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Title: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: TexasBuzzSaw on October 24, 2015, 07:45:17 PM
Check this out Buzzsaw fans. Lane#1 is opening the vault this week on ebay and will be auctioning off all the old releases. That's right  we have just about 1 of every released Lane#1 and Buzzsaw every released and some text balls. all NIB. here is the link to the Lane#1 facebook page. so stay updated and spread the word.

bring some money $$$$ and its yours!

https://www.facebook.com/Lane1Bowling
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: SVstar34 on October 24, 2015, 08:39:52 PM
DAMN
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: billdozer on October 24, 2015, 10:36:29 PM
Soo sorry if I have been uninformed what happened at lane 1?

I went from not hearing anything about em...to BOOM!
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: drew999 on October 25, 2015, 04:06:07 PM
I may need to take out a loan... :o
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: luv2C10falll on October 25, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
They won't be worth, what lane 1 thinks they are worth
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Strapper_Squared on October 25, 2015, 04:24:17 PM
It will be interesting to see the going market rate for some of the classic pieces.  I would be interested in a few of my favorites...assuming the prices are reasonable.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: charlest on October 25, 2015, 04:34:00 PM
It will be interesting to see the going market rate for some of the classic pieces.  I would be interested in a few of my favorites...assuming the prices are reasonable.

I sincerely doubt you'll see the "market rate". I think you'll see more of the Lane#1 fanatics desperate to get their fantasy "toy". I'd expect prices to be 3xto  4x the going TRUE market rate.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Track_Fanatic on October 25, 2015, 04:38:27 PM
No reserve with a starting price of $1 or will there be a reserve and a high minimum Starting bid??
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: milorafferty on October 26, 2015, 03:27:39 PM
So where are these fabled "vault" balls? I've heard this a few times before, but they never show up on ebay.

Is there a point to making the announcement from time to time and not following through with it?

Or more likely, there is no vault, just trying to get attention to the company.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: luv2C10falll on October 26, 2015, 03:35:27 PM
That company needs it too.Never see any of their balls in the 3 alleys I bowl in
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: raidernation34 on October 26, 2015, 06:40:37 PM
My favorite, the Droid Pearl, no one else seemed to like so maybe I can swoop in and pick it up. I've kicked myself ever since I traded that thing.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Brickguy221 on October 26, 2015, 07:18:26 PM
I would take a Solid Cobalt Bomb in 12# at a reasonable price.

Black Cherry Bomb also.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: TexasBuzzSaw on October 26, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
HI guys,

This is for real this time. There will be some huge news coming soon and these auctions are the beginning. No hints but I tell you this, you will want to be a part of what is about to happen.

Until then.

Bowl Great and Shred the rack with a BuzzSaw
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Track_Fanatic on October 28, 2015, 11:26:58 PM
HI guys,

This is for real this time. There will be some huge news coming soon and these auctions are the beginning. No hints but I tell you this, you will want to be a part of what is about to happen.

Until then.

Bowl Great and Shred the rack with a BuzzSaw


I know it's only mid week but I'll start this now..... Buehler, Buehler, Buehler
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: milorafferty on October 28, 2015, 11:35:18 PM
It's a small vault. More like a large ice chest actually...
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: DP3 on October 28, 2015, 11:46:12 PM
I shot my 2nd 300 with a Golden Nugget and never threw a 4 bagger with it again. I did like that ball though.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: sawsemdown on October 29, 2015, 04:10:44 AM
Are test balls legal to throw in competition?
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: itsallaboutme on October 29, 2015, 05:48:10 AM
If they are true test balls they likely won't have a serial number or usbc engraved on them, so no they are not. 

If they have a serial number and logos on them you could probably get away with using them.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: charlest on October 29, 2015, 07:22:27 PM
My favorite, the Droid Pearl, no one else seemed to like so maybe I can swoop in and pick it up. I've kicked myself ever since I traded that thing.

There is a color test Droid Pearl 15 lb ball now (8 PM Eastern time, Thursday).
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: TexasBuzzSaw on October 31, 2015, 09:23:33 AM
We are slowly getting balls up on eBay. Thanks for being patient.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

if anyone has any questions about equipment you can email me at

kevin@lane1bowling.com
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: billdozer on October 31, 2015, 10:02:01 AM
$600 for a difference lol. 
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Strapper_Squared on November 01, 2015, 08:16:21 AM
So when they don't sell at the "asking prices," are they going back into the vault?
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: MI 2 AZ on November 03, 2015, 03:07:31 PM
I saw one (no pun intended) that I was interested in, but almost $50 shipping turned me away.

Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Good Times Good Times on November 03, 2015, 03:52:28 PM
Is it me, or does it seem more logical (from a marketing perspective), for Lane #1 to sell equipment at a (MUCH) more competitive price.........and have more product out there selling itself?

Is your reduction in price NOT going to offset by moving more product (which will lead to the equipment selling itself, assuming it is good) overall?
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Steven on November 03, 2015, 04:05:21 PM
Is it me, or does it seem more logical (from a marketing perspective), for Lane #1 to sell equipment at a (MUCH) more competitive price.........and have more product out there selling itself?


 
It's you.  :)
 
Richie has survived while several other companies have disappeared, or raised the white flag and suffered the indignity of being absorbed by others. Say what you want about the man's views on CG and static weights, but he understands business.
 
His pricing strategy actually makes sense. Maintain the product as a premium offering for bowlers loyal to the brand, and he has a chance of staying in business. He's guaranteed to lose if he tries to get into the volume pricing model we see from the big boys. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: TexasBuzzSaw on November 05, 2015, 03:24:33 PM
Good times, each company does have their only little take on how things are done etc. Steven is right. No one can sell anything until value exceeds price and even then you will still have folks who cant afford every product at every price. That's why there is different products and prices. Some companies produce 1 new ball every 45 days or so. really? if you end up buying so many balls you are lost in what you need to throw when you are bowling. Consistently changing balls. when you are bowling good,, chances are its the same 2-4 balls you mostly use because you have built the confidence in those and learned the adjustments.

So with Lane#1 what we bring to the table is Technology and a simple way to strike!
not every ball is suitable for every bowler no matter the layout. That's we do have several balls in our current line up but we only produce a few a year. When we help a bowler we get their info like PAP, speed, rev rate and consider what conditions he/she may be bowling on or most of the time. What they think they need may or may not be that ball. We use the GBS theory and static weights along with matching the ending CG weight to the Core angle of the ball. This produces the best BLEND of MOTION for you when you bowl. so it blends the 3 phases of ball motion. Skid, Roll, Hook. with this theory and use of knowledge we are able to maintain the most amount of possible energy and consistent roll from release point till it hits the pocket. Any sudden change in direction and you are losing accuracy and power.

Some folks don't take advantage of drilling their ball to the maximum potential of performance. If a person doesn't know what that is, well that's not their fault. Folks  often become defensive or want to reject knowledge when we don't understand something and most of the time buddies follow buddies in decision making. Our core is patent so no other company can copy it. There is a reason why the diamond core and its variations are the best out there. I sure don't want to type all that out lol.

At anytime a bowler can call Lane#1 and ask for help with their bowling ball for anything and talk directly to Richie the owner. Can't do that with other companies.

We produce bowling equipment that generates 20% more Gyroscopic energy without having to apply more energy from the bowler. When the ball is drilled and balance right, the impact power is incredible. Plus your adjustments are smaller and more simpler. Plus we help you build an arsenal and not needing 6-15 balls like some folks do, no need for all that. 3-4 is all you need. Then you create the other adjustments as a bowler because out of those 3-4 balls your adjustments will be small anyways. you will have more confidence in your decision making than ever before, I guarantee that.

 
The quality and value is there without a doubt.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Good Times Good Times on November 05, 2015, 03:32:17 PM
Is it me, or does it seem more logical (from a marketing perspective), for Lane #1 to sell equipment at a (MUCH) more competitive price.........and have more product out there selling itself?


 
It's you.  :)
 
Richie has survived while several other companies have disappeared, or raised the white flag and suffered the indignity of being absorbed by others. Say what you want about the man's views on CG and static weights, but he understands business.
 
His pricing strategy actually makes sense. Maintain the product as a premium offering for bowlers loyal to the brand, and he has a chance of staying in business. He's guaranteed to lose if he tries to get into the volume pricing model we see from the big boys. Time will tell.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: milorafferty on November 05, 2015, 03:40:12 PM
Good times, each company does have their only little take on how things are done etc. Steven is right. No one can sell anything until value exceeds price and even then you will still have folks who cant afford every product at every price. That's why there is different products and prices. Some companies produce 1 new ball every 45 days or so. really? if you end up buying so many balls you are lost in what you need to throw when you are bowling. Consistently changing balls. when you are bowling good,, chances are its the same 2-4 balls you mostly use because you have built the confidence in those and learned the adjustments.

