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Equipment Boards => Lane #1 => Topic started by: Bowlnrd on June 18, 2004, 10:10:24 PM
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I have asked several bowlers who are currently wrapping up the abc nationals and know one seems to know if lane #1 is a independant company or is made by someone else. could any of you tell me? bowlnerd
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they make their own cores but the coverstocks are made by brunswick
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Thanks for informing me i dont understand why no one in reno (where i live)
knew that. But now that i know i guess ill just stick with storm.
thanks again Bowlnerd
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Sorry Jabroni but you are incorrect Lane# 1 does indeed make their own cores and ship them to brunswick which in turn pours their covers around them. Thus the slight increase in cost due to seperate shipping of their cores to brunswick's facility's.
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.
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every time I see someone use the core shipment as the excuse for the price I want to scream!
Has no one every heard of Freight transport!
the cores are only 3 or 4 lbs. you can send a lot of cores in a split transport and cost would be minimal.
someone must work at a shipping department here, they can chime in.
I thinking with a decent qty. they are probably a buck!
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"deserves got nothing to do with it."
-- William Munny
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I said slight increase because I don't think their prices are that much higher or any higher If I find a good deal. I was told this by someone else and I am not trying to make excuses, It is my understanding the cost is increased due to the fragile nature of the cores and the extra precautions taken to ship them safely. You can't just go throwing their cores in one big box and ship them where ever you want would be my take on it. I could be completely wrong in this matter.
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.
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Yes, OmegaBowler you are right it would probably only cost them a 1.00 -1.50 to ship them from a semi, if it is instate or depending on how far they are being transported it shouldn't cost more than 2.00 - 3.00. I can send a instate pallet up to 500lbs for 50.00 were I work. Out of state is a little more. That shipping cost is not enough for them to charge what they do for their bowling balls. That is just my opinion though, I have never been a fan of Lane #1.
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Who gives a sh*t about what the cost is of making Lane 1 balls. They are going to charge what they want to charge for their balls regardless of what the manufacturing cost is.

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Retired and bowling on Fixed Income
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there you go brick! Capitalism. not excuses!
I'm just tired of the mindless sheep that make comments that spew back un-educated 2nd hand statments like they know what's going on behind the curtain.
it costs what they want it to cost and there is nothing more to it! stop making excuses for a company that you buy from,unless you have stock, then that would be Capitalism, dis-honest but still capitalism.
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"deserves got nothing to do with it."
-- William Munny
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I work at a shipping center and even if they shipped them fed-ex ground or ups ground it would be about 4 to 6 dollars max. It is not a shipping issue.
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Wow, you guys are terrible anyway I am not a mindless sheep and I do not pretend to know whats going on i simply heard that from a person whom i trust. I like lane# 1 and I don't care what they charge. I like them simply because i like them, not because I think they are better or because I think they carry better I just like them. Do they make better balls maybe, maybe not. Do they make good balls, well at least for my game yes, maybe not for everyone. I like them because they are one of the "little guys" meaning of course a smaller company. I also like Morich a lot for this same reason. I like balls form the big boys too but i throw lane#1 because thats what I like to do.
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.
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I'm just tired of the mindless sheep that make comments that spew back un-educated 2nd hand statments like they know what's going on behind the curtain.
it costs what they want it to cost and there is nothing more to it! stop making excuses for a company that you buy from,unless you have stock, then that would be Capitalism, dis-honest but still capitalism.
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Sounds like an un-educated 2nd hand statment to me. LOL 
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Penn State Proud
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you have be careful making sheep sounds. it is usually followed by the sound of a zipper somewhere in Oklahoma

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"deserves got nothing to do with it."
-- William Munny
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what is the name of this thread?? Let's see, shall we ??
WHO MAKES LANE 1??
NOT HOW AND WHY THEY COST SO MUCH......STOP IT!!!!!
For Christ's sake, let it go! All of you!
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JEFF
There is doing in not doing
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I'm not going to get into this .. but WHY is it so upsetting to SOME when PRICE is mentioned relative to LANE 1? There isn't too much more to talk about. Their bowling balls are like all other companies (good for some bowlers on SPECIFIC conditions) and then you have PRICE (which is MUCH higher then other companies). Doesn't it seem logical that when bowlers get into a discussion on LANE 1 that PRICE will eventually come up? I think you'd be fairly STUPID to not NOTICE the PRICE DIFFERENCE! If bowlers come on here and want to say that they think the balls are OVERPRICED .. let them! When they say something that's NOT RIGHT then it's time to JUMP on them! I buy LANE 1 BUT THEY ARE OVERPRICED. Incidentally .. the question originally asked has been answered ..
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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the question originally asked has been answered ..
A Men Regardless of how bad some of you here hate Lane 1, let it rest as Jeffrevs and Joe suggest guys. 
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Retired and bowling on Fixed Income
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NO, DON"T LET IT REST. KEEP THE FIGHT GOING!! IT NEVER STOPS ANYWAY SO WHY TRY? IF IT STAYS HERE THEN THE FOOLIOS WHO ARGUE OVER IT MAY NOT BOTHER US ANYWHERE ELSE. (from a refrormed foolio).
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I'm Ragnar Floggurass, and I approve this message
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NO, DON"T LET IT REST. KEEP THE FIGHT GOING!! IT NEVER STOPS ANYWAY SO WHY TRY?
LMAO 


