Post by: woodz 300 on July 25, 2006, 12:25:19 AM
Post by: Gazoo on July 25, 2006, 08:36:26 AM
Post by: Panic on July 25, 2006, 03:08:20 PM
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Post by: Panic on July 25, 2006, 03:25:07 PM
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Any ball in the Lane#1 line is the best LaneMasters ball you can get.
LaneMasters is a bunch of patent stealing wannabes.
FYI - They are currently being sued by Lane#1 for patent infringement.
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What are you talking about, get your facts straight.
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Post by: Joe Jr on July 25, 2006, 03:41:14 PM
Get lost!
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Post by: WSUstroker on July 25, 2006, 05:15:32 PM
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Post by: Panic on July 25, 2006, 08:21:03 PM
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Goddamn Lane1 idiots!
Get lost!
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Edited on 7/21/2006 1:21 PM
Amen Joe!
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Post by: Walking E on July 25, 2006, 08:32:55 PM
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MMike speaks the truth. In talking with some people who attended the BR gathering in NC, Richie said that lanemasters stole one of their cores, I would assume it would be the core from the Satisfaxtion and World Class as it resembles shape of a diamond, ie skinny on the top and bottom, fat in the middle. He also said the term "big bang" was his because they apparently used the term in an ad for the SCB. This in turn, makes Lanemasters a bunch of thiefs, if you believe in the Gospel according to Richie.
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Hmmm, there are other cores that look like that. Look at the AMF Titan series or Storm Fired Up series to see similar-looking cores (fat in the middle, skinny on top and bottom).
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Post by: Joe Jr on July 25, 2006, 08:35:16 PM
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Edited on 7/21/2006 1:21 PM
Post by: WSUstroker on July 25, 2006, 11:40:29 PM
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Post by: Joe Jr on July 25, 2006, 11:48:43 PM
Dude take your, everyone's picking on Lame1, everyones out to get Lame1 BS and go back to your own forum, because we're all sick of that crap.
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Edited on 7/21/2006 1:21 PM
Post by: mrbowlingnut on July 25, 2006, 11:49:44 PM
Post by: Joe Jr on July 25, 2006, 11:52:27 PM
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Big Kahuna is discontinued according to a distributor on the west coast, i tried to order a BK or Kong today both are out of stock gone !!!
Good thing i've got one coming! I want to try the Yeah Baby and have a feeling it's going to be gone soon also.
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Edited on 7/21/2006 1:21 PM
Post by: Panic on July 26, 2006, 12:00:22 AM
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Lukas
Post by: Joe Jr on July 26, 2006, 12:03:22 AM
Holy crap I noticed how bad we hijacked this thread! Sorry laura80, but those Lame1 people drive me insane.
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Edited on 7/21/2006 1:21 PM
Post by: Strider on July 26, 2006, 12:09:20 AM
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Post by: WSUstroker on July 26, 2006, 12:10:08 AM
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Post by: Joe Jr on July 26, 2006, 12:14:01 AM
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Edited on 7/26/2006 0:09 AM
Post by: truexmiracle on July 26, 2006, 09:20:01 AM
Post by: golfnutFL on July 26, 2006, 11:58:23 AM
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Once again I will try and HELP you to understand basic "legal" thinking. I am speaking of advertising in the same type of product. In your line of thought you are way out in left field with another cheater named Barry Bonds.
Coke and Pepsi, same line of product. Lane#1 and Chevy, not the same products.
If you were to take a look at this link, you would see for yourself that the advertising that I speak of is in plain print on this webpage.
http://lane1bowling.com/whatnext/
It has been on this page for quite a while. Take a look at the second down on the left and the third down on the right.
This is the type of stuff that has been misused by Lanemasters in their advertising, after it was clearly used in Lane#1's advertising.
That is stealing another competitors ideas and using them as your own. Once you use a phrase in your advertising, your competitors are not allowed to use it. If you do, it is ILLEGAL.
On a side note:
I support Lane#1 because their products work for me. Not because I was given a free piece of equipment. In the past I have used Hammer and AMF(Urethane days), Brunswick(Quantum days), Track(EMB days), and Storm(X Factor days). I use what scores. I would support Ebonite or even Elite if their products work for me and I score with them.
I have thrown other peoples Kong, Yeah Baby, New Standard, and a Big Kahuna and thought they were pretty good balls.
But that does not excuse Lanemasters from stealing other companies ideas. That is the whole basis for me having a problem with LaneMasters. I am just calling a thief a thief. That is my opinion and I am entitled to it.
We will all have to wait to see the outcome of the lawsuit before we will know for sure who is right. I believe that Lanemasters errored on their part when they used another companies advertising lingo in their own ads.
How would you feel is someone else took your ideas and used them as their own? What if you came up with an idea at work and a coworker took it to the boss, posing it as his own idea? Would you just sit back and let it happen? NO. That is what has happened in this situation. Someone using someone elses ideas as their own.
There is an enormous legal difference between "advertising lingo" (your words) and trademarks and patent infringement. It appears that Lane #1 has used the phrase "big bang" in different context to describe it's product, the Super Carbide Bomb. LaneMasters actually calls their product Big Bang. Huge difference, especially since neither actually coined the phrase, credit a scientist with that one. Neither, to my knowledge, holds a trademark on the phrase. It is no different than if someone used advertising lingo to call their next ball the "evolution of bowling balls" and later a different manufacturer named their ball Evolution.
Stealing ideas happens all the time in the business world. There are literally thousands of examples of one company releasing a breakthrough product only to have their competitors soon release a similar competing product.
Unless Lane #1 can prove patent infringement (and if it has to do with cores, no one produces an exact diamond shape core, though some may be close enough to make reading the specific provisions of Lane #1's patent worthwhile) or trademark infringement they are wasting their money on lawyer's fees. Anyone can sue anyone else over anything. Baseless or not. If Lane #1 is truly sueing L/LM I hope it is with something a heck of a lot more substantial that the use of the words "Big Bang". Lane #1 does not have a ball called that, it was merely "advertising lingo". Now if Lane #1 had a ball called "Big Bang Theory" or something similar they may have an actual case, since they don't non-trademarked "advertising lingo" really doesn't mean a thing.
I'll give you a real world example. Honda is sueing Ford. Why? Because Acura has an SUV called the MDX, Lincoln (for 2007) is bringing out a brand new SUV called the MKX. Honda's claim is that they are too similar and their brand may suffer damages (i.e. loss of sales) from the consumer confusion. Ford, for their part, insists that they are/will market this vehicle with the pronunciation of "Mark X" not referring specifically to the initials the way that Honda/Acura does. Who will win, who knows? But here is a perfect example of how similarly named products could possibly cause damages to a company. Could consumers conceivably confuse MDX and MKX? The courts will decide.
Now, if someone says "Big Bang" in reference to bowling what would anyone think of? The Super Carbide Bomb? I seriously doubt it. I owned one, I've seen the advertising and even prior to the Lanemasters release I would never have associated the phrase "Big Bang" to either Lane #1 or the Super Carbide Bomb. If that is the basis of the court case, IMHO Lane #1 is wasting their time and money.
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Post by: Panic on July 26, 2006, 01:13:54 PM
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Used I assume? Don't really like used stuff, but what's the drilling?
Holy crap I noticed how bad we hijacked this thread! Sorry laura80, but those Lame1 people drive me insane.
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Edited on 7/21/2006 1:21 PM
No, its new, but there is another guy who is already interested in it. Ill let you know if he takes it or not.
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