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justink

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Best For Down and In
« on: July 13, 2006, 02:29:59 AM »
I am looking for a ball that would compliment my down an in style. Have some speed with not allot of hand. I have been looking at the Big Bang, but wanted to see what you all would suggest.

Thank you.
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Re: Best For Down and In
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2006, 03:35:58 PM »
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Quick question about the expanding of the weight hole. You stated that a lower hole would make a greater difference. Would it be worthwhile to fill the current hole and then drill the bigger hole lower but over that hole? So that it actually removes the filler. In essence it would only move the center of the hole about a half an inch, but lower nonetheless.
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Personally,in my opinion, I'd fill them all and redrill the AP2 with the pin IN the ring finger hole. My PAP is 5"x0" also. This is a strong, medium length drill. If you stack the CG immediately below the pin/ring finger or even kick it out a bit, say creating a 4"x3" drill, that should be a decently strong reacting ball to handle carrydown without resorting to the NS2. (That said, it should also cause you to need to move your feet 1-2 boards deeper, because it is a stronger drill.) Your "need" currently for the NS2 is not just for carrydown, but more for the drier heads; it has more natural length than the AP2, ESPECIALLY with the NS2 drilled with a 5" pin!
 
The change you're talking about to the weight hole will not normally make a significant difference. It may not make any difference. Remember, you already have the ball at 320 grit (maroon pad); that is EXTREMELY rough and one I do not ever recommend. If you need that, you need a stronger coverstock. (Apologies! I should have mentioned that earlier.)  Actually, if anyone "NEEDS" 400 grit and lower, they/you need a stronger ball (either cover or cover/core combo)
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Re: Best For Down and In
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2006, 04:08:02 PM »
One issue with the AP2 is I bought it from Laybzz and it has already been redrilled once. I got lucky in that my span is basically the same as his and I got away with only a change of the finger tips and slight thumb adjustment. So would it still be advisable to plug it. I guess I could map out the redrill on it and see how close that would be to the original drill. Theres an idea.

As far as it being at 320, I don't know if that's exactly correct. There isn't a big difference between the grey and burg pad with that ball. Maybe I haven't gotten medieval with the pad to make it quite that dull. I use the shops spinner now, at least until I can find a cup for my home made spinner.
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Re: Best For Down and In
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2006, 05:30:47 PM »
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One issue with the AP2 is I bought it from Laybzz and it has already been redrilled once. I got lucky in that my span is basically the same as his and I got away with only a change of the finger tips and slight thumb adjustment. So would it still be advisable to plug it. I guess I could map out the redrill on it and see how close that would be to the original drill. Theres an idea.


A lot depends on the ball, how it was drilled (where the holes are with respect to the core's high and low RG, etc. AFAIK, The only way to tell is to re-drill it.

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As far as it being at 320, I don't know if that's exactly correct. There isn't a big difference between the grey and burg pad with that ball.


Ok, my opinion is there's a HUGE difference between 800 grit (light grey pad) and the maroon's 320 grit. It depends on how it was done. Thi smakes me wonder what you actually have and who, with what level of experience, did what to the ball. I don't doubt it, but I wonder. I now feel I don't know what grit level each ball is actually on, at this point in time.

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Maybe I haven't gotten medieval with the pad to make it quite that dull. I use the shops spinner now, at least until I can find a cup for my home made spinner.
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It's not so much a question of getting "medieval", as it is a question of doing the same thing to each ball, with regards to pressure, time, water, and freshness of the nylon pad. experience means a lot in this case.Just having a feel for what you're doing and where you want to take each ball.

aybe you hit the grey pad too hard; maybe you hit the maroon pad to lightly?? I can't sayfor sure, of course, Only you can, BUT, BUT a better indicator is always ball reaction. However, different balls, with different particle loads, with different pin location/distance is a VERY, VERY difficult comparison.

The GOOD part is you are, currently  using these balls as go-to's, one from the other.
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Re: Best For Down and In
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2006, 09:07:50 AM »
just make the hole size 1/4" larger in the same place and the same depth,you need to only make on change at a time when experimenting.
the size of the weight hole will lower rg and make the ball rev easier for you.
don't sand the ball down it will cause it to burn up early and not save any energy for the backend.L/LM balls react to weight holes and rg changes alot more because of their deep shell and inner core construction.
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Re: Best For Down and In
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2006, 10:55:44 AM »
Actually a good ball for that line could be the new Terminator, just matte how you have it drilled.  Balle is shiny pearl particle.

Last night in league I was playing about 20 to 5 and it would just shot back like someone kicked it, but that is how mine is drilled for me.  It clears the heads real smooth.  I have mine drilled 4 x 4.  I throw around 17-19 mph and have a good amount of revs.
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