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Equipment Boards => Lord Field => Topic started by: bigbandito on May 29, 2014, 07:15:30 PM
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when will it be approved ?
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I don't think even the man knows yet....
Edit:
I stand corrected...I saw it on the LordField.com site.... 8)
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I believe it was a mixup. I dont know what happened, but my guess would be that when whoever updates the site went to add the Talent, the Bloody Cross was put there instead. It has since been corrected.
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I believe that they are taking their naming convention a bit too far...
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+1.... too far...
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It's a Korean brand, but In japan if I remember, it's a vampire character...half demon and half angel.
A female character that can kick but....
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How is bloody cross taking it too far?
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It is a Korean character, yes.
Bloody Cross would probably bring to mind Jesus Christ in Christian America. This could turn into a huge religious debate, but I, for one, disapprove of the name.
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Completely agree with Doom. Definitely had a religious connotation to me, and is a poor choice of name. Free speech, they have their right to name it that way for sure, but I'm not a fan of the name choice.
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Completely agree with Doom. Definitely had a religious connotation to me, and is a poor choice of name. Free speech, they have their right to name it that way for sure, but I'm not a fan of the name choice.
Odd as the owner of Lord Field in Korea is, as far as I have heard, an extreme Christian. Not sure how the connotation of the word "bloody cross" varies between the Christians in America and the Christians in Korea.
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My point is simply this, if it is the term, or what it brings to mind for you and you are Christian it seems silly for it to bother you. If you are a different religion and feel it favors Christianity then I could better see the point.
So many of the Christian churches depict the cross with an Image of Jesus on it being crucified. The term itself of "Bloody Cross" seems tame compared to the image of someone being hammered to a cross and murdered.
Even extremely popular Christian song lyrics refer to it
The old rugged cross
"In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine,
A wondrous beauty I see,
For ’twas on that old cross Jesus suffered and died,
To pardon and sanctify me."
Like I said the name seems tame compare to what we see from the religious sector itself.
With out seeing the actual ball it is also a lot of speculation. People can be offended by anything and there is no fixing that.
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Seems obvious to me guys, but you have the right to your opinion, no matter how idiotic I personally think it is. But that's my right too, ok with you? Can't understand the double standards today, but I'll have nothing else to say on it.
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Id like to think that all the folks who dont like that name also have a problem with DV8's Hell Raiser? Or is that one OK?
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Id like to think that all the folks who dont like that name also have a problem with DV8's Hell Raiser? Or is that one OK?
how about evil siege, diablo, or dv8 zombie spare ball?
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Melee Cross too?
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Ok, guys, cut it out. It's not funny. Now you're harassing someone because of their religious beliefs.
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Zombies = fictional characters (and mighty cool, I might add). Hell raiser could be perceived a couple different different ways. No problem with the Melee Cross, Double Cross core in the Bountys, or crosshatch.
I do see you guys reaching. I stated my stance, and what I believe. You don't have to agree with it.
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Everyone has their opinions and beliefs.
The simpler question I ask earlier and will again is: What about the name is controversial or taking it too far?
Maybe something different to everyone. Just a question out of curiosity and nothing more.
Will seeing the actual ball and logo change your opinion?
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I wasn't trying to insult or devalue anyone's belief, just asking a question too.
If anyone got offended, my bad. I'm a man of faith, just not as strong as many of you...
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It's one of those terms, that may be cool in korea, because there is a comic book or anime(in japan?). But if the owner is that far out of the loop of the western market, and the 'buyers beliefs'...then he shouldn't be selling balls in the western world, or at least naming them.
Maybe he should ask his million and one staffers, "do you think this will offend anyone?" I mean I have a brain and I would have done so.
That would be like naming a ball, something to do with Lee Harvey Oswald and coming out with it right after jfk's assassination. Or coming out with a slavery themed ball. shame on LF, they won't sell and that's not my fault, have fun with you're new negative connotations, LF.
Got some real intellectual people naming these balls...sheesh. BTW, I am not offended, although I am a Christian, I feel (being a business student) that this a bad business move. It will create buzz, but negative buzz.
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It's one of those terms, that may be cool in korea, because there is a comic book or anime(in japan?). But if the owner is that far out of the loop of the western market, and the 'buyers beliefs'...then he shouldn't be selling balls in the western world, or at least naming them.
Maybe he should ask his million and one staffers, "do you think this will offend anyone?" I mean I have a brain and I would have done so.
That would be like naming a ball, something to do with Lee Harvey Oswald and coming out with it right after jfk's assassination. Or coming out with a slavery themed ball. shame on LF, they won't sell and that's not my fault, have fun with you're new negative connotations, LF.
Got some real intellectual people naming these balls...sheesh. BTW, I am not offended, although I am a Christian, I feel (being a business student) that this a bad business move. It will create buzz, but negative buzz.
+1
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The BC hasn't crossed the pacific ocean and may never will. It's not even on the site...so we shouldn't even waste our time lol...
The only time this ball makes it over in the next 3 weeks, is when I have time to bring one back. Or my buddies bring one to me.....
(a couple of you have asked me to bring balls back [megabyte and IQ300], sorry I'm traveling light. not even sure these are released.)
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Everyone has their opinions and beliefs.
The simpler question I ask earlier and will again is: What about the name is controversial or taking it too far?
Maybe something different to everyone. Just a question out of curiosity and nothing more.
Will seeing the actual ball and logo change your opinion?
The term cross has different meanings. Add the word bloody to it, it becomes something else. Something sacred (to me, anyways). Pretty sure you couldn't sell a ball named the hamburger in India.
Don't care about the logo or the ball. The name kills it. I mean, I haven't said anything about their naming convention, but do you know how many times I got tricked into clicking on a post on the main page because someone wanted to know about the Bad news, and I thought it was actual bad news? :P
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Dang, all this chatter about an overseas ball. Chill out people. If it ends up stateside, nobodys forcing you to buy it. We dont even know if this ball actually exists do we? I havent seen an image.
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It does. It is on youtube. Hot pink with a white cross that looks like a tattoo you see commonly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DisJah1LcOY
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OH OH.........bark at the moon.....
the boat is ready for sail, it's going to get wet.
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it's on the fb page.....
"Get ready for next season with this new release from Lord Field Bowling. The "Bloody Cross" should be available around the middle of July and combines the Turbine core from the "Get Some" with a new cover stock."
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hammer's add....
http://d1p268mz1b2hyf.cloudfront.net/res/uploads/products/files/HMR_Absolut_Flip_SS_PRT_1.pdf
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They should have released it around easter :)
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They should have released it around easter :)
You get a win for today
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Who cares? It's just a name. If your beliefs can't stand up to an obscure bowling ball company's product, then I suggest you reevaluate your beliefs.
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I don't remember who said it, but it went like this.....
"Stand up to what you believe in, even when you're standing alone."
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+1 coach
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I jumped back in real quickly since I saw the topic was still in the last 10. Wild to see people so scared of people still having a belief. Sad comment on society, and liberals in general. Diversity is fine, as long as everyone agrees with you, right? billions of years of existence, billions of planets, you're the top of the food chain... Man, that doesn't even make sense....
Yup, I believe, proudly... I'm allowed...
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My beliefs can stand up to anything. I find it in poor taste.
Also, this is probably the most that anyone has talked about a Lord Field ball ever! They should send me a free one!
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The ball itself looks j-pop lol.
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+2 coach!