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drillwizard

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Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« on: December 16, 2008, 01:48:55 PM »
My boys took care of me again and sent me the super rare Dynamo test ball with no logos just plain black on black Johhny Cash style, with a silver pin.

This is the new Lane 1 ball coming out soon, its the Dynamo. My test ball is blank black with no logos at all. I only got to throw the ball about 1 game tonight cause the condition laid out in this league is way dry, I usually have to use my Chainsaw. But I wanted to play with the new toy. Anyways I punched it up 4 3/4 x 4 no weight hole. This tester has roughly a matte finish to it. I cant wait to throw this on some oil in this out of box state.

I could swing this ball and hook it a ton and still carry or take all the hand out if it and play it somewhat in the track area, and it still carried exceptional. I am going to put a high polish on it tomorrow and try it out again and will post back with the results. If I can get this thing to get like glass I think I can put some huge numbers up with it.

I have a feeling this will have a real good chance to take ball of the year honors, with this cover and core combo.

Cant wait to see the final logos and product, in a month or so.

Edited on 12/16/2008 10:49 PM
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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2008, 01:34:38 PM »
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Double the hook, double the score..blah..blah..blah..

Improve your scores by 10 pins or more..yada..yada..yada..

More 300 games than any other company..bs..bs...bs...

Diamond core is the best....hype..hype..hype..

1. Diamond core is the best..? They have a physic study on their website done by an independent research that clearly demonstrates that the diamond core generates at least 20% more energy than any other shape, everything else being equal. That's physics facts proven.

2. More 300 games than any other company..? They say that you get more 300's and 800's PER BALL than any other company. That's not highest toal award scores, but the average per ball is more. More power + more control = more 300's & 800's. Clearly the laws of physics are working here.

3. Improve your scores by 10 pins or more..? If you use the product correctly, and get used to the differences in reaction, as compared to your other equipment, most everyone will increase their average. The more room for improvement, the higher your average will be raised. If you're averaging 230, you probably won't go to 240, maybe 235 though. More power + more control = more strikes = higher scores. Again, that's the laws of physics working.

4. Double your hook, double your score..? They said double your high scores, not double your score. Double your hook, that's debatable and probably a stretch, so we'll give you that one.

These balls ARE really really good. I wouldn't be so negative, especially if you're looking to bowl higher scores more consistently. =:^D

Edited on 12/19/2008 2:35 PM
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2008, 02:01:09 PM »
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1. Diamond core is the best..? They have a physic study on their website done by an independent research that clearly demonstrates that the diamond core generates at least 20% more energy than any other shape, everything else being equal. That's physics facts proven.
Comparing the energy "generated" (can you actually generate energy?  My college physics is rusty, but I'm pretty sure you can't generate energy) in and of itself between the diamond and other simple geometric shapes (ignoring any other kind of complex core shape) is some pretty crappy science.  It doesn't mean anything in regards to predictable, tunable ball motion to get the ball to the pins, it doesn't mean anything to actual pin carry itself (which is reliant on more than just purely energy), etc.  You can make statistics say whatever you want, and this is a very blatant case of just that.

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2. More 300 games than any other company..? They say that you get more 300's and 800's PER BALL than any other company. That's not highest toal award scores, but the average per ball is more. More power + more control = more 300's & 800's. Clearly the laws of physics are working here.
Or, smaller sample size results in skewed statistics.  I know of only a dozen or so people in my city who regularly use Lane #1 gear and most of them are decently talented bowlers, you will get much different results on a honor-scores-per-ball analysis of these guys compared to the masses throwing Brunswick, Hammer, or Storm gear where you have a boatload of untalented once-a-week bowlers to balance out the legitimately talented tournament bowlers.

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3. Improve your scores by 10 pins or more..? If you use the product correctly, and get used to the differences in reaction, as compared to your other equipment, most everyone will increase their average. The more room for improvement, the higher your average will be raised. If you're averaging 230, you probably won't go to 240, maybe 235 though. More power + more control = more strikes = higher scores. Again, that's the laws of physics working.
If you use any product correctly and get used to the difference in reaction from before you're drilling it/throwing it/whatever imporperly, you're going to see an increase in average.  That's the law of common freaking sense working.

