Author Topic: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment (Read 18401 times)

htotheizzo3561 · « **on:** August 22, 2005, 02:32:15 PM »

ON bowl.com

http://www.bowl.com/specs/ballNonconforming.aspx http://
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Saw Mill · « **Reply #31 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:04:45 AM »

Here is a list of numbers and e-mail addresses. Let's get on them. I called the number and left a pretty toned message.

Dave

http://www.bowl.com/contact/main.aspx
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Saw Mill · « **Reply #32 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:12:51 AM »

I for one will stand by my company regardless of the outcome. I am sure there is an explanation for this, if it is true. As awesome a company as Lane 1 is, they will get this taken care of quickly.

Dave
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MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #33 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:06:12 AM »

You would think that the USBC would at least post the reason for this.

I feel sorry for the bowler who bought my SCB last season.
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agroves · « **Reply #34 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:17:44 AM »

Can somebody cut and paste the link? I can't view it at work b/c of the filter. I have a SCB which I've thrown less than one game with. But before I get worked up I want to know what it says and what is going on.

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agroves · « **Reply #35 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:27:21 AM »

quote:
wich link? this one?

http://www.bowl.com/specs/ballNonconforming.aspx
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shut the F*** up and bowl damn it...

Cut and paste the CONTENTS of the link...I guess I wasn't clear.

Andrew
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BrunsNick · « **Reply #36 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:27:32 AM »

Moh's hardness in effect?

I dunno... Silly Sawboys.
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agroves · « **Reply #37 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:35:33 AM »

Thank you, hopefully I we hearing something back about this soon.

Andrew
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burly · « **Reply #38 on:** August 23, 2005, 03:13:01 AM »

i see the bowl.com site
but do they explain why they ban these balls on the website.

Wizard3927 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 23, 2005, 05:48:37 AM »

Here is the rule from the USBC site.

Mohs' hardness specification - USBC has created a new Mohs' hardness specification of 6.0 for particles in the cover stock of a bowling ball. Bowling ball manufacturers will have 90 days to review and comment on a USBC test procedure. Assuming there are no specific issues with the test procedure, implementation will begin no earlier than Jan. 1, 2006. The intent of this specification is to limit the amount of traction a bowling ball is capable of achieving and to protect the lane surface.

My guess is the Super Carbide Bomb doesn't meet this rule. It has nothing to do with the core.

Wizard

JPRLane1 · « **Reply #40 on:** August 23, 2005, 07:31:34 AM »

Pissed doesn't begin to describe I have one currently drilled and in use I have another NIB rgular super carbide bomb an I have another NIB polished super carbide bomb. To that I say what the F**k USBC! Granted I have 5 games total on my current drilled one and would have probably sold at least it or my other NIB regular one. Who the hell is going to buy them now I am screwed out of $500+ dollars of bowling balls just like that.
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pgpelton · « **Reply #41 on:** August 23, 2005, 07:36:26 AM »

Has anyone bothered to call Lane 1 and find out what they have to say about it?
Just a thought.....

Chazman819 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 23, 2005, 08:17:30 AM »

this will put a kink in a lot of plans. A buddy of mine just bought one, and another is getting one from a league.

As stated before, common logic says it's an issue with the cover causing this, and unfortunately, looks like it will stand for the polished as well. Core was grandfathered in, so no issues there(at least until 2008 or whatever that silly rule was).

It will be interesting to see what merit this has, and what Richie and the boys do now, because I have always felt the Polished SCB was a way to stick it to the USBC since they couldn't make a "new" ball with the SCB core. But that's just my thoughts.
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Chazman819 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 23, 2005, 08:40:08 AM »

could be as simple as someone getting a itchy finger. It does seem funny that ball was not there a few days ago. I agree something is a little fishy here, but that does not stop the fact that this could be a bad situation. Taking away the best heavy oil ball on the market in MID year mind you, as well as a brand new ball is downright wrong.

I don't remember seeing any reference to balls being grandfathered in regarding the hardness test
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Bjaardker · « **Reply #44 on:** August 23, 2005, 08:41:08 AM »

There are 2 possibilities:

1) Mr. Buzzsaw was trying to "stick it to" the USBC with using that core again, so they decided to say "we can play hardball" & they put the SCB on the non-approved list.

2) *more likely* Either due to Moh's Hardness scale issues or other surface issues the USBC was going to put the SCB on the banned list. The USBC went to Ritchie & told him this was going to be happening, so he revised the ball enough to fit into the standards the USBC was handing him. This "legalized" version is the Polished SCB. Thus the odd re-release of this relatively old ball. Ritchie made up a story that he was "sticking it to the man" by re-releasing the SCB to save face for the fact they had him over their knee.

Chazman819 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 23, 2005, 08:43:38 AM »

quote:
There are 2 possibilities:

1) Mr. Buzzsaw was trying to "stick it to" the USBC with using that core again, so they decided to say "we can play hardball" & they put the SCB on the non-approved list.

2) *more likely* Either due to Moh's Hardness scale issues or other surface issues the USBC was going to put the SCB on the banned list. The USBC went to Ritchie & told him this was going to be happening, so he revised the ball enough to fit into the standards the USBC was handing him. This "legalized" version is the Polished SCB. Thus the odd re-release of this relatively old ball. Ritchie made up a story that he was "sticking it to the man" by re-releasing the SCB to save face for the fact they had him over their knee.

#2 kinda makes sense..But if you know the SCB is going to be put on the banned list, why keep selling it. At the same time, unless he changed the cover istelf, I don't see how polishing the ball will make it legal. If he were to change the cover, then it's a different ball, and the core would not be allowed in.
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Edited on 8/23/2005 8:36 AM

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