Post by: Joe Jr on July 21, 2006, 06:17:07 PM
The Buzz
Big Bang
AP2
Kong
Guaranteed
Absolute Power
Straight Flush
World Class
Masterpiece
NS2
Big Kahuna
Satisfaxion
Yeah Baby
New Standard
The Arrow
Along with 6 upcoming releases;
World Class Reactive
Big Bang Reactive
The Black Pearl
Xcellence
The Sting
I wonder which, if any, they plan on discontinuing.
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House shots are killing this sport.
Post by: Lillen on July 22, 2006, 03:16:55 AM
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 22, 2006, 12:04:49 PM
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Don't forget the "Lanemasters Terminator"..
One of my pro shops has one now, but hasn't had time to drill it yet.
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Post by: Panic on July 22, 2006, 03:22:53 PM
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Post by: BowlerKidR on July 23, 2006, 10:33:44 AM
But then again u might be posting this because they are a small company, unlike ebonite and storm which are 2 of the big 4 companies.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on July 23, 2006, 10:50:33 AM
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Would that be AMD? You know who that is.....if so, guess come Tuesday, I will see it!
Yeah, that's who it is John. My World Class should be in Tues or Wed. Galen recommended a 2.5" to 2.75" pin for me and all she had was a 3.25"
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Brick
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 23, 2006, 10:52:24 AM
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They have a bunch, yea, but other companies have more. Ebonite has 30 if you count the Maxim's, storm has 32 on the current line up.
It's better to have a few and great quality, than to have a bunch and so-so quality.....
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Brick
Edited on 7/23/2006 10:49 AM
Post by: Joe Jr on July 23, 2006, 02:16:22 PM
Lanemasters is such a small company and pumping out that many equipment can't be good for business, I know it scared me off a little.
Regardless, I'm eagerly awaiting the 2 I have coming in the next few weeks.
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Formerly Richard Cranium
www.Brunswickbowling.com
www.Brunswickinsiders.com
Edited on 7/21/2006 1:21 PM
Post by: vagabond on July 23, 2006, 03:24:46 PM
I think its good that they expand their line up. They didn't really have many options for med-lighter oil volumes and shorter patterns.
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 23, 2006, 03:25:31 PM
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Lanemasters is such a small company and pumping out that many equipment can't be good for business, I know it scared me off a little.
I don't have the exact numbers, but off hand there are 2 companies and not one. Legends and Lanemasters. If you want to call it one company, thats fine, but be sure to combine Hammer with Ebonite and recount the balls. Legends and Lanemasters have put out something like 20-22 balls over 2 to 2 1/2 years or so. If you average that out, that is approximately 10-11 balls a year for two companies combined or an average of 5-6 balls per company per year whis is far-far less than Ebonite and others put out.
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Ebonite has 15 balls out not 30 you can't count the different colored plastics...
Sorry, balls are balls, so you have to count the colored ones also.
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Brick
Post by: Joe Jr on July 23, 2006, 03:33:48 PM
And Lanemasters/Legends is 1 company, they have 1 R&D team, 1 contact address, staff members can throw both. There Just split them up into 2 seperate divisions for some odd reason.
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Formerly Richard Cranium
www.Brunswickbowling.com
www.Brunswickinsiders.com
Edited on 7/21/2006 1:21 PM
Post by: charlest on July 23, 2006, 04:08:57 PM
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... And Lanemasters/Legends is 1 company, they have 1 R&D team, 1 contact address, staff members can throw both. There Just split them up into 2 seperate divisions for some odd reason.
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Formerly Richard Cranium
I'm inclined to agree. While the Legends were originally intended to be the premium line, I think that distinction has blurred a little bit over the past year or so. Oddly I have had slightly better and more consistent results from Legends balls, but not by a huge factor. Still I remain slightly that much prejudiced towards the Legends balls.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on July 23, 2006, 05:41:26 PM
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First, It's just plain stupid to count the different color equipment. The Maxim is 1 ball no matter how many freaking colors there are.
Twist it however you want Joe, but Legends/Lanemasters still has not putting out as many balls as Ebonite and several other companies over the past 2 years plus Legends/Lanemasters keep their ball line-ups longer than other companies, so it may be possible to look at their line-up at all the balls still on the market and say they have too many balls, pumping out too many balls and etc. whereas in reality, that isn't the case.