I get the concept of marketing a product to sound better than the competition.  However, seeing completely unrealistic applications of "physics," "statistics," and whatnot thrown everywhere is just frustrating, and even more so when it's preached as gospel instead of just marketing jargon.
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JessN16

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2008, 04:04:22 PM »
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Ball companys will always hype their stuff. But none of them go waaay over the top like lane 1 does..

Double the hook, double the score..blah..blah..blah..

Improve your scores by 10 pins or more..yada..yada..yada..

More 300 games than any other company..bs..bs...bs...

Diamond core is the best....hype..hype..hype..

Granted, being a niche company that produces bowling balls you need to try and grab an edge somewhere. IMHO, the sub-200 average bowler is the target market for their products with the claims that they make. It's pretty much the same disdain that I have for Elite bowling as well. But at least Elite has two PBA titles under its belt despite the phony claims.


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Lane #1 isn't even remotely close to being the only one that does it. Ever seen one of those Brunswick "reaction charts" from about five years ago? They had a ball path traced as being put down on the 35th board, out to the 1 board at roughly 57 feet, then making almost a 90-degree turn and hitting the pocket. If it was physically possible for a ball to hit at the angle they showed, it would have at least taken the 1-2-4-7 off the other six pins and maybe even taken the head pin off the full rack.

Every single forum on this site talks about Ball B being "5 boards stronger" than Ball A. Ball C is "5 boards stronger" than Ball B the next year. We're up to Ball Y on a lot of forums and, yep, it's "5 boards stronger" than Ball X was. So if you line Ball A up to Ball Y, I guess Ball Y is doing a 180 at the 35-foot mark now and coming back into the pit.

I personally don't care how Lane #1 markets. I don't believe anyone's marketing. Marketing is the science of using fresh BS to sell your product, and making people believe it smells like a rose.

What I care about is if it works for my game. It can come from AMF, Storm or Lane #1, I do not care. Right now, I'm having the most consistent success with Lane #1, so that's what I'm buying most of. It would be stupid not to.

And one last thing: The principal difference between Lane #1 and Elite, up to this point, has been that Elite recycled cores and covers and then charged more for the privilege. At least Lane #1 has its own core designs. Sure, they share covers with AMF/900Global, but Ebonite and Columbia share covers, too, as does Brunswick and MoRich. As far as Elite's Black Label or newer equipment, I don't know if the recycling is still going on -- and that's what makes their pricing so offensive. I can at least understand more expensive pricing from Lane #1 because (a) it is a niche company and (b) they are doing some engineering on cores. But I drill my own stuff and buy balls from wholesalers/alternative sources, so I don't get exposed to the premium price for Lane #1.

Jess
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drillwizard

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2008, 08:31:08 AM »
299 already last night with the new ball

195-299-195  model of consistency

in league sanctioned by the way

Edited on 12/22/2008 8:53 AM
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BeansProShop

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2008, 08:52:30 AM »
Think of a twisted doomsday core.....

Best way to describe the core

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2008, 08:58:22 AM »
describe it in numbers plz
what are the stats ><
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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2008, 11:46:54 AM »
break my freaken heart
im totaly gona steal mikes phone and text richie to find out
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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2008, 09:14:55 AM »
teammate on a 40 flood city tourney shot goes 268-279-289 836 last night, granted he was not bowling the tourney, his daughter was and he was on a pair by himself but those are some great numbers  all with the dynamo
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drillwizard

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2008, 08:12:12 AM »
Here you go HATER just for you

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AMF wood THS 42 ft. Unfortunately the area in which I bowl in has no oil. I would have to drive at least 30 minutes to try this ball on real oil. So THS will have to do.


The "super rare" LOL, test ball came with a dull surface, and I took the Sauce and glassed it up didnt change the cover at all.