So with Lane#1 what we bring to the table is Technology and a simple way to strike!
not every ball is suitable for every bowler no matter the layout. That's we do have several balls in our current line up but we only produce a few a year. When we help a bowler we get their info like PAP, speed, rev rate and consider what conditions he/she may be bowling on or most of the time. What they think they need may or may not be that ball. We use the GBS theory and static weights along with matching the ending CG weight to the Core angle of the ball. This produces the best BLEND of MOTION for you when you bowl. so it blends the 3 phases of ball motion. Skid, Hook, Roll. with this theory and use of knowledge we are able to maintain the most amount of possible energy and consistent roll from release point till it hits the pocket. Any sudden change in direction and you are losing accuracy and power.

Some folks don't take advantage of drilling their ball to the maximum potential of performance. If a person doesn't know what that is, well that's not their fault. Folks  often become defensive or want to reject knowledge when we don't understand something and most of the time buddies follow buddies in decision making. Our core is patent so no other company can copy it. There is a reason why the diamond core and its variations are the best out there. I sure don't want to type all that out lol.

At anytime a bowler can call Lane#1 and ask for help with their bowling ball for anything and talk directly to Richie the owner. Can't do that with other companies.

We produce bowling equipment that generates 20% more Gyroscopic energy without having to apply more energy from the bowler. When the ball is drilled and balance right, the impact power is incredible. Plus your adjustments are smaller and more simpler. Plus we help you build an arsenal and not needing 6-15 balls like some folks do, no need for all that. 3-4 is all you need. Then you create the other adjustments as a bowler because out of those 3-4 balls your adjustments will be small anyways. you will have more confidence in your decision making than ever before, I guarantee that.

 
The quality and value is there without a doubt.

Ah, so you are saying the diamond core is more than just a sale gimmick?


I suppose using physics you could argue that opposed triangles(or Pyramids) could be the most stable geometric shape, but I don't see that it would be any better for bowling than the simple light bulb core.

But I could be wrong.  ;D
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: billdozer on November 05, 2015, 04:07:46 PM
Good times, each company does have their only little take on how things are done etc. Steven is right. No one can sell anything until value exceeds price and even then you will still have folks who cant afford every product at every price. That's why there is different products and prices. Some companies produce 1 new ball every 45 days or so. really? if you end up buying so many balls you are lost in what you need to throw when you are bowling. Consistently changing balls. when you are bowling good,, chances are its the same 2-4 balls you mostly use because you have built the confidence in those and learned the adjustments.

So with Lane#1 what we bring to the table is Technology and a simple way to strike!
not every ball is suitable for every bowler no matter the layout. That's we do have several balls in our current line up but we only produce a few a year. When we help a bowler we get their info like PAP, speed, rev rate and consider what conditions he/she may be bowling on or most of the time. What they think they need may or may not be that ball. We use the GBS theory and static weights along with matching the ending CG weight to the Core angle of the ball. This produces the best BLEND of MOTION for you when you bowl. so it blends the 3 phases of ball motion. Skid, Hook, Roll. with this theory and use of knowledge we are able to maintain the most amount of possible energy and consistent roll from release point till it hits the pocket. Any sudden change in direction and you are losing accuracy and power.

Some folks don't take advantage of drilling their ball to the maximum potential of performance. If a person doesn't know what that is, well that's not their fault. Folks  often become defensive or want to reject knowledge when we don't understand something and most of the time buddies follow buddies in decision making. Our core is patent so no other company can copy it. There is a reason why the diamond core and its variations are the best out there. I sure don't want to type all that out lol.

At anytime a bowler can call Lane#1 and ask for help with their bowling ball for anything and talk directly to Richie the owner. Can't do that with other companies.

We produce bowling equipment that generates 20% more Gyroscopic energy without having to apply more energy from the bowler. When the ball is drilled and balance right, the impact power is incredible. Plus your adjustments are smaller and more simpler. Plus we help you build an arsenal and not needing 6-15 balls like some folks do, no need for all that. 3-4 is all you need. Then you create the other adjustments as a bowler because out of those 3-4 balls your adjustments will be small anyways. you will have more confidence in your decision making than ever before, I guarantee that.

 
The quality and value is there without a doubt.

Ah, so you are saying the diamond core is more than just a sale gimmick?


I suppose using physics you could argue that opposed triangles(or Pyramids) could be the most stable geometric shape, but I don't see that it would be any better for bowling than the simple light bulb core.

But I could be wrong.  ;D

Then the would be a hyroad or a freeze or a zone...