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Brick
Edited on 7/23/2006 5:43 PM
Post by: justink on July 23, 2006, 10:00:10 PM
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Post by: charlest on July 24, 2006, 06:30:33 AM
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Personally I love the balls that Legends / Lane Masters comes out with. The more the merrier. I would like a wide selection to choose form. Right now I am just having a hard time differentiating between the power of their balls. Other companies make their high hooking balls out to be their top end balls. But the way I look at Legends balls is that the same time, effort, and money go into their low hooking balls, as do their high hooking balls. They chince on nothing and that is what has separated them from the pack for me. Enjoy
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We all like to have a wdie selection, but the problem, I believe, becomes one of sales. Most sales for any company comes from Pro Shops. Lanemasters being a smaller company can have a hard time getting a "foot in the door", so to speak. When a Lanemasters representative comes to a pro shop to explain their line-up or even if the distributor gets a pro shop a few balls at a low cost to get on thr pro shops bbowling ball display, if the pro shop guys do not know the line up well to give bowlers a chance to use these new balls, the grass roots will not and cannot support further growth.
Having such a long list of balls from such a small company can easily confuse even the sharpest bowling mind, in which Brunswick, Columbia, Ebonite, etc. already safely reside. Remember that few bowlers are actually on the internet, learnign and discovering about these great new balls. Maybe 95% or more get their info from the pro shop guys and drillers. Word of mouth always helps, but people rely on the pro shop or seeing good high average bowlers use their balls often and readily.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 24, 2006, 11:41:10 AM
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We all like to have a wdie selection, but the problem, I believe, becomes one of sales. Most sales for any company comes from Pro Shops. Lanemasters being a smaller company can have a hard time getting a "foot in the door", so to speak. When a Lanemasters representative comes to a pro shop to explain their line-up or even if the distributor gets a pro shop a few balls at a low cost to get on thr pro shops bbowling ball display, if the pro shop guys do not know the line up well to give bowlers a chance to use these new balls, the grass roots will not and cannot support further growth.
Having such a long list of balls from such a small company can easily confuse even the sharpest bowling mind, in which Brunswick, Columbia, Ebonite, etc. already safely reside. Remember that few bowlers are actually on the internet, learnign and discovering about these great new balls. Maybe 95% or more get their info from the pro shop guys and drillers. Word of mouth always helps, but people rely on the pro shop or seeing good high average bowlers use their balls often and readily.
I will have to agree with Charlest all the way on what he says here. There are several bowling houses within 30-45 minutes of where I live and I see exactly what Charlest has said here. Although there may be another or so, I see only one that is active in selling/promoting L/LM balls and of coarse that one is a staff member.
Even here, the success to get people to try these balls is slow. I am an excellent example of that. I have resisted trying these balls since the day the staff member's pro shop started carring them. Sales have been slow on them to others, but in watching the people that did have the courage to try them (some are on my teams) all I can say is "WOW". The hit, carry, pin mix, flying scouts, etc. is unbelieveable. I could no longer contain myself and I've had to make myself "give in" and try one of these balls.
My first one (World Class Particle for synthetic lanes) is supposed to arrive at the pro shop this week and if I have success with it, my next ball will be the World Class Reactive at the suggestion of Galen, for the wood lanes.
To sum it up, it is tough for any new company to "get their foot in the door", even if they have a top notch quality product. As you can see from what I have written here, I am an example of getting people to try/use these balls. I have resisted trying them until now. Where I bowl, others success with these balls has caught my attention and if they work well for me, my success will catch others attention. In time it will grow and as success spreads, I think business will grow much faster for L/LM balls.
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Brick
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 24, 2006, 11:45:07 AM
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My guess is that the Kong, Big Kahuna, Yeah Baby, Satisfaxion, and Guaranteed will all be goners. The AP and AP2 might be gone as well.
There will be bowlers that bowl where I bowl that will cry if they discontinue the Yeah Baby and Satisfaction.
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Brick
Post by: sammy the sage on July 24, 2006, 06:33:50 PM
Post by: charlest on July 24, 2006, 07:08:51 PM
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just a matter of greed...
hunh?
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on July 24, 2006, 07:24:35 PM
I was skeptical at first, but I was also skeptical of Lane 1....so there you go
No idea what my point was lol.
Post by: Gonz on July 24, 2006, 09:29:26 PM
As long as ball junkies like us continue to anxiously await the latest and greatest same reaction that we already own, the over realease from all manufacturers will never stop. Somebody help us! Is there a ball counseler in the house!!
Gonz
Post by: Lillen on July 25, 2006, 05:49:23 AM