Post by: Schwanstuker on March 20, 2012, 06:51:26 PM
I've seen an article about Lane Masters filling chapter 7, then the whole Lord Field thing started-up, who owns who, did Lane Masters/Legends shut down, re-organize or sell-out to Lordfield, what is the total scoop!
Anyone but the Cowboys!
Post by: tywithay on March 20, 2012, 09:42:19 PM
Lord Field is a completely seperate entity, located in Korea. They are not affiliated with Lane Masters in any way.
Post by: Schwanstuker on March 21, 2012, 01:32:56 AM
OK, is Genisis & Lordfield related since Lordfield is using Lanemasters cores?
Anyone but the Cowboys!
Post by: Pat Patterson on March 21, 2012, 03:20:27 AM
As "milorafferty" stated above, there is no affiliation between the two. Tony Martin of Lord Field used to be with Lane Masters , but he has stated on here and other bowling forums that there is no connection between the two companies.
Check out the forums on bowlingballexchange.com and bowlingchat.net for more info directly from Tony Martin.
Pat Patterson
Lord Field Staff
Pat Patterson
Post by: Gladiator1 on March 21, 2012, 07:30:42 PM
Did any of the stockholders benefit from the sale of the rights? Schwanstuker, yes they are bankrupt.
Tony Martin
Lord Field
www.lordfield.com
916-476-9542
Post by: milorafferty on March 21, 2012, 07:41:20 PM
Lol, you know the financial shape they were in, they owed everybody money! I don't know but it's doubtful. I did find it odd that J. Jones was listed as a creditor though.
Post by: Schwanstuker on March 22, 2012, 08:50:32 PM
So, Lordfeild stole the core's from Genisis/LaneMasters, too bad Sam Baca didn't patent them! The LM Garauteed core is in the LF Pin Hacker, is it not?
Anyone but the Cowboys!
Post by: charlest on March 23, 2012, 12:39:05 AM
Read it all AGAIN.
No one stole any cores from any one. Both companies get them from the same source.
Neither company makes all their own cores.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: Gladiator1 on March 23, 2012, 02:35:17 AM
Schwanstuker,
Public statements like that can be taken several ways. Accusations like that can be trouble. Sam didn't make the weight blocks. We got permission to use them from the original designer. Please refrain from anymore statements like that.
Tony Martin
Lord Field
www.lordfield.com
916-476-9542
Post by: Pat Patterson on March 23, 2012, 03:57:22 AM
Apparently, you did not check out the links I mentioned above on bowlingballexchange.com or bowlingchat.net about the origin of the weightblocks. Tony clearly states where they came from and how Lord Field came into using them. If you look closely at the weightblock below you will see that they are different enough as well as differences in RG/Diff.
These are the specs from the Guaranteed, and a picture of their weightblock:
RG=2.571
Diff=.039
Here is the Pin Hacker specs, including a picture of the weightblock:
RG=2.528
Diff=.043
Pat Patterson
Lord Field Staff
Post by: Schwanstuker on March 23, 2012, 02:16:27 PM
I was ready to walk away on this subject till Charlest just opened a new can of worms, so All knowing Charlest, who is the source of the Cores because I've read over & over through this and you claim there is 1 central source of cores? And to Pat & Tony, it was never made clear that an arangement was made for 1 company to barrow another companies cores so it would be easy to assume that Lordfeild would have taken possesion of LaneMasters. I don't travel to other Bowling websites so unless you supply a direct link, I'm not going to go search for it when anouncments are made on this site with spotty info, if All of the above info was placed on this site, I would not have jumped to any conclussions.
Anyone but the Cowboys!
Edited by Schwanstuker on 3/23/2012 at 12:21 PM
Post by: tywithay on March 23, 2012, 02:33:02 PM
I was told by someone that there was a gentleman in Japan that designed the cores and Lanemasters had permission to use some of them. I imagine Lord Field has the same permission, though I am not 100% sure.
Post by: Gladiator1 on March 23, 2012, 06:05:42 PM
I posted all the info months ago here. These weight blocks are originally from the gentleman who designed them for AZO. LM was AZO before they lost the name. LM kept the weight blocks. LF just went to the source for permission to use these beginning weight blocks they knew worked so they could learn how to make balls. Now I have developed new weight blocks and cores and those weight blocks will be out. Schwanstuker, there is way more involved than you will ever know. If I ever told the whole story everyone would be in shock. Just let this one rest.
Tony Martin
Lord Field
www.lordfield.com
916-476-9542
Post by: Gladiator1 on March 23, 2012, 06:10:49 PM
Tony Martin
Lord Field
www.lordfield.com
916-476-9542
Post by: charlest on March 23, 2012, 06:44:24 PM
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited by charlest on 3/23/2012 at 5:07 PM
Post by: Gladiator1 on March 23, 2012, 07:09:23 PM
Charlest,
We know you're only trying to help with input and I appreciate it. Thanks.
Tony Martin
Lord Field
www.lordfield.com
916-476-9542
Post by: Schwanstuker on March 23, 2012, 08:47:59 PM
Tony, thank you for explaining it to me, now when local bowler's come to me and ask, I will have the correct info to pass along. This subject is now closed as far as I'm concerned, I hope the next time there is a Lordfeild subject, it will be discussed in the Lordfeild Forum that's if the Staff on this site get around to dumping the DynoThane or Faball never used Forum's!
Anyone but the Cowboys!
Post by: cpo_bee on March 24, 2012, 07:41:32 AM
Tony,
The question on my mind is, Do the Lord Field balls hit like the LaneMasters ball do?
Post by: Gladiator1 on March 24, 2012, 09:23:03 PM
Don't be offended. I should slap myself on the hand as well for even being in this forum. Our balls store more energy with the covers and placement of the weight block. They also read the mids very well. Do they hit harder? Throw one and find out. I think you'll be surprised.
This is the last post I'll put in this forum I hope. Please contact me in the "other" category or by PM. Hopefully this site will find a way to create a Lord Field forum.
Tony Martin
Lord Field
www.lordfield.com
916-476-9542
Post by: BobOhio on June 01, 2012, 08:04:27 PM
I'm a huge user of their equipment for at least six-seven years.
I own at least one piece of all there equipment and have four or five NIB's.
I will never own another one because of their lack of ownership to their customers.
They were their own downfall because of one BIG must in business.
Communications....... I've e-mailed them for years trying to get equipment, and willing to pay top dollar, not one reply.
So Storm now has a new customer, and have purchased at least a dozen of their equipment in the last six weeks.
So Galen and the rest of that staff, good luck with the new owners, because I'm sure Korea is a much larger market then the USA.
Bob
Post by: bigbandito on July 31, 2012, 07:05:31 PM
Post by: Track_Fanatic on July 31, 2012, 08:15:38 PM
Post by: raiderh20boy on July 31, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
and still being made in the USA!(SO CAL!!)