It's what makes them different (no pun intended, f $300 for a ball) and relevant.  I feel it gives the brand charm, like I'd expect a lane 1 ball to have a diamond shape, OR ELSE!
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: tkkshop on November 06, 2015, 04:54:16 AM
The new Lady Buzzsaw has caught my attention given that I love(d) the Pink, black, and Pearl Panthers!
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: Steven on November 06, 2015, 08:34:10 AM
if you end up buying so many balls you are lost in what you need to throw when you are bowling. Consistently changing balls. when you are bowling good,, chances are its the same 2-4 balls you mostly use because you have built the confidence in those and learned the adjustments.

 
This is an interesting, and I think relevant, observation. I was exclusively Lane#1 for close to 10 years. I decided to branch out because Lane#1 dropped their PBA Registration, and just as important, they went through what I think of as a 'dark' period after leaving Brunswick for their covers.   
 
When I did throw just Lane#1, I never had more than 6-8 balls. Overall, I felt each piece was fairly versatile over a wide range of conditions. I can't remember a Lane#1 I considered a dud. I still have many of the older Lane#1 balls I still throw. Right now, the Stealth Bomber is one of my favorite pieces among everything I own.
 
On the other had, when I went to the mixed company arsenal strategy, I ended up buying many more balls. Many ended up being narrow in usability, so they sat most of the time. I've found a few gems in the Columbia, Motiv and Storm lines that get a lot of continuous use, but I've had to purchase many balls to find them.


I guess the short of it is that I could probably be happy with a much smaller Lane#1 arsenal and be just as effective (or not). Each Lane#1 ball would cost significantly more, but my total net dollar outlay would be less. Maybe this is all just a psychological head trip, but at least in my case, real world empirical evidence says it's true. 
Title: Re: Vault is opening this week on Ebay. Every buzzsaw ever made NIB
Post by: TexasBuzzSaw on November 06, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
if you end up buying so many balls you are lost in what you need to throw when you are bowling. Consistently changing balls. when you are bowling good,, chances are its the same 2-4 balls you mostly use because you have built the confidence in those and learned the adjustments.

 
This is an interesting, and I think relevant, observation. I was exclusively Lane#1 for close to 10 years. I decided to branch out because Lane#1 dropped their PBA Registration, and just as important, they went through what I think of as a 'dark' period after leaving Brunswick for their covers.   
 
When I did throw just Lane#1, I never had more than 6-8 balls. Overall, I felt each piece was fairly versatile over a wide range of conditions. I can't remember a Lane#1 I considered a dud. I still have many of the older Lane#1 balls I still throw. Right now, the Stealth Bomber is one of my favorite pieces among everything I own.
 
On the other had, when I went to the mixed company arsenal strategy, I ended up buying many more balls. Many ended up being narrow in usability, so they sat most of the time. I've found a few gems in the Columbia, Motiv and Storm lines that get a lot of continuous use, but I've had to purchase many balls to find them.


I guess the short of it is that I could probably be happy with a much smaller Lane#1 arsenal and be just as effective (or not). Each Lane#1 ball would cost significantly more, but my total net dollar outlay would be less. Maybe this is all just a psychological head trip, but at least in my case, real world empirical evidence says it's true.


Yes sir you have the right idea now. I am just at fault as anyone when it comes to wanting the newest ball out, I mean who doesn't right? lol However over the years I find myself buying more bowling bags and more balls etc. then I end of having a bunch of different layouts. Then the balls become pattern specific and I hardly used most of them. Then when I don't use them I have to consider plugging them and drilling them again or just selling them. What a waste of money that was.

That's correct it will cost a few bucks more but you are getting a lot more ball. Its hard to want to follow a brand when most bowlers go to other companies. Sure it's appealing when a company comes out with a new ball every 30-45 days. They hype it up and its all new technology and makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside that you just spent $230 and got the newest ball. But if you are spending over 200 bucks every few months on a new ball, and more bags and use more different blah blah layouts thinking you have it figured out this time and nothing has changed. Then folks tell you, that you are bowling wrong that you need to adjust this or that in your approach etc. That's all because you are getting into ball dynamics that don't fit your physical game, so you have to change how you roll the ball to make it work. That's a bad idea and you just went backwards in your game.

Think about this, all the tens of thousands of dollars each one of these huge companies spend in giving out free equipment to staffers and other people each year. How much ahead of that debt do you think they are? It's hard to know exactly, but its a great thought.

I was only speaking in general across the board not to you directly.  8)

 It's frustrating I know, and as a lifetime bowler that I am I have done the exact same thing and have felt the same way. I just want my bowling to be simple and score great. This is Lane#1's main focus for their customers. Helping you keep it simple and score great. Helping customers understand their game and bowl better  through knowledge and Lane#1 equipment.

I will always do my best to help any bowler reach their goals. There might be times when I am wrong and I have no problem admitting when I am.