 08, 2014, 09:40:18 AM
Lane 1 has pigeonholed themselves with the diamond core thing.  The core has to be a straight up diamond or some derivative of a diamond. 

I understand that...but what new innovative newness are they bringing to the table besides a chunk taken out of the core? 

Instead of creating a bunch of buzz about this great new product they just put it out there with an elevated price point.  If they don't watch it they will be on elites turf in terms of pricing!
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on September 08, 2014, 09:48:17 AM
It has to be difficult for Lane #1 to move product when the big brands are 12-15% cheaper.  Consumers are very price savvy and will not shell out more money for what many believe to be an inferior product.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Steven on September 08, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
It has to be difficult for Lane #1 to move product when the big brands are 12-15% cheaper.  Consumers are very price savvy and will not shell out more money for what many believe to be an inferior product.

Actually, in the case of many bowlers, it's more about being "cheap" than "price savvy"…..
 
As far as Lane#1 being perceived as an inferior product, history on this board has shown that many who cling to this perception have never thrown (or much less even have seen) a Lane#1 ball on the lanes.
 
I used to throw mostly Lane#1, but had to branch out (due to product registration) when I started bowling occasional PBA events. I now throw a large number of Storm and Columbia balls, with a sprinkling of Ebonite and Hammer in the mix. All companies produce good balls, but I will say I've never owned a Lane#1 I wouldn't have purchased again. I can't say that regarding the other companies I've been throwing.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on September 08, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
At one point I had only Lane 1 in my bag.  Chainsaw, Blue Death, Supernova XP, and XXXL.  I've also owned a few others.  I agree that the product is on par with the big companies, but on par shouldn't come with 15% premium.  Seismic comes out of the same plant and doesn't cost any more than Storm, Brunswick, or Ebi.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: RadioActive on September 08, 2014, 01:21:53 PM
Here is the data sheet:
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on September 08, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
Here is the data sheet:

Way to go Lane 1 on the Core name typo.  They must have edited the text from the Typhoon because it's the "V" Cut Patented Diamond not the Hurricane core.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Gizmo823 on September 08, 2014, 02:49:13 PM
I'd have to agree here.  I haven't had a Lane 1 ball for a while, but an old favorite of mine, the Carbide LRG was THE ball at sport tournaments when I was a youth.  I had 2 to 3 boards further right than anybody else had.  I also had the Tsunami, Cherry Bomb, Pearl Viper, a Blueberry, an Emerald, a Cranberry, a Uranium, and a Gold Nugget, but I stopped throwing them after Brunswick moved to Mexico.  I really wish I still had every single one of those balls perhaps aside from the Pearl Viper, excellent equipment.  If anybody would resurrect those type of reactions, they'd have the corner on the market.  You remake the Blueberry and the Cranberry and they would sell like all these new "limited" balls are selling.  You find me somebody on this site that wouldn't want a Blueberry and I'll show you somebody who isn't a real bowler.  It was the Hyroad of its generation. 

It has to be difficult for Lane #1 to move product when the big brands are 12-15% cheaper.  Consumers are very price savvy and will not shell out more money for what many believe to be an inferior product.

Actually, in the case of many bowlers, it's more about being "cheap" than "price savvy"…..
 
As far as Lane#1 being perceived as an inferior product, history on this board has shown that many who cling to this perception have never thrown (or much less even have seen) a Lane#1 ball on the lanes.
 
I used to throw mostly Lane#1, but had to branch out (due to product registration) when I started bowling occasional PBA events. I now throw a large number of Storm and Columbia balls, with a sprinkling of Ebonite and Hammer in the mix. All companies produce good balls, but I will say I've never owned a Lane#1 I wouldn't have purchased again. I can't say that regarding the other companies I've been throwing.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on September 08, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
My "inferior" comment was in regards to perception of the general bowling community.  The blueberry C2 is a legendary ball.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 08, 2014, 10:59:55 PM
300 for good stuff maybe! 

Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: dougb on September 09, 2014, 12:29:43 AM
Gotta back up what everybody said about the Blueberry/C2.  PK18 wrapped around that core = winner.