For me I need polish and alot. I shined it to glass. The ball was awesome now for the shot I was bowling on. Had some good push, still revved up hard, and the backend was extremely strong. This will be a great ball for the weak handed, out of the box. The drilling was pin under bridge and cg kicked out just a bit. You want the magic ball this is it. This new core moves the pins around very well. It has midlane read, revs easy off the hand, but still has great length and backend(when mirrored out to look like glass).

Cant wait to throw the one with actual logos on it.

There will be some huge scores with this ball in no time now that they are released to the public.

Why do they send me test balls for over 10 years now? Why dont you call 1 800 526 3661 ask for Chuck, and maybe if Rich is there go ahead and ask him. They will tell you. Maybe becuase of the way I single handedly got their stuff to sell locally 10 years ago when no one had ever heard of Lane 1, or maybe because my sales that total over 1 million from my pro shop. Maybe Because I steer customers into their stuff when I could do that with any other brand, but I choose them. Maybe its becuase of all the good times we have had together as friends. Thanks again for the extravagant gift this year once again Rich/Chuck you guys are the best. There are probably hundreds more reasons why they send me test balls, but thats all that came to mind right now. But since you were so interested go ahead and give them a call.

Thought of another one-

The MAP pricing- maybe its because Im one of the only ones left abiding by their pricing agreement, and not advertising for you guys to send me offers or send me trade offers, which all violate Richies MAP agrement.

Edited on 12/22/2008 9:15 AM
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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2008, 08:55:45 AM »
Guys, its not that serious lets all be friendly here. When does this ball come out to us normal folks, and are there any pictures of the ball with logos yet? Thank you in advance!
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triggerman

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2008, 09:04:36 AM »
ball is due mid january and no there are no pictures of the actual logo yet that I am aware of
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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2008, 10:32:13 AM »
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Why can't we be friends.. why can't we be friends..?


I guess it's just the way I am, but holy moses batman you guys pick each other apart piece by piece for NO REASON! Do you really, really, honestly care that much about how we here at Lane #1 market our balls, or is it just because we CHOOSE to make some great ads some being conversial, but hey, we got you to look didn't we? I mean I just can't understand it.. I guess I just look at it as a bowling ball ad, not as a way to attack the company for making something that made me look twice.


I guess I Just sometimes wish a little bit that people could find better things to do with their lives than sit here ripping us apart for coming out with fun and interesting ways of marketing.


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When you say "interesting", do you mean flat out lying or just exagerating claims of a miracle core and ball?

No doubt, Lane#1 makes a quality product. However, it marketing (IMHO) is meant to deceive your customers into believing it's something that it's not or will preform in a manner and it won't.

Yes, all ball companies will tout their latest releases, but none will market them to the point of ridiculous claims being made such as lane one chooses to do.

JMHO..

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2008, 10:44:56 AM »
Yes, all ball companies will tout their latest releases, but none will market them to the point of ridiculous claims being made such as lane one chooses to do.

Here is marketing from Hammer. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. This took all of 1 minute to find. I am sure there is plenty more out there.

When you play with fire, you’re bound to be burned and there’s nothing safe about Hammer’s new Raw Hammer Acid. Designed to be dangerous from the inside out, Raw Hammer Acid will scar you for life.
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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2008, 10:51:56 AM »
How is this and who proved it?

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After testing a wide range of cores (both new and old designs) with the new XLerator coverstock, the core that gave the absolute best reaction was the Torsion Asymmetric Core. This core/coverstock combo make the Twisted Fury Destruction rev up hard and hug the lane without hooking early. The medium RG asymmetric design of the core then turns loose the power of the coverstock on the back-end, unleashing destructive force on the pins.

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Re: Tested the new Dynamo tonight
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2008, 10:54:23 AM »
Here is another. I know of 5 balls that will out hook and perform this ball.

And I still do not find a problem with anyones marketing...

 Description: New in Ebonite''''s High Performance category will be the NVD. The NVD will be the strongest ball in overall ball motion to date. In order to accomplish this strong ball performance, Ebonite modified the cover slightly by adding more friction enhancing capabilities and changed the core design to offer a lower RG with a higher mass bias rating.

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