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Retired and bowling on Fixed Income
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The Lane 1 balls are made by Brunswick. All Brunswick weight blocks, their own and any OEM balls they make for other customers are made by a separate company for them. Brunswick buys their resins from Bayer company who is a leader in the field of resins.
The Lane 1 company is just a man having a ball made by a ball company. He has no factory, no staff of designers, no input on anything except the weight block and the decision to make it particle or resin and decide on the colors used.
He is not a player in the ball market. The only manufacturing companies in the ball world is: Brunswick, Columbia, Ebonite, Storm, Visionary & Fred Borden's Lane Masters Bowling Company. All other American brands are made by one of these companies.
The owner of Lane 1, does not have the knowledge or capacity to build a ball on his own. The vision he received to make all balls with one primary designed weight block will run its course and his balls will eventually lose their following and his run will end.
I realize he has made some decent balls, but Brunswick is always going to make the decisions on resins. Lane 1 has no resin formulations, no experience in making resins and their for is totally dependent on Brunswick and Bayer. The characteristics that have made his balls great, are owned by Brunswick.
Because he buys the balls from Brunswick for approximately $89.00 each, he has to mark them up to a ridiculous retail price to make his hefty profit margin. Frankly, they are overpriced when compared to a Brunswick or Columbia ball. These two companies give you the same or better resins for considerably less.
Resins are much more important that the influence of the weight block. The weight block is important, but second to the resins importance. Brunswick is no longer a leader in the bowling ball field and are no longer interested in maintaining the market share needed to develop new and more aggressive resins.
If you are interested in always getting the latest and greatest technology in resins you must focus on Columbia or Storm as they are the leaders in this field (Columbia in first).
The new smaller companies will be hard pressed to keep up with Columbia as they have millions to spend on developing new resins. Recently, Columbia just introduced their latest, an epoxy resin that they state is the future of bowling.
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Big B should have keep their Q Line. I will buy any Q over Lane 1.
If you can afford and BMW why drive a Ford.
Tires more importance on a car or the type of car???? hahahahha you tell mw.
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I bowl better than you casue my ball is rounder then yours
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Big B should have keep their Q Line.
I agree. I loved that line and it is the only line of balls I bought until they quit making them.
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Retired and bowling on Fixed Income
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sorry to change the topic i know roto-grip is made by storm, does roto grip decide about there cover stocks and cores and stuff like that, or does storm decide that stuff, is it just like lane 1?
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Action Man - Take the weight blocks out of bowling balls and about 90% of the public would not be able to hook the ball. If the resins were that important there would be dozens of different ones for each company instead of just a few. There are in fact, though, lots of different weight blocks. If you average 230-240 you know this to be true.
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EvEryOnE rOlls OvEr thE lanE bEd
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sorry to change the topic i know roto-grip is made by storm, does roto grip decide about there cover stocks and cores and stuff like that, or does storm decide that stuff, is it just like lane 1?
Roto-Grip decides on their coverstocks in the same way as any other manufactirer, by testing the resins made avialable to them by the chemical manufacturer, which supplies the bowling company with their chemicals.
Roto-Grip's and Storm's coverstocks are not the same, according to several sources who have posted here on ballreviews.
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Action Man - Take the weight blocks out of bowling balls and about 90% of the public would not be able to hook the ball. If the resins were that important there would be dozens of different ones for each company instead of just a few. There are in fact, though, lots of different weight blocks. If you average 230-240 you know this to be true.
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As far as I have learned from personal experience and other sources,
Cores can modify a ball's coverstock's performance to the extent allowed by the coverstock. They cannot make the coverstock do something it was not capable of doing.
I have yet to see any coorelation between a bowler's average and his knowledge of the technical aspects of bowling balls. Maybe some higher average bowlers do, but I have found this to be the rare exception rather than the rule. This is not to say that you do not. But the high average bowlers I know take make almost any ball do tricks: they know releases, speed adjustments, have faultless hand/eye coordination and can read and react to lane oil changes with an ease that makes th eordinary good bowler jealous. However, rarely do they know bowling balls; their driller fills that job for them, in most cases.
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"We get old too fast, and too late, smart."