I still have a Retro Buzzsaw THS.  I had a Hyroad with the same layout on it and at the same surface -- heck even with surface changes -- the THS proved to be more versatile and carried better.  I put that ball up against benchmark balls from C300, Hammer, and Roto Grip and never found an equal until I got to the Brunswick Versa Max.  Very special ball.

I was almost 100% Lane #1 for awhile there and a few of their balls that didn't work for me -- the Chainsaw in particular -- but I was always happy with their stuff.  In the end, I found that Brunswick stuff new and old were a better match for me, but I'd pay premium again for the right ball.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 09, 2014, 01:56:07 AM
I always wanted the uranium hrg.  Anyone throw it? Was it good...drool...
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: dougb on September 09, 2014, 06:49:24 PM
I always wanted the uranium hrg.  Anyone throw it? Was it good...drool...

The HRG was the only Uranium without the dense inner diamond core.  They took it out and replaced it with filler. My friend had one and it was a dud for him.  That and the Chainsaw were the only L1 balls he couldn't get sick carry with.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: charlest on September 09, 2014, 11:37:33 PM
I always wanted the uranium hrg.  Anyone throw it? Was it good...drool...
Hated it and I love/need higher RG balls. Can't imagine your ever using it anywhere except on truly fried or burnt lanes.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Gene J Kanak on September 10, 2014, 11:27:31 AM
I threw a lot of Lane 1 gear back in the Big B days. At that time, I could pretty much count on my Lane 1 stuff to be just slightly smoother than their Big B cousins. My Cherry Bomb Pearl was pretty much an Inferno. My Uranium Solid was pretty much an Ultimate Inferno, and so on and so forth; however, there were a few balls Lane 1 came out with that just worked better than anything else I had seen. To this day, the Lane 1 Bullet was the resin ball I've ever used on dry lanes. Likewise, the original XL gave me a look I've never quite found in another ball.

Still, in the end, all companies make good stuff. If you think that a particular company's gear gives you an edge, buy it even if the price is a bit higher than the competition. If you don't think the product is worth the extra cost, go with the cheaper option. We are all big boys and big girls; I've never understood why so many people worry about what other people spend on equipment. Unless the person buying the expensive ball owes you money, why do you care?
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Impending Doom on September 10, 2014, 11:35:37 AM
+1 with Gene. Only Lane 1 I ever had was a Silver Diamond (Which was the NUT), but all of the Big B covers seemed to work REALLY well with the diamond.

That being said, I liked the look of the Panther series, and some of them now look OK, but no where near the look with Powerkoil on them.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: dougb on September 10, 2014, 12:25:35 PM
I threw a lot of Lane 1 gear back in the Big B days. At that time, I could pretty much count on my Lane 1 stuff to be just slightly smoother than their Big B cousins. My Cherry Bomb Pearl was pretty much an Inferno. My Uranium Solid was pretty much an Ultimate Inferno, and so on and so forth; however, there were a few balls Lane 1 came out with that just worked better than anything else I had seen. To this day, the Lane 1 Bullet was the resin ball I've ever used on dry lanes. Likewise, the original XL gave me a look I've never quite found in another ball.

Still, in the end, all companies make good stuff. If you think that a particular company's gear gives you an edge, buy it even if the price is a bit higher than the competition. If you don't think the product is worth the extra cost, go with the cheaper option. We are all big boys and big girls; I've never understood why so many people worry about what other people spend on equipment. Unless the person buying the expensive ball owes you money, why do you care?

