Author Topic: XXL Review? (Read 5660 times)

Shaggy · « **on:** August 26, 2003, 09:25:58 AM »

Has anyone thrown the XXL on dry lanes? If so, does it perform well on dry lanes as advertised?

Strider · « **Reply #16 on:** August 31, 2003, 08:37:16 PM »

Please everyone, we've all beat the Lane #1 price/performance thing to death. Shaggy's post was looking for information from people who have thrown the XXL.

I would love to see a comparison of the XXL, Blue Slate Gargoyle, and Blue Pearl Hammer myself. After a tournament with burnt heads, a pearl urethane sounds like what the doctor ordered.
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 31, 2003, 09:39:59 PM »

Strider, I agree with you. It is however always the same 2 or 3 people that start it up everytime no matter where the post, so the people that like Saws defend their position. If the Saw people kicked around Storm, Columbia, Ebonite, Hammer, or whom ever all the time like these guys do Saws, these same guys plus scores of others would be defending those balls just like the Saw people do the Saws. However, the Saw people don't kick around the other company's as they do just like Seadrive said and that is "if we don't like those balls/companys", we don't read the posts. Apparently these 2 or 3 inmature guys have nothing better to do.

Buzzhead · « **Reply #18 on:** August 31, 2003, 10:44:41 PM »

I can only think of 2 of them....but you are right they do jump all over anyone that even thinks about buying a saw.
I rarely go into any companies that I do not throw. I visit lane 1, Storm, RotoGrip, and Brunswick. Other than that I could care less what everyone else throws. When one of us sawheads defend our position we must be rich to thow those expensive orbs..

My bag consists of this.

Lane #1
Pearl Carbide Bomb cost me $55 plus $17 to plug and redrill.
Blueberry bought new $150 plus $25 to drill.
Viper cost $50 plus $17 to plug and redrill
XXXL cost $99 plus $25 to drill

Storm
Eraser $35 nothing else.
Flame Reactive traded an unused ball. nothing else.

Roto Grip
Assault traded a used ball I bought on here for it. cost $15 to plug and redrill
Assault Pearl $30 plus $8 to plug thumb.

I really do not see any expensive balls in there.

I paid $220 with drilling for 2 balls only, a HPH, and a HPC. I will not pay retail for anything.
I change my own inserts at .80 each from my local MOOSE LODGE BOWLING CENTER.
and IF I were to buy a new ball other than a Saw (which will be from Doug Sterner) I would probably buy it through them too at $10 over cost.
I have spent way more money on Brunswick Zones than I have in the 6 buzzsaws I have had. (I had to buy all of them new as this site was not around.)
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Charles · « **Reply #19 on:** August 31, 2003, 11:38:58 PM »

I am so sick of this storyline myself. I like to see all bowlers do well for the betterment of the sport, however, people like Tenpinitis and DMcLaughlin, although they are great to deal with and I have had several good deals with, are hereby granted an open invitation by my signature phrase. As a matter of fact Justin (Tenpinitis). your only about 3 hours away and I need some money to buy the new Black Cherry Bomb. Want to meet and settle this issue somewhere in the middle. Singles? Doubles? Team? Doesn't matter and all that will be thrown from this end will be BUZZSAW!!!!
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ATTENTION ALL BUZZSAW HATERS! Here is your golden opportunity to shut your mouth, bring your money, and add to my Buzzsaw arsenal by losing like the rest.

Saw Mill · « **Reply #20 on:** August 31, 2003, 11:52:28 PM »

Put together a get-together, and I will obviously bowl on the Saw side of town. That would be interesting to see that outcome! Oh wait, since the saw haters are toooo cheap, I will save them the bucks, don't show up because the Saws will be on top of the water, rather than an anchor, under it!

Dave
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If You Are Not the Lead SAW, All You Get is SAWdust!!

Steven · « **Reply #21 on:** September 01, 2003, 05:21:44 PM »

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Why not just find yourself an old school hammer pearl for 1/2 the price?

Bjaardker: If you owned and experienced a plastic XXXL, you wouldn't be asking this question.

The XXXL in it's own right is a superior dry lane ball to the Blue Pearl Hammer. Given the performance of the XXXL, the new XXL should be even more of a winner.

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Bjaardker · « **Reply #22 on:** September 01, 2003, 08:53:34 PM »

Both pearl urethane, Both Symmetrical cores.

Clump, your metaphor is ridiculous. Where there is a huge difference in resins, a pearl urethane is a pearl urethane.

