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dR3w

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Definition of Sport League
« on: May 23, 2014, 11:25:57 AM »
I have a quick question for anyone in the know.  This year our Thursday night league used the Kegel Challenge shots.  I was told by one of the workers at the Alley, that next year we won't be able to do that again, unless we declare ourselves a Sport League.  (apparently this was mandated from AMF/Bowlmor Management.  Of course you never know about such things). 

My contention is that I thought the definition of a sport shot was a ratio of less than 3 to 1.  The Kegel Challenge shots are in the range of about 4 to 1 (more or less). 

Is there a clear definition here?  Or can you declare any shot a sport shot and pay the extra money required to sanction it as a sport league?

 

Jorge300

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Re: Definition of Sport League
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2014, 10:07:55 AM »
Jorge,

I was not complaining about my teammate being rerated.  The league put out a  sport pattern and to be fair he should be rerated.  He only bowls one night a week and the only tournament he bowls in is our local city tournament.  The league was sanctioned, but not sport certified.  Therefore honor score were not recorded as sport honor scores. 

CPA,
      My response was based on your "worst of both worlds" comment. It made it sound like you weren't agreeing with your teammate being rerated. I was glad to hear that your association is doing that, as it is the right thing to do. Some, even though they are fully aware the averages are done on non-THS conditions, will not rerate unless it is a certified Sports league. I can see their thinking, like someone mentioned on here, it's the same as people bowling in noteriously harder scoring houses to lower their averages. You can't really rerate them even though you know the average isn't indicative of their true "THS potential". Most tournaments have a rule that people can be rerated for any reason, but most tournament runners won't do it because it could negatively effect turnout going forward. So you wind uo between a rock and a hard place. My post wasn't meant to take a shot at you or your teammate, just interpreting your comment, and obviously I got it wrong. :)
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Re: Definition of Sport League
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2014, 04:35:27 PM »
Sport patterns haven't gotten easier as much as bowlers have adjusted to their environment.  The patterns have gotten longer which has an impact I will explain below  Also, the modern balls are able to create tracks in the oil patterns very effectively, much the way rubber balls did 50 years ago on lacquer.  The difference is that the modern balls have so much surface friction on the dry, that carry is immensely better than many years ago.  A lot of the long sport patterns of today remind me very much of tournaments on lacquer in the late 60's. 

Even the pros today have changed their strategies over just a few years ago as a result of the much longer patterns that are becoming common.  You don't see heavy handed guys going right to 4th arrow and blowing a hole in the pattern right out of the box the way they did for several years.  Even guys like Rash start out going up 10 board with lots of end over end revs.  This effectively sets up the shot better for everyone