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Equipment Boards => Lane Masters => Topic started by: Laybzz74 on April 28, 2006, 12:08:22 PM
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Roomies, your feedback and opinions are welcome !!!(check my profile for the layouts so that you understand my order here)
"Strongest" to "weakest" balls, descending order:
- Terminator(polished particle) medium to medium-heavy
- 2 World Class (particle) heavy to medium-heavy, slightly different layouts
- World Class reactive medium
- New Standard (particle) medium *My benchmark ball*
- Masterpiece (reactive) medium
- KONG (particle) medium to med-light
- Big Kahuna (particle) 2.5 by 3 layout/polished; early revving and tame backend
- Absolute Power (raective) light
- Straight Flush (three piece reactive) for "dirt" conditions
- Arrow (plastic) spare ball
You now have an idea of my planned arsenal for the 2006-07 season !!! And it'll obviously be 100% Legends/LaneMasters balls !!!
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
Edited on 8/21/2006 4:54 PM
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"BD",
Nope ... tryin' to PASS ya !!!

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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Yup, Panic ... and I'm 2 legit 2 quit !!!

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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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ttt ... anyone else ???
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Well, I don't have any experience with the Buzz, but the rest seem like a good spread. I've used the 3 middle ones: Kong, NS and WC and they fit that range well, almost too well. Right now and personally, I like my Absolute Power where you have the Kong. It handles carrydown like bowlingnut says his Kong handles it.
Oddly, in my current Dungeon of Doom, I mean, my home house, I use the AP as my occasional oiler. Most times I need much weaker balls.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Good Lord Rob.....got enough rocks there? lol.
Good news..I went and bowled in a tournie today....and playing straight up 10, with my Tropical Storm..I shoot 220, 258, 245, 227, 243-1193. I qualified 2nd, got a 2 round bye into the semil finals and got smoked in my match play game 193-230 lol. Good times...
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American Masters Bowling Tour in Michigan! 206 and Under Handicap, 221 and under Scratch! www.americanmastersbowling.com
Raw Hammer Doom, Lemon Lime Tropical Storm
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quote:
What bank did you rob? Can I go next time?
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2005-2006 PBA East Regional Results
Billiard Towne.Com Open
April 28-30 ~ 37th (+70, 1670) $400(Cash +69)
Rose Bowl Lanes Open Presented by Hammer
May 12-14 ~ 45th (+25, 1625) $0 (Cash +85)
2006/07 PBA Average - 205.93 (3295/16)
2006/07 Earnings - $400.00
Keith,
With that PBA average, you don't need any more balls. CONGRATS!
Robb,
What's the matter? You don't like the Masterpiece?? It's the only one you left out. Since you now have even more Lanemasters balls than I do, you can answer all the questions about them. 
Indeed, which bank did you rob?
Talk about loving a ball company. I think you've beaten out some of the Lane#1 fanatics.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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What can I say ??? I'm absolutely enamored with these balls !!!

I have a 4 ball roller, a 4 ball roller with a joey, and two 2 ball totes; I don't actually envision having all of these by the end of next season, and may even sell a couple befoe the 2006-07 season starts. 
BTW, I don't rule out a Masterpiece sometime down the road !!!
Oh, I forgot that I have a Perfection particle due in soon from Doug Sterner too; I'm gonna try a "pin-axis" layout on that one !!!
Ya think that I'm a "ball-junkie or not ???
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Roomies, your feedback and opinions are welcome !!!
Right...you're just showing off all the balls you have! Haha, just joking. Looks like your set...I mean...with that many in the arsenal, how could you have a hole!?
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Saturday Youth League
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"Fins",
The only "hole" that I have is in my game !!!
(But I'm working on it !!!
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Roomies, your feedback and opinions are welcome !!!
Right...you're just showing off all the balls you have! Haha, just joking. Looks like your set...I mean...with that many in the arsenal, how could you have a hole!?
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I know you were only half joking, as was I, but never make fun of enthusiasm. It's the basis of dedication and all true fun.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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To be truthful, my enthusiasm now extends to practice too !!! I'm hoping that it'll make a positive difference in my game and my versatility (time will tell).
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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...guaranteed your arsenal doesn't look like that by the end of the season...
According to the 6th volume from the annals of ball whoredome 3. Thou shalt never create a set arsenal and be happy with it.
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stanski
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Yur probably right, stanski ... no problem !!!
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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At the other end of the spectrum I have a 2 ball combo that covers everything for me.
Big Bang - Heavy to Medium Heavy
2 inch pin under ring finger CG kicked out at 45 degree angle.
Kong - Medium to Medium light
3 inch pin under ring finger CG slightly kicked out.
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Hey, Laybzz74
Since you out dueled Charlest with that L/LM arsenal maybe you can answer this question for me.. ;o) Of course Charlest your insight on this is welcomed and appreciated as well...
I got a question about arsenals... I have a Hot Rod Hybrid drilled for distance.. would the MP overlap the Hot rod and where would it fit?
Edited on 5/22/2006 10:46 AM
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Hey, Laybzz74
Since you out dueled Charlest with that L/LM arsenal maybe you can answer this question for me.. ;o) Of course Charlest your insight on this is welcomed and appreciated as well...
I got a question about arsenals... I have a Hot Rod Hybrid drilled for distance.. would the MP overlap the Hot rod and where would it fit?
Edited on 5/22/2006 10:46 AM
Under normal circumstance the MP is significantly stronger than the Hybrid; it handles 1 to 1.5 degrees or levels of more oil and hooks a WHOLE lot more. Unless you have much higher ball speed than rev rate or unless you weaken the ball by a 6" pin to PAP, the MP handles no less than true medium oil at a minimum.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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"BD",
Reply sent via a PM ...
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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"true",
... what charlest said ...
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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laybzz74, is the front runner for now , i sold 9 of their balls last year that i had due to a pinched nerv tried diferent layouts to compinsate for the pain but it did not help so i sold the balls till i had my hand worked one so now i had to start over now i have 3 ns2s with different layouts and cover adjustments , 2 worldclass different layouts and surface , big bang box finish , masterpiece box finish , i need something under the mp ?
need help more legends please 
The Lanemaster Absolute Power, fits under the MP for me. It needs less oil and hooks in a more controllable manner. I have them drilled almost identically.
The new Buzz may also fit but I have no experience with it, to enable me to say one way or the other.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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Thanx Charlest, Now I'm going to start building my L/Lm arsenal.. i want to be just like Laybzz74.. LoLz.. my idol..
The new Buzz is hard to find... Anyone know where they might be selling it..??
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Wow ... except for my kids, I've never been anyones IDOL before !!!