Where is the technological advancement in the XXL? The core? Prove it.

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Yesterday's oil is not the same as todays and this here XXL is built fer today's type of oil.

How so? It's a pearl urethane. I thought the whole point of the ball was for when there wasn't enough oil on the lanes.

Maybe if lane #1 wasn't so self righteous & gave a little more info & less anecdote on their bowling balls (the cranberry & XXL aren't even on their webpage yet) I would consider them.

I ask again, give REAL reasons why the XXL is so much better than any other 2 piece pearl urethane. Numbers, addetives in the coverstock, anything other than "well...uh... buzzsaws hit hard".

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 01, 2003, 10:29:25 PM »

Look at it from the other side of the fence BJ....What makes you think the pearl urathene is as good as an XXL when you haven't even tried an XXL?

Bjaardker · « **Reply #24 on:** September 02, 2003, 12:04:06 AM »

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Look at it from the other side of the fence BJ....What makes you think the pearl urathene is as good as an XXL when you haven't even tried an XXL?

I don't, but then again I'm not the one producing & selling balls.

It's called proving your product.

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 02, 2003, 12:30:44 AM »

Well BJ, you are the one that told Shaggy to find a pearl urethane rather than buy an XXL, so apparently you think the pearl urethane is a better ball or you wouldn't have told him that.

Bjaardker · « **Reply #26 on:** September 02, 2003, 10:23:18 AM »

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Well BJ, you are the one that told Shaggy to find a pearl urethane rather than buy an XXL, so apparently you think the pearl urethane is a better ball or you wouldn't have told him that.

I never said it was a better ball. Cheaper? Yes I did say that. As far as better, I can't say one way or the other. We do know that the pearl hammer has proven itself as a timeless classic that still is striking today. The XXL is an unproven ball, so I can't really compare them one way or the other.

I said "Why not just find yourself an old school Hammer for 1/2 the price".

As of yet I still haven't to hear why exactly a person should spend the extra $$ on an XXL.

Clump says it's some sort of "new" pearl urethane coverstock.....right. Thought the whole point of going with the pearl urethane is to get the dry lane reaction of guess what....A PEARL URETHANE. Next they're going to tell me that the XXXL has a "NEW" kind of plastic coverstock.

The only thing I see really having an impact could be something like the CoR of the coverstock being different, the durometer measure, or the material that the core is made of. That is REAL info that sells balls.

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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 02, 2003, 11:07:44 AM »

BJ, unless I am nmistaken, the reason you haven't heard why a person should spend extra $$ on an XXL is because to my knowledge, no one has one yet.

FYI, like you do, I used to think it was the dumbest thing I ever heard of when people spent extra $$ for Buzzsaws and I could see no proof they were any better. After numerous failures and spending a lot of $$ on two other companies equipment and having it fail to match up for my style, I received a "rock bottom" deal on a Buzzsaw. Since I had heard these balls were bowler friendly and an excellent ball for the average league bowler, I decided, "what the heck", I'm throwing away $$ on all of those other balls that don't match up for me, so what do I have to lose? I bought the ball and have not regretted it one day since. So the bottom line to this?......A person can not afford to be be "nearsighted" and just look at $$ of cost when purchasing a ball, they have to look at what works best for them and forget about cost. For my self and others, that's Buzzsaws.....And yet for others, I'm sure it is another brand.

T-GOD · « **Reply #28 on:** September 02, 2003, 11:45:49 AM »

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no body gets on here and gloats and gloats and rants and raves about the other balls.

Why is that..? =:^D

Steven · « **Reply #29 on:** September 02, 2003, 12:22:56 PM »

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As of yet I still haven't to hear why exactly a person should spend the extra $$ on an XXL.

Bjaardker: I have both the Blue Pearl Hammer, and the Plastic XXXL. The XXXL, even with the plastic cover, is more predictable and hits harder than the Hammer. The Hammer can handle a little more oil, but once you get into that territory, there are many balls that are a superior choice -- the Ebonite V2 Dry for example.

What's more important is that you are making a judgement here without experiencing both. That's intellectually dangerous. I'm no buzzhead, but I bought the XXXL out of curiosity and found that the Lane#1 core in a weaker cover is a great combination.

The old Hammers was great balls in their time but there are much better choices for todays lane conditions.

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seadrive · « **Reply #30 on:** September 02, 2003, 01:19:29 PM »

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