Forgot about the Bullet.  Wish I kept mine.  Fantastic dry lane piece. 
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: slowmofo908 on September 10, 2014, 12:52:15 PM
It's so weird how region affects perception as well.  Growing up in the northeast I threw a couple Lane 1 pieces and always thought they made a great ball.  ( still have my cherry bomb sitting in a basement)  Though when I moved to the south and I mention Lane 1 people look at me like and start laughing.  I guarantee these people never have thrown one as well, but it's hard to compete when you don't pay the PBA $ to be able to use them in tournaments. Let's face it bowling is on the decline and the people still serious about it who bowl in the occasional tourny don't want to spend $ on a ball they cannot use
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 10, 2014, 12:56:56 PM
You're talking about lane 1 a long time ago.  There was a point in time where there was hype about their releases....was.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Gene J Kanak on September 10, 2014, 03:40:32 PM
Oh, Lane 1 had a cult-like following for a long time. Back then the boards were full of back-and-forth beefs between the Lane 1 fan boys and the haters. I always found it stupid. Again, use what works for you. It's the same with golf balls. Some guys spend $40-50 a dozen, and some guys buy the 18-pack for $11.99. Is one guy right and the other guy wrong? No. It's just about your own cost-value analysis. I liked Lane 1 stuff back in the day, but now I tend to throw 99% Storm. Do what works for you.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: milorafferty on September 10, 2014, 03:49:52 PM
Oh, Lane 1 had a cult-like following for a long time. Back then the boards were full of back-and-forth beefs between the Lane 1 fan boys and the haters. I always found it stupid. Again, use what works for you. It's the same with golf balls. Some guys spend $40-50 a dozen, and some guys buy the 18-pack for $11.99. Is one guy right and the other guy wrong? No. It's just about your own cost-value analysis. I liked Lane 1 stuff back in the day, but now I tend to throw 99% Storm. Do what works for you.

18 for $11.99?? Man that ain't cheap, I get mine 100 for $16.00. And they come with a handy basket to carry them in.   ;D


As to the OP, I loved some Lane #1 stuff. Golden Nugget, Emerald C2 and the Pink Panther were all great balls for me. But to pay a premium for the current stuff? Nope, too many better options.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on September 10, 2014, 09:20:50 PM
Oh, Lane 1 had a cult-like following for a long time. Back then the boards were full of back-and-forth beefs between the Lane 1 fan boys and the haters. I always found it stupid. Again, use what works for you. It's the same with golf balls. Some guys spend $40-50 a dozen, and some guys buy the 18-pack for $11.99. Is one guy right and the other guy wrong? No. It's just about your own cost-value analysis. I liked Lane 1 stuff back in the day, but now I tend to throw 99% Storm. Do what works for you.

I recall the days of the "haters". I was a Lane 1 fan at that time because their balls made by Brunswick seemed to perform best for me. Then when Lane 1 dumped Brunswick as the maker of their balls, that is when the haters really came alive with most of the haters being Brunswick fans.

For what ever reason, when Global started making Lane 1 balls, they seemed to not perform for me as well as they did prior to that time, so I was forced to look at other brands of which all seemed to do well for me, so it was probably a case of match-up to my style and not bad balls made by Global although it appears that Lane 1 lost a lot of their charm and bowlers when Global began making their balls and that charm seems to have never returned.
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Post by: Impending Doom on September 10, 2014, 09:49:43 PM
Being a Global loyalist and love their covers, they don't match up as well as the powrkoil covers did on the older ones. They could have kept it simple and sold a ton of balls.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 11, 2014, 12:33:57 AM
OK...this was not supposed to be a "Let's hate on Lane 1" post.  The point I was trying to make is that I hope that prices on all equipment do not creep up because of the new pricing structure.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: dougb on September 11, 2014, 01:06:35 AM
Let's  not forget that Columbia 300 poured their stuff in between Brunswick and 900 G.  Of course, 900 G bought out C300's San Antonio plant.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: Brickguy221 on September 11, 2014, 12:51:04 PM
Let's  not forget that Columbia 300 poured their stuff in between Brunswick and 900 G.  Of course, 900 G bought out C300's San Antonio plant.

The only Lane 1 Columbia poured ball I had was the Red XXXL and I liked that ball very much and kept it from day 1 until the end of last year when I was forced to drop to 12# balls because of back surgery.
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: billdozer on September 11, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
Achem, I direct to you to my last post lol
Title: Re: So.... Did anyone get the memo?
Post by: ericfox4 on November 26, 2014, 06:37:22 AM
older lane 1 balls were very good balls the newer ones seem to be hit or miss,so do your homework before you buy check out reviews on bowling ball exchange