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rickywin

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Should I retry?
« on: January 31, 2009, 09:13:45 AM »
So I purchased a used Lane Masters Terminator a year or so back, and it rolled pretty well. I liked its reaction, but it wasn't the big oilier I hoped it was. Thing was, it had a gigantic weight hole on the side, as it was drilled for someone else. Now that I've stopped using the used Terminator...should I think of purchasing the new one, so that it could be drilled to my PAP, etc? Would it be useful or just a waste of money?

 

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2009, 05:22:11 PM »
Did you sand the one you bought to rougher surface?

The stock surface is sort of a compound finish (almost a light polish) to make it more versatile. If you sanded it with even a light grey nylon pad (800 grit US, 2000 grit Abralon pad is 1000 grit US), it would be much more aggressive. There are two different sized particles in that coverstock, one large and one small, just for that purpose. If necessary, the green nylon pad is approximately 600 grit US.

Try that first, unless you got rid of the ball, before buying a new one.

Weight holes often, but not always make a ball more aggressive. It depends on where you PAP is and where they put the weight hole.

The usefulness of the ball also depends on how the ball was drilled with respect to your PAP, although, in general, the surface is much more important than the drilling.

One other thought:
As resistant as Lanemasters balls are to getting oil soaked too quickly, over time, they also do absorb enough oil to reduce their performance. It depends on their use. If you bought a used ball, it's always safest to do an oil extraction (Revivor treatment, hot water bath, whatever) before using it.
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rickywin

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 05:29:44 PM »
I did sand it. The only reason why I don't use the used one is that its weight hole is actually illegal in that it is larger than 1 1/8 inches or however big the weight hole can be. I mean the weight hole was enormous! Also, the fit isn't quite right. It's possible for me to get it plugged and redrilled, but I don't know if it would be cost-effective (30 to plug, then 40 to drill) and I wouldn't be sure it would react the same. Plus, I've plugged it and redrilled it at least twice, so I'm not too sure if thats good for the ball to plug it again.

Plus, the weight hole is starting to chip away, as well as the coverstock around the finger holes. Not too sure if it's "fixable"

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 05:51:42 PM »
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I did sand it. The only reason why I don't use the used one is that its weight hole is actually illegal in that it is larger than 1 1/8 inches or however big the weight hole can be. I mean the weight hole was enormous! Also, the fit isn't quite right. It's possible for me to get it plugged and redrilled, but I don't know if it would be cost-effective (30 to plug, then 40 to drill)



That's ridiculous. Plug and redrill should be more than drilling a blank, but not that much more.


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 and I wouldn't be sure it would react the same. Plus, I've plugged it and redrilled it at least twice, so I'm not too sure if thats good for the ball to plug it again.



You've had it plugged and redrilled twice WITHOUT changing the weight hole??
AND you think/know it's not drilled for your PAP?

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Plus, the weight hole is starting to chip away, as well as the coverstock around the finger holes. Not too sure if it's "fixable"


I think you may have backed yourself in a corner.

The Terminator has the capability to be a strong oil ball for very many people. Some may need to sand it to 800 or 1000 grit for true heavy oil, from its stock surface, which is meant for less than true heavy oil. That's about all I can say right now.
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rickywin

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2009, 06:25:39 PM »
Yeah, wasn't really thinking of the layout when I had them redrilled twice. It mostly dealt with changing the pitch in the thumbhole, more so than changing the layout. I actually do think its fixable. The holes would just need to be drilled out a bit more, then plugged. That would work for the finger holes at least. The weight hole, not too sure how that would work, but I'll see what can be done with it! Thanks. I was thinking of tossing it, but I think i'll work with it instead.

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2009, 08:14:07 PM »
drill layout makes a big difference. i've had two of the same ball with differnent layouts and it was like a completely different ball
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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2009, 09:34:05 PM »
What ball did you layout differently?

zone

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 11:15:52 AM »
yeah baby, kong, hornet. had 2 of both. same weights and very close to same specs. redilled kong and yeah baby, really 3 differnt layouts on those 2.
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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 11:51:15 AM »
Plug and redrill the weight hole seen done many times, just use a legal size this time.

rickywin

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 03:36:28 PM »
Awesome! Would you suggest any specific layout for the Terminator? I tried looking for a drill sheet online for lane masters, but couldn't find it.

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 05:22:37 PM »
Here's you LM drill sheet:http://marketing.lanemasters.com/LM_Ball%20Drilling%20Instructions_09.pdf
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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 05:58:06 PM »
I have two of these one pin under ring and one pin over ring, for me the pin over ring which is right at 4 5/8 to pap for me is the nuts in box.

The pin down ball even dulled really is just pure roll and smooth the whole way, guess it must be the bigger particle kicking in never knew about that before.

More oil go even with finger plane or down probably 4 inch pin to pap area, otherwise copy my drilling and be happy on alot more shots even medium-heavy's.

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Re: Should I retry?
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 08:44:41 AM »
mine is stacked with weight hole on PAP. great ball for me. i never have anything with CG kicked right (execpt Rico stuff) cuz it always rolls out on me.
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