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rickywin

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Surface changes?
« on: November 22, 2008, 05:42:42 AM »
I was wondering if Lane Masters/Legends balls are notoriously hard to change surfaces? I've tried adjusting the surface on my Big Bang and it looks dull after I hit it with the 400 scotch brite pad. After a game or so of a 40 foot pattern, 2.5 to 1 ratio, it shines up decently and it begins to lose its grab. I've heard their particles are hard to change/surface. Most of my Lane Masters balls are medium RG, and I don't have that much hand, so sometimes it doesn't quite match up on longer patterns.
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charlest

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Re: Surface changes?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2008, 02:30:15 PM »
With a Scotch Brite pad, you will rough up the resin on a Big Bang. Not much except Diamond pads are able to change the particles, so don't worry about that. 400 grit? I assume you mean the maroon pad. It is considered to be about 320 grit US. The green one is considered to be about 600 grit US.

Meanwhile the Big Bang, if you have less than medium revs, is not the ball, from several aspects, for heavy oil. The core on that one usually helps with some length, but you've countered that with a fairly rough surface.

In any case, I'd recommend several other of their particles for a better look on medium-heavy to heavy oil: the new Dynamic Power is fairly inexpensive as Lanemasters balls go. The World Class particle (solid blue) is an earlier rolling variant of the Big Bang. The Terminator & Black Pearl particle will also help you handle heavier oil, once you remove their shine.

By the way, redrilling the BB for an early roll, like a rev leverage drilling, would also help a lot.

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rickywin

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Re: Surface changes?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2008, 02:36:13 PM »
I do actually have a Terminator. I put some shine on it, but I can try knocking it off. The two pads that came with the ball, the grey and maroon pad, what are the surfaces on those? I used the dark grey pad. The terminator was one I bought used, and it usually doesn't hook on these lanes, but I'll try knocking the shine off it.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2008, 03:27:37 PM »
FYI the grey pad is approx 800 grit US.

Try the Term in practice with about half the shine knocked off by hand.
If necessary, knock off the other half, but LIGHTLY!!!!

The sanded Term is farily aggressive. It has 2 different sized particles. They can be very aggressive, when dull. That's why it comes with a light polish. Even then, for the average rev bowler, it handles medium heavy oil.
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rickywin

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Re: Surface changes?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2008, 03:40:42 PM »
Sounds good! Should I take off polish with the maroon pad or grey pad?
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2008, 05:18:10 PM »
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Sounds good! Should I take off polish with the maroon pad or grey pad?


I'd use the grey one. The red is VERY aggressive.
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rickywin

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Re: Surface changes?
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2008, 09:43:26 PM »
I surface changed my terminator and Big Bang with the maroon pad on a spinner about 30 seconds each side. Came out pretty dull. Threw em on some pretty broken down lanes. Playing about swing around 10 board out to about 8, not really that much angle, but thats how I usually play. It does pick up a little earlier. I'll wait to use it on my sport pattern I usually bowl on. Big Bang grabbed a bit earlier and kicked left. So even with some surface, the ball still makes a big left turn.

I'm also pretty speed dominant currently. Trying to get the rev rate up a bit. I can rev it up sometimes, but its really inconsistent. Thats why I'm using a glove to keep my wrist position consistent.
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Re: Surface changes?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2008, 02:04:19 AM »
The maroon pad is pretty rough at 320 grit, but if you need it, don't hesitate. Just be cautious. You can always add more surface. It's harder and messier to re-polish and then re-sand, or re-sand smoother. You don't want to pass the point at which you need either ball.

Surface is the easiest thing to do, over re-drilling and buying new balls that you may not need. Surface is also the most appropriate thing to do in 75-90% of the cases.

Good luck.
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Re: Surface changes?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2008, 02:42:14 AM »
Thanks so much for your help!
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