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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Thanx Charlest, Now I'm going to start building my L/Lm arsenal.. i want to be just like Laybzz74.. LoLz.. my idol..
The new Buzz is hard to find... Anyone know where they might be selling it..??
Hard to find? Impossible, except at Anne Marie and Pat Duggan's Bowling Ball Mall:
http://www.bowlingballmall.com/bowl/product.asp?dept%5Fid=305&pf%5Fid=9333&mfgid=284&Shopper=BF69UGBPP4BL9JUXDGHN00DCAE500439
Why? I do not know.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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Thanx, Charlest ... I missed that question !!!
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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Deal pending on one of the 2 Big Bangs ... who needs two ???
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters balls ... Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM
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ttt ... adding another !!! Masterpiece is due in next week !!!
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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its about time RObb lol
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Hey Laybzz74, any chance you can post pictures of this equipment?
I don't see Lanemasters or Legends balls very often (more like, never) and I'd like to see how some of these balls really look. Somebody recently posted a pic of a World Class for sale and it looked nothing like what I was expecting, including that it looked pearly (but like a Brunswick pearl, so not too pearly) and more teal than anything.
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Official Member of the BrunsTrackColumStormHammEboRotoBuzzAMF Nation!
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Laybzz74, How many leagues do you bowl and do you ever bowl tournaments?
Amigo
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All I ever wanted to do get to the line on time & throw the ball well!
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Amigo,
I bowl 2 leagues and sub regularly on a couple more. I turn 50 this month and plan on putting in for my PBA card and getting into a few Senior Reginal tournaments in this region this coming season.
Walking E,
I need to sit down and take pix of my "L/L babies soon, for sure !!! If I can figure out which online .com would be the easiest and most user-friendly to use, I'll do that soon. I have a digital camera and can download pix but have never uploaded them to a site like some of the BR roomies in here have done ... I like the slideshow feature that I've seen on a few that have been posted or in our profile area.
Ron,
YUP !!! Had to make the plunge and get the MP !!!

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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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It keeps growing !!!
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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Question: If I drill a NS and a MP with the same exact layout will it react the same or different because of how the ball is made..??
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Different reactions; the NS is light load particle ball and the MP is reactive resin;. There is nothing wrong with doing the same layout, especiaally if it's a layout that you like and that works for you (many people do that and many recommend it), but you will see different reactions.
As I do with most of my responses, I'd contact Galen at Legends and get his thoughts on your ideas before drilling.
Good luck ... and post feedback on both after you get them punched out.
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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If I had the time to bowl and relax, I would have a similar line up like you. Please post up review for the Paticle WC and the Terminator. With so many L/L you going to be a L/L guru like Galen.. LoLz..
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For bowling in the two houses I bowl in, I don't need a huge arsenal. I have been communitating with Galen and he has recommended 3 balls for me to start with along with the drilling layout for each ball. He has recommended:
World Class Particle
World Class Reactive
Straight Flush
I plan on getting a World Class Particle within the next 2 weeks or so and if I am happy with it, then I will move on to the World Class Reactive and then the Straight Flush for the drier lanes. Yeah, and get this..... regardless of whats been written in the past, they will all be 14# balls if the first one works OK. Galen has convinced me they will do what I want, so I am going to "give it a try".
I feel these symetrical cores along with the covers that are on the balls, that there is a good chance they will match up to me better than the strong assymetrical cores that haven't matched up to me very well. I'm excited to try the first ball.
Rob, I appoligize if I have hi-jacked your post here. 
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Brick 
Edited on 7/18/2006 2:50 PM
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Jim,
No apology needed ... you just gave it a "bump" for me. 
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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August update
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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Man Robb, How many ball roller you carrying to fit all those in..?? LoLz..
Well, I'm waiting till the Big-R-Bang comes out then I'm pretty much set..
My arsenal will include:
Terminator --> Medium - Heavy Oil
Big-R-Bang --> Medium
The Buzz --> Medium - Dry
Even though i wont be able to cover as much area of the lanes as you but it will be a nice start. What are you're thoughts on my set up? I was thinking about a NS too but i think it will have a conflict with the Big-R- bang...
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Yo "True",
Not bad ... but I'd prefer the WC or Big Bang for heavier oil and drilled STRONG !!! Can't comment on the Big R Bang yet, but the Buzz should work OK too.
BTW, I have a STORM Rolling Thunder 6 ball roller and a HAMMER 4 ball inline roller with a "joey", as well as a LEGENDS 2-ball tote for my overflow (but I'm really trying to keep it under an even dozen(currently at 11)!!!
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)